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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread ***(700 new cases 9/28) 

Post#61 » by 720 » Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:53 pm

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720 wrote:You know what's funny, in our internal memos before school started they were saying how many teachers that got let go or transferred because of the reduced school populations were being moved over to online. So many of us were under the impression it would be like how it was back in June but at a small scale.

But around the final week of summer break many parents opted into distance learning last minute. Thousands we're talking, so it really shocked the system (at least that's what our school board told us through email).


Many seniored teachers also decided to retire instead of going back. There are less to go around.

This distance learning isn't that great. Less interaction with the teacher and classmates which are pooled. So you can 10 kids in one class all from different schools. And if the kid is struggling in a particular class and another finds it a joke, they both get robbed of the attention they need. Ford could've done a better job in putting together a plan. He wants this to work, part of his campaign was to have students take courses from home to save money. He was all about cost cutting and it came back to bite him - from teachers, teaching assistants to network infrastructure.


What I wonder about is there used to be a surplus of graduating new teachers unable to find work. I guess that isn't the reality anymore.

There is still a surplus of teaching graduates ranging in the thousands from all those years where the teaching program was only one year. But the past few years now it has become a 2 year program so the number has gotten smaller.

Many people still struggle to get hired by boards. Normally hiring season is during late winter to early summer but this year with COVID I think the process has slowed down. Just my guess.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread ***(700 new cases 9/28) 

Post#62 » by Kingsway_fan » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:09 pm

All fearmongering bs... first mistakes were watching cbc or paying attention to any Canadian politician.

Second... deaths statistically zero... what 2 covid deaths today in a population over 38 million. Are you fkin serious???

You have a higher likelyhood of dying from double lightening strike than covid....

Stockholm syndrome mentality is mind boggling, lol

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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread ***(700 new cases 9/28) 

Post#63 » by Ackshun » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:16 pm

Brinbe wrote:I hate every single one of these bougie ass 20 somethings going out to bars and house parties and sht, acting like this is no big deal. Pisses me off.

And Ford is a coward idiot reactive to everything until it's already too late, again!


I run a restaurant in the province here. I can't tell you how many issues I have implementing the mask rule, because they are medically exempt.

All 30- something year old dudes. Every single one.

A few have written in about me, and I've have to take it on chin because "hospitality first" apparently.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread ***(700 new cases 9/28) 

Post#64 » by KL78192020 » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:22 pm

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720 wrote:I am a substitute teacher and I haven't gone back to school this year to supply because of this worry. With Cerb ending this month I have no choice really. I know it can't hurt me but my parents are in their 50s and I live in a condo and don't want to spread it to my neighbors.

But I at the same time I have bills and loans to pay so work is necessary, so I'll just risk it and go starting october.

Isn't there a shortage of teachers for remote learning? I'm sure they are still hiring?


depends on the school board, but yea TDSB was hiring. Should look into getting an online LTO and getting of the supply list.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread ***(700 new cases 9/28) 

Post#65 » by Brinbe » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:27 pm

Ackshun wrote:
Brinbe wrote:I hate every single one of these bougie ass 20 somethings going out to bars and house parties and sht, acting like this is no big deal. Pisses me off.

And Ford is a coward idiot reactive to everything until it's already too late, again!


I run a restaurant in the province here. I can't tell you how many issues I have implementing the mask rule, because they are medically exempt.

All 30- something year old dudes. Every single one.

A few have written in about me, and I've have to take it on chin because "hospitality first" apparently.

Yep, I see it at work and on the TTC every day and we can't do anything about it.

People are just lazy, selfish and can't deal with a tiny bit of inconvenience, even if it goes towards the overall good of everyone.

Looks like we have a few in here too, unfortunately.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread ***(700 new cases 9/28) 

Post#66 » by NBA Sheady » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:40 pm

720 wrote:I am a substitute teacher and I haven't gone back to school this year to supply because of this worry. With Cerb ending this month I have no choice really. I know it can't hurt me but my parents are in their 50s and I live in a condo and don't want to spread it to my neighbors.

But at the same time I have bills and loans to pay so work is necessary, so I'll just risk it and go starting october.


WHAT?!?!?!?

There are MANY long term effects of this disease.

Here is a study from Thomas Jefferson U about young healthy people having strokes:
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/06/200604095600.htm
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread ***(700 new cases 9/28) 

Post#67 » by NBA Sheady » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:46 pm

Kingsway_fan wrote:All fearmongering bs... first mistakes were watching cbc or paying attention to any Canadian politician.

Second... deaths statistically zero... what 2 covid deaths today in a population over 38 million. Are you fkin serious???

You have a higher likelyhood of dying from double lightening strike than covid....

Stockholm syndrome mentality is mind boggling, lol

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Whenever someone focusses solely on deaths I wonder if they are unaware of the litany of long-term effects of this disease.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread ***(700 new cases 9/28) 

Post#68 » by Crowned » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:52 pm

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KL78192020 wrote:its amazing with all the doom and gloom its crazy how high housing prices are. I know interest rates are low but its nuts! housing sector never fails.


I've been waiting for the prices to falter. There MUST be a lot of foreign investment keeping the prices where they are. Everyone I know is scared to do anything drastic until normalcy returns.


I’m currently having a house built, scheduled to be completed in November. It’s been delayed about a year so far, but just monitoring prices and activity in the community over the last 2 months...houses are sold within a few days. There was a brief slowdown when this all went down...but the market is on fire right now.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread ***(700 new cases 9/28) 

Post#69 » by Crowned » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:58 pm

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Brinbe wrote:I hate every single one of these bougie ass 20 somethings going out to bars and house parties and sht, acting like this is no big deal. Pisses me off.

And Ford is a coward idiot reactive to everything until it's already too late, again!


I run a restaurant in the province here. I can't tell you how many issues I have implementing the mask rule, because they are medically exempt.

All 30- something year old dudes. Every single one.

A few have written in about me, and I've have to take it on chin because "hospitality first" apparently.


I run a consulting agency in the space, and yes, seems to be one of the common issues right now. Far too many people are not either distancing or following guidelines in restaurants. Some enter with masks, some don’t. Some people remove them them but don’t wear them when exiting or using restrooms, etc. I worked with over a dozen companies and independents last week alone on establishing policies with patrons that aren’t following guidelines.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread ***(700 new cases 9/28) 

Post#70 » by Tor_Raps » Mon Sep 28, 2020 8:13 pm

Crowned wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:
KL78192020 wrote:its amazing with all the doom and gloom its crazy how high housing prices are. I know interest rates are low but its nuts! housing sector never fails.


I've been waiting for the prices to falter. There MUST be a lot of foreign investment keeping the prices where they are. Everyone I know is scared to do anything drastic until normalcy returns.


I’m currently having a house built, scheduled to be completed in November. It’s been delayed about a year so far, but just monitoring prices and activity in the community over the last 2 months...houses are sold within a few days. There was a brief slowdown when this all went down...but the market is on fire right now.


Thats the alarming part. How does the housing market "go on fire" with so many losing their jobs and with the future outlook still uncertain?

Government is cutting CERB checks now so it should make things worse. Things will have to get worse before they get better again.

That's why I'm a big believer that there's increased foreign investment happening right now to keep the real estate market stable.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread ***(700 new cases 9/28) 

Post#71 » by Mikistan » Mon Sep 28, 2020 8:15 pm

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720 wrote:You got it preordered?


Yessir, as soon as it was available.

We were having some electrical work done back in April-ish and I forgot to unplug my Xbox One. I think it must've short circuited or something, so I've been gameless for a long time.

I was mostly only playing Cod, 2K19 and Fifa, so might not even pick up any of the launch titles until the new Cod comes out.

Nice, I preordered it from bestbuy very late, like a couple hours after preorders were open. Got very lucky.

Same for me! Forgot the preorders opened and luckily best buy was having issues refreshed randomly and got one haha
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread ***(700 new cases 9/28) 

Post#72 » by hsb » Mon Sep 28, 2020 8:18 pm

MadDogSHWA wrote:
Kingsway_fan wrote:All fearmongering bs... first mistakes were watching cbc or paying attention to any Canadian politician.

Second... deaths statistically zero... what 2 covid deaths today in a population over 38 million. Are you fkin serious???

You have a higher likelyhood of dying from double lightening strike than covid....

Stockholm syndrome mentality is mind boggling, lol

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Whenever someone focusses solely on deaths I wonder if they are unaware of the litany of long-term effects of this disease.


Hopefully, the current main iteration of the virus is less virulent than in the past (for both short and long-term symptoms).
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread ***(700 new cases 9/28) 

Post#73 » by Westside Gunn » Mon Sep 28, 2020 8:21 pm

I personally observed people stopped giving a shiet. Went for a drive and there was a lineup of cars on the street to get into a park, indicating that the parking lot was full. Outdoor basketball courts in schools have been FILLED with people as soon as the cities put the nets back on.

Rec league hockey is operating. Employers are bringing people back in the office. And Brampton continues to party.

Thankfully, I don't know anyone personally that has sent their kids to school, but I still see kids going to school. People need to stop treating school like daycare.

But we did see all of this coming didn't we?

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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread ***(700 new cases 9/28) 

Post#74 » by ruckus » Mon Sep 28, 2020 8:29 pm

Tor_Raps wrote:
Crowned wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:
I've been waiting for the prices to falter. There MUST be a lot of foreign investment keeping the prices where they are. Everyone I know is scared to do anything drastic until normalcy returns.


I’m currently having a house built, scheduled to be completed in November. It’s been delayed about a year so far, but just monitoring prices and activity in the community over the last 2 months...houses are sold within a few days. There was a brief slowdown when this all went down...but the market is on fire right now.


Thats the alarming part. How does the housing market "go on fire" with so many losing their jobs and with the future outlook still uncertain?

Government is cutting CERB checks now so it should make things worse. Things will have to get worse before they get better again.

That's why I'm a big believer that there's increased foreign investment happening right now to keep the real estate market stable.


Let's be honest here, the people buying houses aren't the same people losing their jobs. If anything, the stay at home orders allowed those people who were able to work from home to save some money and realize just how frivolous they were. Especially the downtowners that were renting. For their rent money, they could buy a house in Oshawa or Hamilton and commute is no longer an issue due to remote working.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread ***(700 new cases 9/28) 

Post#75 » by Raps in 4 » Mon Sep 28, 2020 8:31 pm

MadDogSHWA wrote:
Kingsway_fan wrote:All fearmongering bs... first mistakes were watching cbc or paying attention to any Canadian politician.

Second... deaths statistically zero... what 2 covid deaths today in a population over 38 million. Are you fkin serious???

You have a higher likelyhood of dying from double lightening strike than covid....

Stockholm syndrome mentality is mind boggling, lol

Been traveling throughout Europe all summer.. thanks Air Canad been awesome...


Whenever someone focusses solely on deaths I wonder if they are unaware of the litany of long-term effects of this disease.


I have a family friend (late 40s) who was an anti-masker (regularly went out to protest) and believed the virus was a government conspiracy. She caught Covid and spent a month in the hospital. She is now a believer. The funny thing is, even after all this, her sisters accused her of making up the experience. :lol:

Nothing short of catching the virus themselves will get some of the conspiracy theorists to take this seriously. I've seen people call footage of hospital wards full of intubated patients hoaxes.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread ***(700 new cases 9/28) 

Post#76 » by Danny1616 » Mon Sep 28, 2020 8:35 pm

Kingsway_fan wrote:All fearmongering bs... first mistakes were watching cbc or paying attention to any Canadian politician.

Second... deaths statistically zero... what 2 covid deaths today in a population over 38 million. Are you fkin serious???

You have a higher likelyhood of dying from double lightening strike than covid....

Stockholm syndrome mentality is mind boggling, lol

Been traveling throughout Europe all summer.. thanks Air Canad been awesome...


Aren't 210,000 Americans dead from Covid-19?

Didn't something like 40,000 Italians die in a 2 month span due to Covid-19?

Didn't something like 50,000 people from the UK die in a 3 month span due to Covid-19?

We can have debates over the best strategy to combat the virus, but to say it's overblown is just plain ignorant.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread 

Post#77 » by Inevitable » Mon Sep 28, 2020 8:59 pm

MadDogSHWA wrote:
canz55 wrote:The government of Ontario is counting on people voluntarily getting tested so they can enact more draconian measures and policies that will choke the little freedoms we have left.


Please explain why they would want to do this.


Hilarious seeing libertarians say this stuff about a right wing government which has done nothing but try to slash the size of government for years. Also how Ford calls them psychos and yet they continue to vote and support him regardless :lol:
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread ***(700 new cases 9/28) 

Post#78 » by Ackshun » Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:10 pm

Brinbe wrote:
Ackshun wrote:
Brinbe wrote:I hate every single one of these bougie ass 20 somethings going out to bars and house parties and sht, acting like this is no big deal. Pisses me off.

And Ford is a coward idiot reactive to everything until it's already too late, again!


I run a restaurant in the province here. I can't tell you how many issues I have implementing the mask rule, because they are medically exempt.

All 30- something year old dudes. Every single one.

A few have written in about me, and I've have to take it on chin because "hospitality first" apparently.

Yep, I see it at work and on the TTC every day and we can't do anything about it.

People are just lazy, selfish and can't deal with a tiny bit of inconvenience, even if it goes towards the overall good of everyone.

Looks like we have a few in here too, unfortunately.


Did your employer tell you that you can't even bring it up?

The ones I had to deal with were clearly conspiracy theorists, using the medical condition as an excuse I am guessing. Same ones popping out for a smoke, have a condition that prevents that from masking up.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread 

Post#79 » by noname2797 » Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:13 pm

canz55 wrote:This is a PSA for people.

Let me start by saying I would never tell anyone what to do - I have no moral authority or expertise. This is merely a suggestion that my wife and her coworkers share (she and her colleagues are all nurses in Ontario).

If you feel unwell and are curious about whether or not you have contracted COVID, please STAY HOME! DO NOT GET TESTED!

The only reason you or a loved one should ever think about walking into your local clinic or an emergency room or an assessment center is because you or a family member are so ill to the point having your respiratory system comprised leading to hospitalization.

The government of Ontario is counting on people voluntarily getting tested so they can enact more draconian measures and policies that will choke the little freedoms we have left. More testing does not help anything. If you're under the age of 50 you have an 8 percent chance of being hospitalized.

If you want to be tested in lue of a family event of 10 people or less (thanksgiving for example) and don't want to infect family members who are vulnerable people potentially, that makes total sense. But if you feel like **** and have COVID systems - don't **** go to the Thanksgiving ANYWAYS!

I had a bad cold this week (upper respiratory) and opted out of some fun social events I would have otherwise loved to have attended. I'm 99% sure I didn't/don't have COVID but I'm **** damn sure I'm not going to line up at an assessment centre so I can give the government information that I frankly don't have time to give, nor do I want to.

This post should be flagged. This guy is literally a part of the problem we're creating. Fear-mongering over 'draconian' measures is so insane. What measures has the Ontario government put out that can be considered draconian? Shutting down bars is draconian? Idiot. This is a public health issue. We can't rely on people doing the right thing. All it takes is one person not doing the right thing to break down the whole system.

Testing is important to understand how far COVID-19 has spread and for Contact Tracers to let people around you know that you were infected so they can go get tested. It's about tracing the goddamn disease.

You sound like a Trumpian rat. These aren't draconian measures... We're literally just trying to make sure everyone can be healthy during these times.




TLDR: Go get tested. It's important to know how far the COVID has spread and what actions we need to take further.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread ***(700 new cases 9/28) 

Post#80 » by noname2797 » Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:18 pm

Kingsway_fan wrote:All fearmongering bs... first mistakes were watching cbc or paying attention to any Canadian politician.

Second... deaths statistically zero... what 2 covid deaths today in a population over 38 million. Are you fkin serious???

You have a higher likelyhood of dying from double lightening strike than covid....

Stockholm syndrome mentality is mind boggling, lol

Been traveling throughout Europe all summer.. thanks Air Canad been awesome...

I think you need to take a step back and really read about hospital capacity and our ability to save people's lives. Remember the 'flatten the curve' motto back in April? Our ability to keep the death rate low is thanks in part because spread is a lot lower.

In addition, I think you should take a look at excess deaths. Go google deaths in 2019 and deaths in 2020. It's staggering how much of a difference COVID makes.

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