Miami Heat Speculation Thread - 2020 and beyond...

[Rapaz]

We can expect Indiana fans to be fair and reasona . . .

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[dshearn]

We can expect Indiana fans to be fair and reasona . . .

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what's his realgm username?

[ThaFranchize84]

With Doc being let go in LA and rumors that one of the big reasons Kawhi went to LA was to play for Doc and the talk that Kawhi wanted Butler before George I think you have to wait this out to 2021. If there is even a small chance you can convince Giannis or Kawhi to join this core group without having to give up assets you take that chance.


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[Wiltside]

We can expect Indiana fans to be fair and reasona . . .

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[dshearn]

With Doc being let go in LA and rumors that one of the big reasons Kawhi went to LA was to play for Doc and the talk that Kawhi wanted Butler before George I think you have to wait this out to 2021. If there is even a small chance you can convince Giannis or Kawhi to join this core group without having to give up assets you take that chance.


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That would be insane, Kawhi would beat out Giannis in my mind. He would fit in so well

[DayofMourning]

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Wow. Obvious troll. ... ... I hope.

[IggieCC]

With Doc being let go in LA and rumors that one of the big reasons Kawhi went to LA was to play for Doc and the talk that Kawhi wanted Butler before George I think you have to wait this out to 2021. If there is even a small chance you can convince Giannis or Kawhi to join this core group without having to give up assets you take that chance.


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That would be insane, Kawhi would beat out Giannis in my mind. He would fit in so well

It's hard to see Kawhi leaving an LA team after all that hoopla he pulled last off-szn.

But if they fail again next szn in epic proportions like they did this szn, I could see Kawhi swallowing his pride and signing with most desirable team available (i.e. us). We'll see what happens but that guy is not built to last long, so we have to proceed with caution.

A lesser but younger and healthier player might have more positive ROI.

[RexBoyWonder]

check out 4:30

if Kelly is 6"11, KZ is legit 6"10. Nice shot too, mid range step back jumper all net.

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[dean456]

I will be interested to see what happens with Jae. Dude has ties to Jimmy and now has made the Finals as a starter with possibly the first team that’s really pushed him and trusted him. He may be willing to play ball when contract talks come up, but there will likely be a tough decision between money and happiness.

This team looks happy. Yes, winning makes people happy, but Meyers and Kendrick started a billion games this season and have seen exactly 113 minutes combined. Those two dudes could be pouting, but they’re not.

You will likely see Crowder and Dragic get a large one year deal this offseason then they will resign for the vet min in 2021 when we acquire a max player and resign Bam and Robinson.

If Dragic takes the MLE though then I want that mans jersey retired immediately. If he did that then we'd have roughly 17.5mil to work with and we can also retain Crowder and DJJr for whatever we want to pay them for one year.

Roster could look like this in 2021
Nunn/Dragic
Butler/Herro
Robinson/Iggy
Crowder/DJJr/Okpala
Bam/Ibaka

I think that would round us out nicely for next season going into 2021 FA.

[twix2500]

check out 4:30

if Kelly is 6"11, KZ is legit 6"10. Nice shot too, mid range step back jumper all net.

Watch on YouTube

Umm yeah Okpala was measured at 6'9.5. He was measured a quarter of an inch less than Bam on height and wingspan.

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[oreon]

With Doc being let go in LA and rumors that one of the big reasons Kawhi went to LA was to play for Doc and the talk that Kawhi wanted Butler before George I think you have to wait this out to 2021. If there is even a small chance you can convince Giannis or Kawhi to join this core group without having to give up assets you take that chance.


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That would be insane, Kawhi would beat out Giannis in my mind. He would fit in so well

Nah I'll take Giannis over Kawhi. Giannis in a team with elite shooters, multiple playmakers and cutters would be devastating. Defensively, Bam and Giannis would be no 1 defensive team in the league. Getting Giannis is a potential dynasty. He's weakness is that he can't close but we have multiple players here who can. Also Herro is slowing growing into that role.

Kawhi might get you a ring or two at best, but because of his age and injury history it would be a short window. On the otherhand Giannis is a 8 year window

[MHeat0279]

With Doc being let go in LA and rumors that one of the big reasons Kawhi went to LA was to play for Doc and the talk that Kawhi wanted Butler before George I think you have to wait this out to 2021. If there is even a small chance you can convince Giannis or Kawhi to join this core group without having to give up assets you take that chance.


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That would be insane, Kawhi would beat out Giannis in my mind. He would fit in so well

Nah I'll take Giannis over Kawhi. Giannis in a team with elite shooters, multiple playmakers and cutters would be devastating. Defensively, Bam and Giannis would be no 1 defensive team in the league. Getting Giannis is a potential dynasty. He's weakness is that he can't close but we have multiple players here who can. Also Herro is slowing growing into that role.

Kawhi might get you a ring or two at best, but because of his age and injury history it would be a short window. On the otherhand Giannis is a 8 year window

I would rather have Giannis as well

[Phinsoverpats]

I hope they add serge to the frontline

[RonaldSeikaly]

I wish we could trade out of this draft and get another late lottery pick next year.

I’m not convinced a whale will hit the open market this year or next. They will be available for trade but I honestly i wouldn’t move anybody except maybe nunn or olynk unless we are talking a young top 5 player like Giannis.... and while i trust spo to make it work, Giannis would not be an ideal fit next to Bam.


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[HeatFanLifer]

I wish we could trade out of this draft and get another late lottery pick next year.

I’m not convinced a whale will hit the open market this year or next. They will be available for trade but I honestly i wouldn’t move anybody except maybe nunn or olynk unless we are talking a young top 5 player like Giannis.... and while i trust spo to make it work, Giannis would not be an ideal fit next to Bam.


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Some teams may find it a disadvantage that there was no March Madness this year to look at players, but I think it is an advantage for Heat. They do more in terms of evaluating unrecognized talent than many other teams. That’s why they have done so well with so many undrafted picks. March Madness helps a player gain attention, but Heat scouting is ahead of the game.

[Flash4thewin]

I wish we could trade out of this draft and get another late lottery pick next year.

I’m not convinced a whale will hit the open market this year or next. They will be available for trade but I honestly i wouldn’t move anybody except maybe nunn or olynk unless we are talking a young top 5 player like Giannis.... and while i trust spo to make it work, Giannis would not be an ideal fit next to Bam.


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Some teams may find it a disadvantage that there was no March Madness this year to look at players, but I think it is an advantage for Heat. They do more in terms of evaluating unrecognized talent than many other teams. That’s why they have done so well with so many undrafted picks. March Madness helps a player gain attention, but Heat scouting is ahead of the game.

Teams that have bad scouting departments will be hurt.

[twix2500]

It looks like Oladipo is setting himself up to push for a trade to the Heat. But it is always a challenge when its in-conference rivals. The Heat striked out four times to get a top teir point to pair Butler and Bam with Wall, Westbrook, Paul and Conley. Oladipo is probably a better fit than all four even thou hes been considered a shooting guard his whole career. The Heat this season has gotten to the finals using a scoring point. So I think his skill set fits the role. Brings another scorer to the fold which I think is vital when building a team around Butler. So should see soon after the finals

https://youtu.be/CjY81X1umwU


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[RexBoyWonder]

It looks like Oladipo is setting himself up to push for a trade to the Heat. But it is always a challenge when its in-conference rivals. The Heat striked out four times to get a top teir point to pair Butler and Bam with Wall, Westbrook, Paul and Conley. Oladipo is probably a better fit than all four even thou hes been considered a shooting guard his whole career. The Heat this season has gotten to the finals using a scoring point. So I think his skill set fits the role. Brings another scorer to the fold which I think is vital when building a team around Butler. So should see soon after the finals

https://youtu.be/CjY81X1umwU


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I used to be high on Dip, but honestly he only had 1 great year. very scary committing long term money / assets for him.

1 good year, then a serious injury, nothing impressive since.

[insfo]

I'm more interested in Turner if we are going to get someone from Indiana. Just imagine how Bam and he would fit on offense, where Bam could play closer to the rim/midrange with Turner raining 3s. And on the defensive end, Turner can guard the rim while Bam can roam and do his guarding 1-5 role without worrying about giving up offensive rebounds

[Wiltside]

Turner is a nice fit alongside Bam, but I'm not sure how I feel about committing $17.5m for him the next 3 seasons. He's young, so in theory could still get better, but adding that type of salary I assume takes us out of the running of a max slot in 2021. That's a no go for me.

He's a 12/7 center. He blocks 2 shots a game and shoots 1.4 treys per, but shoots 45% from the floor and 34% from deep. I like him, and I think he'd be better here than in Indy, but I don't know if it's worth sacrificing a shot at a big dog.

Also, can someone enlighten me on how he defends the pick n' roll? My memory on him was his lateral quickness wasn't the best, but I'm happy to be told otherwise.

My concern is we've become an elite team based on having Bam plus a SF/PF type alongside him. How does moving Bam back to the 4 and playing Turner essentially in the Crowder role effect this?