OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread

[LBJKB24MJ23]

covid deaths in canada do not make the top fifty deaths in any province or the country... but yes... lets keep pumping the false narrative.... classic Stockholm syndrome mentality lead by our fool PM....

And in other news, Canada had 5 covid deaths today amongst a population of 38 million ... country grinds to a halt as panic ensues... dumb politicians each trying to outdo each other in hysterical fear mongering and general incompetence .... while real economic apocalypse continues.... and countless businesses shut down. In Canada(facts): "Anything you can do to help your heart. Exercise and eating well are massively more important than the more obscure ways people worry about dying." "You are more likely to die from a car accident than from Covid-19." "You are more likely to die from cardiovascular diseases, or cancer, than from Covid-19."
#TimeToTravel
#StupidityShowsNoBounds
#StockholmSyndrome

I suggest you use the hospitalization/death rate of seniors as your measuring stick. Otherwise GTFO with your policy decisions. You don't get to choose what percentage of the population gets to be considered dispensable. And what are these freedoms that are so under attack in Canada because of COVID? Our national security measures and corporation rights to data collection and use is much more of a problem for freedom than any lockdown resulting from COVID.

I don't understand people who have these types of freedom fears, typically right wingers. If you look around, the freedoms of people to what happens to their community, city, country, has already been lost to almost a complete degree to big business and social policing institutions. Basically any institution that doesn't have meaningful civilian oversight. And even more mind buggling, they tend to be right wingers, or rely on right wing politics and voters. How is it that you can't see how the fear of losing freedoms has been the biggest fear mongering and freedom impinging flag for these people? I mean you can look across the border to see what loss of freedom is like in a democratic country and it's spearheaded by exactly those types of people.

This has nothing to do with beliefs.. and everything to do with stats.... save your bs opinions and Stockholm Syndrome worshipping for the preachers like Trudeau and our incompetent media and other politicians who know fk all....

Covid has been the most over hyped non plague event of our lifetime.... with the best pr anywhere!! Lol as one famous Stanford Head of Medical school proclaimed a while ago ... the fools out there ideed drank all the jim jones coolaide....

This is not the Spanish Flu of 1918... but the pumpers out there made you believe so.... so many fools...

Stats don't lie... but pumpers gonna believe what they wanna beleive...

i agree with you that the lockdowns and such are overhyped but people are dumb, stupid, and ignorant. sometimes you just have to save people from themselves and to save others from people who take the situation for granted and can give someone COVID who could die from it, yes we know its not a significant number but it also shows how poorly we can handle such a 'little thing' as covid.

there could be possibly something even more dangerous down the line and this whole 'pandemic' thing is that a whole lot can be learned from it. how else is the world going to be ready for something more dangerous down the line?

[Fairview4Life]

I never thought I'd say this as a numbers guy but **** statistics.

Over the past 6 months, I've never seen stats so horribly miscontrued and taken out of context.

Eye test says people are getting sick and losing their lives. Plain and simple. We've been given the tools to minimize the loss of life and some people just can't put their own selfishness aside to use those tools.

Citing statistics when it comes to loss of life. Lol. Get out of here with that bull.

The government can borrow money at extremely low interest rates and pay people to not open bars and restaurants. The idea that we need bars and restaurants open so "life can go on" for like a few **** months is silly. Get the damn numbers down, then you too can enjoy sitting in a restaurant with a mask on like those of us in Atlantic Canada.

[Fairview4Life]

People keep mentioning lockdowns, but what has actually been locked down in Ontario? When were things actually "locked down"?

[Purdydrup]

700 new cases using a testing process that isn't close to being accurate. If you look at the numbers, less than 1000 people out of 38 billion under the age of 70 have died in Canada. Keep giving up your rights and believing the media narrative. I'm sure I'll get bombarded by trolls for saying this.

[Fairview4Life]

Yes, you will be so persecuted. Oh no.

It's cool that covid 19 is the only 2 true outcome virus ever. You're either dead or you're perfectly fine.

[Mack11]

Seeing as how most of this forum is from Ontario, I thought it might be relevant and interesting to have a thread to discuss the 2nd wave of COVID that is currently grappling our province.

Ontario is reporting 700 new cases today (most ever on record), with a 1.7% test positive rate (highest since june).....CBC news says forcasts expect Ontario to reach 1000 new cases per day by mid-to-late October.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/covid-19-coronavirus-ontario-numbers-september-28-1.5741454

Casinos are also re-opening today. What do you guys think? Is ford doing enough? Do you guys think we will see another full lockdown again?

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[Johnny Bball]

If they don’t shut schools, bars etc... this is going to be Florida in about ten days. That’s how long it took to double out of control in the early summer.

They gave us a chance, but we’ve proven they are still too many selfish pricks that can’t follow rules. We couldn’t even make it two months until there’s a vaccine ready.

[Local_NG_Idiot]

700 new cases using a testing process that isn't close to being accurate. If you look at the numbers, less than 1000 people out of 38 billion under the age of 70 have died in Canada.

I know there was a baby boom, but I had no idea Canada had 38 BILLION old people. No wonder my taxes are so high!

Keep giving up your rights and believing the media narrative. I'm sure I'll get bombarded by trolls for saying this.

What rights have you given up? Look, I know you're angry you can't visit your favorite gentlemen's club right now, but that really isn't a right, more of a privilege.

[BigBoss23]

700 new cases using a testing process that isn't close to being accurate. If you look at the numbers, less than 1000 people out of 38 billion under the age of 70 have died in Canada.

I know there was a baby boom, but I had no idea Canada had 38 BILLION old people. No wonder my taxes are so high!

Keep giving up your rights and believing the media narrative. I'm sure I'll get bombarded by trolls for saying this.

What rights have you given up? Look, I know you're angry you can't visit your favorite gentlemen's club right now, but that really isn't a right, more of a privilege.

Privilege - a special right, advantage, or immunity granted or available only to a particular person or group.

The media and gov't look for scapegoats to blame aka the no fun police. There are two extremes in a lot of these cases but without an accurate control variable, you can never truly get an accurate picture of the whole situation but its easy to blame "young people, adult entertainment, bars, restaurants" even if the stats dont support that.

[carlosey]

its amazing with all the doom and gloom its crazy how high housing prices are. I know interest rates are low but its nuts! housing sector never fails.

Something fishy about the housing sector in all this...

[Local_NG_Idiot]

700 new cases using a testing process that isn't close to being accurate. If you look at the numbers, less than 1000 people out of 38 billion under the age of 70 have died in Canada.

I know there was a baby boom, but I had no idea Canada had 38 BILLION old people. No wonder my taxes are so high!

Keep giving up your rights and believing the media narrative. I'm sure I'll get bombarded by trolls for saying this.

What rights have you given up? Look, I know you're angry you can't visit your favorite gentlemen's club right now, but that really isn't a right, more of a privilege.

Privilege - a special right, advantage, or immunity granted or available only to a particular person or group.

The media and gov't look for scapegoats to blame aka the no fun police. There are two extremes in a lot of these cases but without an accurate control variable, you can never truly get an accurate picture of the whole situation but its easy to blame "young people, adult entertainment, bars, restaurants" even if the stats dont support that.

Last I checked, bars and restaurants are still open. And as far as policy in Ontario? The major change with the current upswing in positive cases is unregulated gathering #s, which is (wait for it.......) where all of our community transmission is happening based upon those pesky statistics you are advocating we follow. Closing the strip clubs? Yea, again, multiple traceable outbreaks so temporarily close them down in order to review and implement proper regulatory measures to limit the potential spread.

[BigBoss23]

its amazing with all the doom and gloom its crazy how high housing prices are. I know interest rates are low but its nuts! housing sector never fails.

Something fishy about the housing sector in all this...

Not really. People will always put a roof over their head above all else (at least those who dont rent).

The WFH group hasnt really been impacted by covid and if we're being honest, those that are in financial difficulties werent likely to be in a position to be a home owner either.

[Fairview4Life]

“The stats” actually do support a whole lot of spread happening in doors at places like bars and restaurants when they are opened with no distancing or masks or whatever.

[BigBoss23]

I know there was a baby boom, but I had no idea Canada had 38 BILLION old people. No wonder my taxes are so high!



What rights have you given up? Look, I know you're angry you can't visit your favorite gentlemen's club right now, but that really isn't a right, more of a privilege.

Privilege - a special right, advantage, or immunity granted or available only to a particular person or group.

The media and gov't look for scapegoats to blame aka the no fun police. There are two extremes in a lot of these cases but without an accurate control variable, you can never truly get an accurate picture of the whole situation but its easy to blame "young people, adult entertainment, bars, restaurants" even if the stats dont support that.

Last I checked, bars and restaurants are still open. And as far as policy in Ontario? The major change with the current upswing in positive cases is unregulated gathering #s, which is (wait for it.......) where all of our community transmission is happening based upon those pesky statistics you are advocating we follow. Closing the strip clubs? Yea, again, multiple traceable outbreaks so temporarily close them down in order to review and implement proper regulatory measures to limit the potential spread.

Actually, public health has already ruled out the primary source of transmission being from strip clubs, restaurants, etc. as an example. The verdict is "large social gatherings at private residences".

But they closed certain businesses anyway because of a bunch of triggered Karens.

[RaptorReloaded]

its amazing with all the doom and gloom its crazy how high housing prices are. I know interest rates are low but its nuts! housing sector never fails.

Something fishy about the housing sector in all this...

Part of the reason is that there are so few houses available in city that it creates scarcity. To many people bidding on very few properties. That’s for homes anyway. Condos have maintained their value and either increased or dipped a little depending on the location. This is in part to do with a large inventory of condos available, condos being built or owners selling their units cause they can’t get anyone to rent. The rental market has definitely gone down.

[DHK]

554 cases today 9/29
https://files.ontario.ca/moh-covid-19-report-en-2020-09-29.pdf

[lolwut]

covid deaths in canada do not make the top fifty deaths in any province or the country... but yes... lets keep pumping the false narrative.... classic Stockholm syndrome mentality lead by our fool PM....

And in other news, Canada had 5 covid deaths today amongst a population of 38 million ... country grinds to a halt as panic ensues... dumb politicians each trying to outdo each other in hysterical fear mongering and general incompetence .... while real economic apocalypse continues.... and countless businesses shut down. In Canada(facts): "Anything you can do to help your heart. Exercise and eating well are massively more important than the more obscure ways people worry about dying." "You are more likely to die from a car accident than from Covid-19." "You are more likely to die from cardiovascular diseases, or cancer, than from Covid-19."
#TimeToTravel
#StupidityShowsNoBounds
#StockholmSyndrome

The country did not grind to a halt. I still work. I still go to the grocery store to get food. I still go to stores to pick up essential products that I need.

I can do all of that while wearing a mask. My life goes on with the minor inconvenience of wearing a mask outside. In no way has anything in my life come grinding to a halt at any point of this epidemic.

[Local_NG_Idiot]

Privilege - a special right, advantage, or immunity granted or available only to a particular person or group.

The media and gov't look for scapegoats to blame aka the no fun police. There are two extremes in a lot of these cases but without an accurate control variable, you can never truly get an accurate picture of the whole situation but its easy to blame "young people, adult entertainment, bars, restaurants" even if the stats dont support that.

Last I checked, bars and restaurants are still open. And as far as policy in Ontario? The major change with the current upswing in positive cases is unregulated gathering #s, which is (wait for it.......) where all of our community transmission is happening based upon those pesky statistics you are advocating we follow. Closing the strip clubs? Yea, again, multiple traceable outbreaks so temporarily close them down in order to review and implement proper regulatory measures to limit the potential spread.

Actually, public health has already ruled out the primary source of transmission being from strip clubs, restaurants, etc. as an example. The verdict is "large social gatherings at private residences".

Yea, that's what I stated, glad we agree #s should go down when unregulated gatherings can't follow simple guidelines to limit the spread.

But they closed certain businesses anyway because of a bunch of triggered Karens.

By 'certain businesses' you mean strip clubs? And the reason they are currently shut down isn't because of triggered Karens, it's because there were outbreaks within staff and more than 2/3rds of the patrons gave false contact info making it impossible to effectively trace potential spread. Until there is a solution for proper traceability, yup, doors closed.

[Purdydrup]

covid deaths in canada do not make the top fifty deaths in any province or the country... but yes... lets keep pumping the false narrative.... classic Stockholm syndrome mentality lead by our fool PM....

And in other news, Canada had 5 covid deaths today amongst a population of 38 million ... country grinds to a halt as panic ensues... dumb politicians each trying to outdo each other in hysterical fear mongering and general incompetence .... while real economic apocalypse continues.... and countless businesses shut down. In Canada(facts): "Anything you can do to help your heart. Exercise and eating well are massively more important than the more obscure ways people worry about dying." "You are more likely to die from a car accident than from Covid-19." "You are more likely to die from cardiovascular diseases, or cancer, than from Covid-19."
#TimeToTravel
#StupidityShowsNoBounds
#StockholmSyndrome

When you see Global News is owned by the same company as CNN, it's not hard to understand why they are pushing the exact same narrative for something every new piece of information shows being less harmful than the flu.

All you see on the news is cases, cases, cases. A quick search of recent covid deaths in Canada has shown they have flatlined for a long time now. All about the fear mongering, and people not smart enough, or too naive to research things themselves, eat it all up without thinking twice.

[Danny1616]

covid deaths in canada do not make the top fifty deaths in any province or the country... but yes... lets keep pumping the false narrative.... classic Stockholm syndrome mentality lead by our fool PM....

And in other news, Canada had 5 covid deaths today amongst a population of 38 million ... country grinds to a halt as panic ensues... dumb politicians each trying to outdo each other in hysterical fear mongering and general incompetence .... while real economic apocalypse continues.... and countless businesses shut down. In Canada(facts): "Anything you can do to help your heart. Exercise and eating well are massively more important than the more obscure ways people worry about dying." "You are more likely to die from a car accident than from Covid-19." "You are more likely to die from cardiovascular diseases, or cancer, than from Covid-19."
#TimeToTravel
#StupidityShowsNoBounds
#StockholmSyndrome

When you see Global News is owned by the same company as CNN, it's not hard to understand why they are pushing the exact same narrative for something every new piece of information shows being less harmful than the flu.

All you see on the news is cases, cases, cases. A quick search of recent covid deaths in Canada has shown they have flatlined for a long time now. All about the fear mongering, and people not smart enough, or too naive to research things themselves, eat it all up without thinking twice.

Strange how the flu kills roughly 40,000 Americans annually and Covid-19 killed 200,000 Americans in a 7 month span despite major social gatherings, sports events, large conferences, big weddings, foreign travel being restricted, as well as social distancing procotols and mask mandates, YET you are saying it is actually 'less' harmful.

You calling people naïve or not smart enough, when you don't even know basic statistics.