Trade Ideas Thread

[itrsteve]

Dont we need to take on some more salary in a Gordon/Turner trade?

Oh yeah for sure, it couldn’t be straight up.

The problem for them is that Dipo and Turner want out, so they lose a ton of leverage. So you could make a salary match argument even if there’s a talent loss.

We could make a very Indiana-centric offer with Hayward, Langford and Butler (the locals should eat it up). Throw on Thies and a bunch of picks and there’s a compelling trade for Indiana to ship both then pick up Gordon Retireward for peanuts at the end of next season.

I didnt know Turner actually wanted out, where did you read this?

Good catch, my mistake. I was speed reading through all of today’s news at once and thought he was lumped into the dissatisfaction camp.

[Darthlukey]

Oh yeah for sure, it couldn’t be straight up.

The problem for them is that Dipo and Turner want out, so they lose a ton of leverage. So you could make a salary match argument even if there’s a talent loss.

We could make a very Indiana-centric offer with Hayward, Langford and Butler (the locals should eat it up). Throw on Thies and a bunch of picks and there’s a compelling trade for Indiana to ship both then pick up Gordon Retireward for peanuts at the end of next season.

I didnt know Turner actually wanted out, where did you read this?

Good catch, my mistake. I was speed reading through all of today’s news at once and thought he was lumped into the dissatisfaction camp.

You got my hopes up and everything!

[PierceFan4ever]

I definitely believe the Celtics need to make a big move not just a minor move. I believe Giannis will leave the Bucks after next summer (unless they win a championship) and then will build the next superteam that we may not be able to beat. There is no superteam like the Warriors out there. The Lakers are the best currently with 2 superstars and a bunch of role players. I don’t know what the right move should be but if the opportunity is there to move on from any or all of Hayward, Kemba, and even Smart then the Celtics have to go for it. Can’t keep doing the waiting game forever with the rise of Tatum and Brown now.

[SmartWentCrazy]

I am sick of Athletes under contract demanding trades. Small market teams lose.

I live in Indy and last week it was reported Hayward bought a 3 million dollar house in Indy suburb last summer.

He and his wife are from here, but he never had a home away from his team..... even in Indy.

When in Utah he had SLC home and San Diego vacation home.

Makes you go hmmmmm

Said this a few weeks ago— his family moving back to Indy raised my eyebrows.

I would strongly consider doing 14/Hayward for Turner. Its an overpay, but he’s locked up long term and has chemistry with the main guys.

Turner & McDermott please

Unfortunately, Turner and Kemba’s former college teammate works as well...

[SmartWentCrazy]

Also, Dipo **** sucks. Dude tore his quad tendon, an injury that historically was as serious as the achilles. He had a terrible year and I dont want him near our team. Zero chance that dude accepts a 3rd/4th option role.

[Asian Celtic]

You can always bring in a 3rd team to send Dipo too. DAL might make sense:

BOS: Turner, THJ for Hayward, Poirier, 26
IND: Hayward, 18, 26, 31, DAL '22 2nd for Dipo, Turner
DAL: Dipo, Poirier for THJ, 18, 31, future 2nd.

Is it possible to swap THJ for seth curry?

[Floody100]

Considering Hayward was born in Indy, has family & a house their I think we could strike a deal with Indy & I don’t think Hayward would be too mad about it.
I say this because while I’m sure he gets along with all of the players he isn’t really close to any of them. You only have to watch this to see that this is pretty evident.

Watch on YouTube

I think we’d be in poll position to strike a deal with Indy too. Their a small market team that doesn’t really attract all-star caliber players, Hayward would definitely resign with them. If they lose Dipo they’ll need a 18-20 PPG scorer who can playmake as well, Hayward fits that description to a tee.

My question is do we try go for Dipo or Turner ?
My preference would be Turner as he fits our team structure & we’re in need for a Centre like him. Could probably bring a player like McDermott over here too.

[Darthlukey]

Also, Dipo **** sucks. Dude tore his quad tendon, an injury that historically was as serious as the achilles. He had a terrible year and I dont want him near our team. Zero chance that dude accepts a 3rd/4th option role.

Im kinda in the same mindset here. Liked him as a player pre-injury, but that was a lifetime ago

[Darthlukey]

Considering Hayward was born in Indy, has family & a house their I think we could strike a deal with Indy & I don’t think Hayward would be too mad about it.
I say this because while I’m sure he gets along with all of the players he isn’t really close to any of them. You only have to watch this to see that this is pretty evident.

Watch on YouTube

I think we’d be in poll position to strike a deal with Indy too. Their a small market team that doesn’t really attract all-star caliber players, Hayward would definitely resign with them. If they lose Dipo they’ll need a 18-20 PPG scorer who can playmake as well, Hayward fits that description to a tee.

My question is do we try go for Dipo or Turner ?
My preference would be Turner as he fits our team structure & we’re in need for a Centre like him. Could probably bring a player like McDermott over here too.

Turner for sure. Fits a need and isnt coming off a major knee injury (though he isnt the most reliable option either hence why I want to keep Theis)

[Fencer reregistered]

A Hayward/Turner trade would go even further toward recreating a stunningly unsuccessful Team USA.

That said, the non-success came mainly when Tatum was injured.

[darylbe]

Jared Weiss of The Athletic speculated Oladipo could be part of Hayward deal. Oladipo and Turner for Hayward, Theis, Langford and Ainge's beloved stockpile of picks would be pretty nice.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2911029-victor-oladipo-trade-rumors-pacers-star-looking-to-move-on-from-indiana

Im not trading all 3 picks for that.

But im down.

The hell? You make that trade 10 out of 10 times and drive them all to Logan. Stop with the ridiculous prospect love. I feel like this board has stockholm syndrome when it comes to draft picks

na man, its just at danny ainge couldnt hit a pick outside of top 5 if his life depended on it. For the foreseeable future, unless there is a change in talent evaluators or something, you're right, the picks he drafts will be absolute ****.

[Fencer reregistered]

Im not trading all 3 picks for that.

But im down.

The hell? You make that trade 10 out of 10 times and drive them all to Logan. Stop with the ridiculous prospect love. I feel like this board has stockholm syndrome when it comes to draft picks

na man, its just at danny ainge couldnt hit a pick outside of top 5 if his life depended on it. For the foreseeable future, unless there is a change in talent evaluators or something, you're right, the picks he drafts will be absolute ****.

When exactly do you think he lost the abilities that led him to draft Jefferson, Perkins, Allen, Rondo, Bradley, Powe, and Smart?

[MagicBagley18]

Also, Dipo **** sucks. Dude tore his quad tendon, an injury that historically was as serious as the achilles. He had a terrible year and I dont want him near our team. Zero chance that dude accepts a 3rd/4th option role.

Even if he did and he excelled do u really wanna attach your next 4 years to him with a max deal? no thanks.

[100proof]

Also, Dipo **** sucks. Dude tore his quad tendon, an injury that historically was as serious as the achilles. He had a terrible year and I dont want him near our team. Zero chance that dude accepts a 3rd/4th option role.

Even if he did and he excelled do u really wanna attach your next 4 years to him with a max deal? no thanks.

Dipo would be flipped imo.

To Dallas for THJ, Brunson and 18 perhaps?

Hayward, Theis, Langford, 14 to Indy

Dipo, Poirier to Dallas

Turner, Brunson, THJ #18 to Boston

Kemba/Brunson
Smart/THJ
Brown/GrantW
Tatum/Timelord
Turner/Kanter

Stll have MLE, #18 and #30

[Floody100]

Also, Dipo **** sucks. Dude tore his quad tendon, an injury that historically was as serious as the achilles. He had a terrible year and I dont want him near our team. Zero chance that dude accepts a 3rd/4th option role.

Even if he did and he excelled do u really wanna attach your next 4 years to him with a max deal? no thanks.

Dipo would be flipped imo.

To Dallas for THJ, Brunson and 18 perhaps?

Hayward, Theis, Langford, 14 to Indy

Dipo, Poirier to Dallas

Turner, Brunson, THJ #18 to Boston

Kemba/Brunson
Smart/THJ
Brown/GrantW
Tatum/Timelord
Turner/Kanter

Stll have MLE, #18 and #30

Maybe try see if we can add McDermott as well

[Stadium5]

I wouldn't want Dipo. Tatum and Brown need to be the 2 go-to wing scoring options...its part of the reason I hated the Hayward signing. It just takes the ball out of our best players hands. Our record when Jaylen scores at least 25pts is pretty telling so hopefully he can raise his game another level next year

We need to build a real team around Brown/Tatum. Preferably aggressive, tough, and physically imposing.

[MagicBagley18]

I wouldn't want Dipo. Tatum and Brown need to be the 2 go-to wing scoring options...its part of the reason I hated the Hayward signing. It just takes the ball out of our best players hands. Our record when Jaylen scores at least 25pts is pretty telling so hopefully he can raise his game another level next year

We need to build a real team around Brown/Tatum. Preferably aggressive, tough, and physically imposing.

They signed Hayward before they knew what tatum and brown would become and a healthy Hayward was a very good player. Things escalated so quickly w his injury, Tatums leap and brown developing. I agree about no dipo

[Swish1906]

Also, Dipo **** sucks. Dude tore his quad tendon, an injury that historically was as serious as the achilles. He had a terrible year and I dont want him near our team. Zero chance that dude accepts a 3rd/4th option role.

Even if he did and he excelled do u really wanna attach your next 4 years to him with a max deal? no thanks.

Dipo would be flipped imo.

To Dallas for THJ, Brunson and 18 perhaps?

Hayward, Theis, Langford, 14 to Indy

Dipo, Poirier to Dallas

Turner, Brunson, THJ #18 to Boston

Kemba/Brunson
Smart/THJ
Brown/GrantW
Tatum/Timelord
Turner/Kanter

Stll have MLE, #18 and #30

Mavs fan lurking. The Mavs are not throwing away two assets to switch for one year from THJ to Oladipo...i mean, good chances that post injury Oladipo isnt even a better player than THJ.

The Mavs wont do any major trades, they are going to wait for 2021. So many free agent options (beside the Giannis jackpot).

[djFan71]

You can always bring in a 3rd team to send Dipo too. DAL might make sense:

BOS: Turner, THJ for Hayward, Poirier, 26
IND: Hayward, 18, 26, 31, DAL '22 2nd for Dipo, Turner
DAL: Dipo, Poirier for THJ, 18, 31, future 2nd.

Is it possible to swap THJ for seth curry?

It would be nice, but I'm just trying to keep BOS cost down while getting Turner. THJ is just salary ballast. I doubt the financials work for DAL with only Curry, and they're fine dumping THJ but would want something for Seth.

[djFan71]

Spoiler:

Even if he did and he excelled do u really wanna attach your next 4 years to him with a max deal? no thanks.

Dipo would be flipped imo.

To Dallas for THJ, Brunson and 18 perhaps?

Hayward, Theis, Langford, 14 to Indy

Dipo, Poirier to Dallas

Turner, Brunson, THJ #18 to Boston

Kemba/Brunson
Smart/THJ
Brown/GrantW
Tatum/Timelord
Turner/Kanter

Stll have MLE, #18 and #30

Mavs fan lurking. The Mavs are not throwing away two assets to switch for one year from THJ to Oladipo...i mean, good chances that post injury Oladipo isnt even a better player than THJ.

The Mavs wont do any major trades, they are going to wait for 2021. So many free agent options (beside the Giannis jackpot).

That's probably the right approach. So many of these major trade targets are so hard to get fair value on. IND would want a king's ransom for Dip, but if you're the team buying, your thoughts are my thoughts.