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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread ***(700 new cases 9/28) 

Post#161 » by BigBoss23 » Tue Sep 29, 2020 4:39 pm

mtcan wrote:
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Well these venues have been opened since stage 3, what changed in recent weeks? Did the virus decide to change course a few months after stage 3?

It takes time for Public Health to gather data through contact tracing and build the case. And obviously it can take days to weeks for people to become symptomatic.

This was likely happening for weeks since stage 3 began.

And it takes people to speak up and report these bars and restaurants that are not complying with the rules. Public Health officials can't know of how every bar/club/restaurant is doing with respect to the rules.


A case where we haven't seen the numbers that they are supposedly seeing and interpreting as they see fit. As objective as NBA officiating where they is also no transparency.

But somehow it took 3 months for covid to start spreading like wildfire even though these same high risk venues were opened since June.

The same public officials who had family over for dinner after asking people not to, had a fellow MP's wedding with no social distancing, and went to his cottage after telling people not to.

Its all a crock of bull as far I'm concerned, where the cure is worse than the disease. Time will tell.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread ***(700 new cases 9/28) 

Post#162 » by TorontoRapsFan » Tue Sep 29, 2020 4:42 pm

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Kingsway_fan wrote:covid deaths in canada do not make the top fifty deaths in any province or the country... but yes... lets keep pumping the false narrative.... classic Stockholm syndrome mentality lead by our fool PM....

And in other news, Canada had 5 covid deaths today amongst a population of 38 million ... country grinds to a halt as panic ensues... dumb politicians each trying to outdo each other in hysterical fear mongering and general incompetence .... while real economic apocalypse continues.... and countless businesses shut down. In Canada(facts): "Anything you can do to help your heart. Exercise and eating well are massively more important than the more obscure ways people worry about dying." "You are more likely to die from a car accident than from Covid-19." "You are more likely to die from cardiovascular diseases, or cancer, than from Covid-19."
#TimeToTravel
#StupidityShowsNoBounds
#StockholmSyndrome


I suggest you use the hospitalization/death rate of seniors as your measuring stick. Otherwise GTFO with your policy decisions. You don't get to choose what percentage of the population gets to be considered dispensable. And what are these freedoms that are so under attack in Canada because of COVID? Our national security measures and corporation rights to data collection and use is much more of a problem for freedom than any lockdown resulting from COVID.

I don't understand people who have these types of freedom fears, typically right wingers. If you look around, the freedoms of people to what happens to their community, city, country, has already been lost to almost a complete degree to big business and social policing institutions. Basically any institution that doesn't have meaningful civilian oversight. And even more mind buggling, they tend to be right wingers, or rely on right wing politics and voters. How is it that you can't see how the fear of losing freedoms has been the biggest fear mongering and freedom impinging flag for these people? I mean you can look across the border to see what loss of freedom is like in a democratic country and it's spearheaded by exactly those types of people.



This has nothing to do with beliefs.. and everything to do with stats.... save your bs opinions and Stockholm Syndrome worshipping for the preachers like Trudeau and our incompetent media and other politicians who know fk all....

Covid has been the most over hyped non plague event of our lifetime.... with the best pr anywhere!! Lol as one famous Stanford Head of Medical school proclaimed a while ago ... the fools out there ideed drank all the jim jones coolaide....

This is not the Spanish Flu of 1918... but the pumpers out there made you believe so.... so many fools...

Stats don't lie... but pumpers gonna believe what they wanna beleive...


You don't understand how to relate stats to life in a society made up of other people. Your non stockholm syndrom affected opinion goes only as far as your own interests. COVID statistics are interpreted in, generally, these ways by people who take some responsibility for being members of a society:
You go by the higher possibility of death even though those only happen to a small percentage of the population.
You go by the worse possible prediction model because when dealing with something like a whole country and everything that goes into maintaining a certain level of infrastructure you better not gamble on your hopes.
You look at cost benefit to the health system. Hospitalization rates, cost to health care, post COVID symptoms and their cost to health care, possible loss of labourers due to disability ( COVID can cause long term lung damage, long term cardiovascular conditions, etc...) all at the end of the day having economic impact. And yes chronic strain on the health system will likely be more costly to all of us than the economic losses right now.
But most importantly of all, you take into account the fact that unlike car accidents and cancers, and lightning, and the fact that this 2020 and not 1919, measures can be taken that can seriously minimize death and misery from a virus.

But no... let's be like the Americans and cow to people like you because we have no real moral compass and responsibility towards people and at the very least their right to not end up sacrificed to the continual growth of the stock markets. Believe it or not, the only person with stockholm syndrome is you here.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread ***(554 new cases 9/29) 

Post#163 » by Caboclo » Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:52 pm

Some grade A trolling in here.

Stop taking the bait guys.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread ***(554 new cases 9/29) 

Post#164 » by wayoftheroad » Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:02 pm

I got tested Sunday and no results yet. They gotta step up the efforts of testing and getting results out
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread ***(554 new cases 9/29) 

Post#165 » by noname2797 » Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:12 pm

wayoftheroad wrote:I got tested Sunday and no results yet. They gotta step up the efforts of testing and getting results out

I think it was reported that it's been taking 2 days on average in Toronto :/
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread ***(554 new cases 9/29) 

Post#167 » by Kevin Willis » Tue Sep 29, 2020 9:20 pm

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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread ***(554 new cases 9/29) 

Post#168 » by Raps in 4 » Tue Sep 29, 2020 9:53 pm

wayoftheroad wrote:I got tested Sunday and no results yet. They gotta step up the efforts of testing and getting results out


Apparantly home kits are available that provide results in 15 minutes. The government just needs to approve them. They are only a few percentage points less accurate than the current tests, which is more than adequate.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread ***(554 new cases 9/29) 

Post#169 » by D.Brasco » Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:12 pm

wayoftheroad wrote:I got tested Sunday and no results yet. They gotta step up the efforts of testing and getting results out


Can I ask the reason you got tested? Any symptoms or were you in an area with someone who did have covid?
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread ***(554 new cases 9/29) 

Post#170 » by Danny1616 » Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:17 pm

wayoftheroad wrote:I got tested Sunday and no results yet. They gotta step up the efforts of testing and getting results out


Takes 2-3 days in GTA.

Better than some places in the US were it can take over a week, lol.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread ***(554 new cases 9/29) 

Post#171 » by execoftheyear » Tue Sep 29, 2020 11:29 pm

With flu season coming, I wonder if it's possible to catch both, if so this could lead to potentially a bigger issue. Or if you were to catch one you could potentially be immune to the other which would obviously be good news.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread ***(700 new cases 9/28) 

Post#172 » by mtcan » Tue Sep 29, 2020 11:37 pm

BigBoss23 wrote:
mtcan wrote:
BigBoss23 wrote:
Well these venues have been opened since stage 3, what changed in recent weeks? Did the virus decide to change course a few months after stage 3?

It takes time for Public Health to gather data through contact tracing and build the case. And obviously it can take days to weeks for people to become symptomatic.

This was likely happening for weeks since stage 3 began.

And it takes people to speak up and report these bars and restaurants that are not complying with the rules. Public Health officials can't know of how every bar/club/restaurant is doing with respect to the rules.


A case where we haven't seen the numbers that they are supposedly seeing and interpreting as they see fit. As objective as NBA officiating where they is also no transparency.

But somehow it took 3 months for covid to start spreading like wildfire even though these same high risk venues were opened since June.

The same public officials who had family over for dinner after asking people not to, had a fellow MP's wedding with no social distancing, and went to his cottage after telling people not to.

Its all a crock of bull as far I'm concerned, where the cure is worse than the disease. Time will tell.

I'm seeing through your blatant attempt at "what-about-ism" to change the topic to detract from what we all see.

First off...stage 3 of reopening in Toronto didn't happen in JUNE...it happened in AUGUST. See this link from the City of Toronto as an update to the progress of stage 3 after 1 week...and it was posted August 10:
https://www.toronto.ca/news/city-of-toronto-update-on-covid-19-and-stage-3-reopening/

So based on the fact that stage 3 happened in AUGUST...it is totally reasonable to see a steady rise in cases in SEPTEMBER. So, here you are WRONG. Facts. Use them. You really are misinformed...or in denial of the truth.

Okay...show me the reference where John Tory (Mayor of Toronto) or Eileen De Villa (Chief Public Health Officer of Toronto) were caught attending a wedding or holding a house party. This has NOTHING to do with what Doug Ford or Justin Trudeau might have done many months earlier. I'm sure just because your parents lied to you (I'm sure they have told you some untruths in your life) that you should never listen to them ever again. And I'm sure that you have never told a lie or tried to break rules before. I'm not apologizing for them but we all **** up...doesn't make their words less useful. It's only when you decide that it's a convenient excuse to reject facts and reality.

And ya...you seem to know much more and have more resources and information about covid-19, contact tracing tools and epidemiological data than the chief public health officer of the City of Toronto who also happens to be an actual medical doctor.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread ***(554 new cases 9/29) 

Post#173 » by mtcan » Tue Sep 29, 2020 11:38 pm

Danny1616 wrote:
wayoftheroad wrote:I got tested Sunday and no results yet. They gotta step up the efforts of testing and getting results out


Takes 2-3 days in GTA.

Better than some places in the US were it can take over a week, lol.

Some testing sites are telling us it can take up to 4 days for results.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread ***(554 new cases 9/29) 

Post#174 » by Lord_Zedd » Tue Sep 29, 2020 11:43 pm

mtcan wrote:
Danny1616 wrote:
wayoftheroad wrote:I got tested Sunday and no results yet. They gotta step up the efforts of testing and getting results out


Takes 2-3 days in GTA.

Better than some places in the US were it can take over a week, lol.

Some testing sites are telling us it can take up to 4 days for results.


When I had my test in July, results were literally the next day. Not to mention, zero wait.

Ontario now has a backlog of 54,759 and I'm not surprised results are taking longer. Ontario alone is like testing almost as much as Canada combined right now.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread ***(700 new cases 9/28) 

Post#175 » by BigBoss23 » Tue Sep 29, 2020 11:58 pm

mtcan wrote:
BigBoss23 wrote:
mtcan wrote:It takes time for Public Health to gather data through contact tracing and build the case. And obviously it can take days to weeks for people to become symptomatic.

This was likely happening for weeks since stage 3 began.

And it takes people to speak up and report these bars and restaurants that are not complying with the rules. Public Health officials can't know of how every bar/club/restaurant is doing with respect to the rules.


A case where we haven't seen the numbers that they are supposedly seeing and interpreting as they see fit. As objective as NBA officiating where they is also no transparency.

But somehow it took 3 months for covid to start spreading like wildfire even though these same high risk venues were opened since June.

The same public officials who had family over for dinner after asking people not to, had a fellow MP's wedding with no social distancing, and went to his cottage after telling people not to.

Its all a crock of bull as far I'm concerned, where the cure is worse than the disease. Time will tell.

I'm seeing through your blatant attempt at "what-about-ism" to change the topic to detract from what we all see.

First off...stage 3 of reopening in Toronto didn't happen in JUNE...it happened in AUGUST. See this link from the City of Toronto as an update to the progress of stage 3 after 1 week...and it was posted August 10:
https://www.toronto.ca/news/city-of-toronto-update-on-covid-19-and-stage-3-reopening/

So based on the fact that stage 3 happened in AUGUST...it is totally reasonable to see a steady rise in cases in SEPTEMBER. So, here you are WRONG. Facts. Use them. You really are misinformed...or in denial of the truth.

Okay...show me the reference where John Tory (Mayor of Toronto) or Eileen De Villa (Chief Public Health Officer of Toronto) were caught attending a wedding or holding a house party. This has NOTHING to do with what Doug Ford or Justin Trudeau might have done many months earlier. I'm sure just because your parents lied to you (I'm sure they have told you some untruths in your life) that you should never listen to them ever again. And I'm sure that you have never told a lie or tried to break rules before. I'm not apologizing for them but we all **** up...doesn't make their words less useful. It's only when you decide that it's a convenient excuse to reject facts and reality.

And ya...you seem to know much more and have more resources and information about covid-19, contact tracing tools and epidemiological data than the chief public health officer of the City of Toronto who also happens to be an actual medical doctor.


Youre right about August I stand corrected.

You have yet to show one link or fact that supports the notion that besides private social gatherings, that the current resurgence is in large part to specific venues. It may seem logical that we are getting more cases now in late September than August, but its just an assumed correlation.

We have had news reports of cases at many stores in the mall and all walks of life. Why dont you bring up all the strip club cases and show all of us that the numbers are directly because of this sort of venue and that its not happening elsewhere? Its called scapegoating.

But hey go ahead and never question the authorities they must know whats best even though many have questioned whether the cure is better than the disease.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread ***(700 new cases 9/28) 

Post#176 » by mtcan » Wed Sep 30, 2020 12:35 am

BigBoss23 wrote:
mtcan wrote:
BigBoss23 wrote:
A case where we haven't seen the numbers that they are supposedly seeing and interpreting as they see fit. As objective as NBA officiating where they is also no transparency.

But somehow it took 3 months for covid to start spreading like wildfire even though these same high risk venues were opened since June.

The same public officials who had family over for dinner after asking people not to, had a fellow MP's wedding with no social distancing, and went to his cottage after telling people not to.

Its all a crock of bull as far I'm concerned, where the cure is worse than the disease. Time will tell.

I'm seeing through your blatant attempt at "what-about-ism" to change the topic to detract from what we all see.

First off...stage 3 of reopening in Toronto didn't happen in JUNE...it happened in AUGUST. See this link from the City of Toronto as an update to the progress of stage 3 after 1 week...and it was posted August 10:
https://www.toronto.ca/news/city-of-toronto-update-on-covid-19-and-stage-3-reopening/

So based on the fact that stage 3 happened in AUGUST...it is totally reasonable to see a steady rise in cases in SEPTEMBER. So, here you are WRONG. Facts. Use them. You really are misinformed...or in denial of the truth.

Okay...show me the reference where John Tory (Mayor of Toronto) or Eileen De Villa (Chief Public Health Officer of Toronto) were caught attending a wedding or holding a house party. This has NOTHING to do with what Doug Ford or Justin Trudeau might have done many months earlier. I'm sure just because your parents lied to you (I'm sure they have told you some untruths in your life) that you should never listen to them ever again. And I'm sure that you have never told a lie or tried to break rules before. I'm not apologizing for them but we all **** up...doesn't make their words less useful. It's only when you decide that it's a convenient excuse to reject facts and reality.

And ya...you seem to know much more and have more resources and information about covid-19, contact tracing tools and epidemiological data than the chief public health officer of the City of Toronto who also happens to be an actual medical doctor.


Youre right about August I stand corrected.

You have yet to show one link or fact that supports the notion that besides private social gatherings, that the current resurgence is in large part to specific venues. It may seem logical that we are getting more cases now in late September than August, but its just an assumed correlation.

We have had news reports of cases at many stores in the mall and all walks of life. Why dont you bring up all the strip club cases and show all of us that the numbers are directly because of this sort of venue and that its not happening elsewhere? Its called scapegoating.

But hey go ahead and never question the authorities they must know whats best even though many have questioned whether the cure is better than the disease.


You obviously didn't read any of the links I posted above. There are multiple positive cases in each of those bars and that includes employees who were there on a regular basis. And there were roughly 1700 people that might have been in contact with these employees. And reports are that mask wearing and social distancing was minimal if nonexistent in these establishments. And correlation really is causation because it's NOT a coincidence that since restaurants and bars have been allowed to open...cases have gone up. There is NO other cause because grocery stores have been open throughout the pandemic and lots of retail stores have opened since stage 2 in July. The BIG difference between stable and low numbers from June and July and skyrocketing numbers in September is bars/strip clubs and restaurants allowing people inside. And I DO include night clubs/strip clubs along with bars and indoor dining at restaurants as major culprits leading to this spike in case. They all need to close their doors to people spending prolonged period of time inside or severely restrict until case numbers go down. I absolutely blame strip clubs as part of the problem. Don't get it twisted.

And there ARE reports of positive cases in malls, grocery stores and other businesses...but unlike a restaurant and bars where patrons are NOT wearing masks for hours at a time because they have to eat or drink...people are generally compliant with mask wearing in malls, grocery stores other retail outlets. Lots of stores ARE limiting the number of people allowed in at once. Whataboutism once again...but this time you've got it all wrong...once again.

The information being fed to me makes sense to me as a rational, responsible adult. It's not me blindly believing anything. Just because you choose to not believe what's out there doesn't make you somehow more knowledgeable or smarter.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread ***(700 new cases 9/28) 

Post#177 » by BigBoss23 » Wed Sep 30, 2020 12:45 am

mtcan wrote:
BigBoss23 wrote:
mtcan wrote:I'm seeing through your blatant attempt at "what-about-ism" to change the topic to detract from what we all see.

First off...stage 3 of reopening in Toronto didn't happen in JUNE...it happened in AUGUST. See this link from the City of Toronto as an update to the progress of stage 3 after 1 week...and it was posted August 10:
https://www.toronto.ca/news/city-of-toronto-update-on-covid-19-and-stage-3-reopening/

So based on the fact that stage 3 happened in AUGUST...it is totally reasonable to see a steady rise in cases in SEPTEMBER. So, here you are WRONG. Facts. Use them. You really are misinformed...or in denial of the truth.

Okay...show me the reference where John Tory (Mayor of Toronto) or Eileen De Villa (Chief Public Health Officer of Toronto) were caught attending a wedding or holding a house party. This has NOTHING to do with what Doug Ford or Justin Trudeau might have done many months earlier. I'm sure just because your parents lied to you (I'm sure they have told you some untruths in your life) that you should never listen to them ever again. And I'm sure that you have never told a lie or tried to break rules before. I'm not apologizing for them but we all **** up...doesn't make their words less useful. It's only when you decide that it's a convenient excuse to reject facts and reality.

And ya...you seem to know much more and have more resources and information about covid-19, contact tracing tools and epidemiological data than the chief public health officer of the City of Toronto who also happens to be an actual medical doctor.


Youre right about August I stand corrected.

You have yet to show one link or fact that supports the notion that besides private social gatherings, that the current resurgence is in large part to specific venues. It may seem logical that we are getting more cases now in late September than August, but its just an assumed correlation.

We have had news reports of cases at many stores in the mall and all walks of life. Why dont you bring up all the strip club cases and show all of us that the numbers are directly because of this sort of venue and that its not happening elsewhere? Its called scapegoating.

But hey go ahead and never question the authorities they must know whats best even though many have questioned whether the cure is better than the disease.


You obviously didn't read any of the links I posted above. There are multiple positive cases in each of those bars and that includes employees who were there on a regular basis. And there were roughly 1700 people that might have been in contact with these employees. And reports are that mask wearing and social distancing was minimal if nonexistent in these establishments. And correlation really is causation because it's NOT a coincidence that since restaurants and bars have been allowed to open...cases have gone up. There is NO other cause because grocery stores have been open throughout the pandemic and lots of retail stores have opened since stage 2 in July. The BIG difference between stable and low numbers from June and July and skyrocketing numbers in September is bars/strip clubs and restaurants allowing people inside. And I DO include night clubs/strip clubs along with bars and indoor dining at restaurants as major culprits leading to this spike in case. They all need to close their doors to people spending prolonged period of time inside or severely restrict until case numbers go down. I absolutely blame strip clubs as part of the problem. Don't get it twisted.

And there ARE reports of positive cases in malls, grocery stores and other businesses...but unlike a restaurant and bars where patrons are NOT wearing masks for hours at a time because they have to eat or drink...people are generally compliant with mask wearing in malls, grocery stores other retail outlets. Lots of stores ARE limiting the number of people allowed in at once. Whataboutism once again...but this time you've got it all wrong...once again.

The information being fed to me makes sense to me as a rational, responsible adult. It's not me blindly believing anything. Just because you choose to not believe what's out there doesn't make you somehow more knowledgeable or smarter.


It makes me a fool because people like you must be coming out on top thanks to covid :) quite the opposite for myself personally but i cant speak for you.

Live life the way you feel is best and Il do the same cheers.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread ***(700 new cases 9/28) 

Post#178 » by mtcan » Wed Sep 30, 2020 12:48 am

BigBoss23 wrote:
mtcan wrote:
BigBoss23 wrote:
Youre right about August I stand corrected.

You have yet to show one link or fact that supports the notion that besides private social gatherings, that the current resurgence is in large part to specific venues. It may seem logical that we are getting more cases now in late September than August, but its just an assumed correlation.

We have had news reports of cases at many stores in the mall and all walks of life. Why dont you bring up all the strip club cases and show all of us that the numbers are directly because of this sort of venue and that its not happening elsewhere? Its called scapegoating.

But hey go ahead and never question the authorities they must know whats best even though many have questioned whether the cure is better than the disease.


You obviously didn't read any of the links I posted above. There are multiple positive cases in each of those bars and that includes employees who were there on a regular basis. And there were roughly 1700 people that might have been in contact with these employees. And reports are that mask wearing and social distancing was minimal if nonexistent in these establishments. And correlation really is causation because it's NOT a coincidence that since restaurants and bars have been allowed to open...cases have gone up. There is NO other cause because grocery stores have been open throughout the pandemic and lots of retail stores have opened since stage 2 in July. The BIG difference between stable and low numbers from June and July and skyrocketing numbers in September is bars/strip clubs and restaurants allowing people inside. And I DO include night clubs/strip clubs along with bars and indoor dining at restaurants as major culprits leading to this spike in case. They all need to close their doors to people spending prolonged period of time inside or severely restrict until case numbers go down. I absolutely blame strip clubs as part of the problem. Don't get it twisted.

And there ARE reports of positive cases in malls, grocery stores and other businesses...but unlike a restaurant and bars where patrons are NOT wearing masks for hours at a time because they have to eat or drink...people are generally compliant with mask wearing in malls, grocery stores other retail outlets. Lots of stores ARE limiting the number of people allowed in at once. Whataboutism once again...but this time you've got it all wrong...once again.

The information being fed to me makes sense to me as a rational, responsible adult. It's not me blindly believing anything. Just because you choose to not believe what's out there doesn't make you somehow more knowledgeable or smarter.


It makes me a fool because people like you must be coming out on top thanks to covid :) quite the opposite for myself personally but i cant speak for you.

Live life the way you feel is best and Il do the same cheers.

Buddy...no one is coming out on top during a pandemic. I miss life as it was before the pandemic. But it is what it is.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread ***(700 new cases 9/28) 

Post#179 » by BigBoss23 » Wed Sep 30, 2020 12:50 am

mtcan wrote:
BigBoss23 wrote:
mtcan wrote:
You obviously didn't read any of the links I posted above. There are multiple positive cases in each of those bars and that includes employees who were there on a regular basis. And there were roughly 1700 people that might have been in contact with these employees. And reports are that mask wearing and social distancing was minimal if nonexistent in these establishments. And correlation really is causation because it's NOT a coincidence that since restaurants and bars have been allowed to open...cases have gone up. There is NO other cause because grocery stores have been open throughout the pandemic and lots of retail stores have opened since stage 2 in July. The BIG difference between stable and low numbers from June and July and skyrocketing numbers in September is bars/strip clubs and restaurants allowing people inside. And I DO include night clubs/strip clubs along with bars and indoor dining at restaurants as major culprits leading to this spike in case. They all need to close their doors to people spending prolonged period of time inside or severely restrict until case numbers go down. I absolutely blame strip clubs as part of the problem. Don't get it twisted.

And there ARE reports of positive cases in malls, grocery stores and other businesses...but unlike a restaurant and bars where patrons are NOT wearing masks for hours at a time because they have to eat or drink...people are generally compliant with mask wearing in malls, grocery stores other retail outlets. Lots of stores ARE limiting the number of people allowed in at once. Whataboutism once again...but this time you've got it all wrong...once again.

The information being fed to me makes sense to me as a rational, responsible adult. It's not me blindly believing anything. Just because you choose to not believe what's out there doesn't make you somehow more knowledgeable or smarter.


It makes me a fool because people like you must be coming out on top thanks to covid :) quite the opposite for myself personally but i cant speak for you.

Live life the way you feel is best and Il do the same cheers.

Buddy...no one is coming out on top during a pandemic. I miss life as it was before the pandemic. But it is what it is.


Maybe not for everyday things that impact everyone, but some industries and the WFH crowd have definitely come out on top.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread ***(700 new cases 9/28) 

Post#180 » by mtcan » Wed Sep 30, 2020 12:54 am

BigBoss23 wrote:
mtcan wrote:
BigBoss23 wrote:
It makes me a fool because people like you must be coming out on top thanks to covid :) quite the opposite for myself personally but i cant speak for you.

Live life the way you feel is best and Il do the same cheers.

Buddy...no one is coming out on top during a pandemic. I miss life as it was before the pandemic. But it is what it is.


Maybe not for everyday things that impact everyone, but some industries and the WFH crowd have definitely come out on top.

I'm not on the conspiracy theory bandwagon so its just an unfortunate situation and yes...the makers of PPE and vaccines are winning big...but I'm sure they would rather not given all that has happened.

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