Around the NBA - playoff bubble continued

[Montmorencie]

facts

literally had 3 HOF in there prime and a soon to be all-star in Rondo and he won...what an achievement

Doc and D'Antoni are the most overrated coaches in NBA history!

I will give Dantoni credit for kinda revolutionizing the pace and space offensive game which the NBA is all about. But in terms of that translating to winning basketball it hasn't been there because defense still wins in the NBA when it matters in the playoffs.

To be fair, D'Antony got to play in defense with Stat, Nash, Carmelo, Stat again, Harden and Westbrook. For the year and a half they got CP3 commanding their defense and team in general, they played really good defense. Would have beaten the biggest offensive juggernaut of all time with D hadn't been for that injury.

[spree2kawhi]

So which coaches aren't overrated?

Pop, Kerr, Spo, Carlisle, Nurse, Malone, Snyder and Monty Williams. These are the good coaches in NBA right now.

I understand what you mean, but others are more qualified to judge. I don't think we're know enough about their expertise.

With mark Jackson I know he's a bum because i can actually listen to him a lot...

[knicks94]

The Miami Heat are going to be declared champions after they win game 1.

[spree2kawhi]

Doc and D'Antoni are the most overrated coaches in NBA history!

I will give Dantoni credit for kinda revolutionizing the pace and space offensive game which the NBA is all about. But in terms of that translating to winning basketball it hasn't been there because defense still wins in the NBA when it matters in the playoffs.

To be fair, D'Antony got to play in defense with Stat, Nash, Carmelo, Stat again, Harden and Westbrook. For the year and a half they got CP3 commanding their defense and team in general, they played really good defense. Would have beaten the biggest offensive juggernaut of all time with D hadn't been for that injury.

To be fair they would have never beaten the Warriors, not even with a healthy Chris Paul, and it wasn't ever to be expected of D'Antoni. He's a very good coach and all that lukewarm nonsense on here is ridiculous. That guy knows the game, single-handedly influenced it actually and has been a staple in the playoffs for decades.

Now to really be fair to him, he never had a championship caliber team 1-12. Period.

[3toheadmelo]

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[HEZI]

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He never had any reason to come to the Knicks and if he was going to leave LA after they win a chip this year he's far more likely to go back home to Chicago than go to the Knicks. He was never coming

[dakomish23]

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Wow

[Montmorencie]

I will give Dantoni credit for kinda revolutionizing the pace and space offensive game which the NBA is all about. But in terms of that translating to winning basketball it hasn't been there because defense still wins in the NBA when it matters in the playoffs.

To be fair, D'Antony got to play in defense with Stat, Nash, Carmelo, Stat again, Harden and Westbrook. For the year and a half they got CP3 commanding their defense and team in general, they played really good defense. Would have beaten the biggest offensive juggernaut of all time with D hadn't been for that injury.

To be fair they would have never beaten the Warriors, not even with a healthy Chris Paul, and it wasn't ever to be expected of D'Antoni. He's a very good coach and all that lukewarm nonsense on here is ridiculous. That guy knows the game, single-handedly influenced it actually and has been a staple in the playoffs for decades.

Now to really be fair to him, he never had a championship caliber team 1-12. Period.

What on Earth are you talking about. They were up 3-2 and they lost in single digits with shooting from 3 less than 10%. One clutch three in the right moment and they were champions.

[Chanel Bomber]

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Not only did it never make any sense that a player of his caliber would join the Knicks (and leave LA while playing with LeBron), it was also never in his DNA to carry a franchise on his back, let alone the Knicks.

From his lack of success in New Orleans, the on/off numbers with and without LeBron (correct me if I'm wrong), the fact that he forced a trade to join LeBron knowing full-well he wouldn't be the man and just his overall demeanor, it was never part of his personality. He doesn't have the ego, nor the all or nothing mindset to risk self-destruction for a chance at immortality. Same reason KD was never coming here.

He's right where he needs to be. The best second option of all-time to the second best player of all-time. Some players have had it worse.

[thebuzzardman]

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Not only did it never make any sense that a player of his caliber would join the Knicks (and leave LA while playing with LeBron), it was also never in his DNA to carry a franchise on his back, let alone the Knicks.

From his lack of success in New Orleans, the on/off numbers with and without LeBron (correct me if I'm wrong), the fact that he forced a trade to join LeBron knowing full-well he wouldn't be the man and just his overall demeanor, it was never part of his personality. He doesn't have the ego, nor the all or nothing mindset to risk self-destruction for a chance at immortality. Same reason KD was never coming here.

He's right where he needs to be. The best second option of all-time to the second best player of all-time. Some players have had it worse.

So, basically, AD lacks killer instinct, KAT lacks killer instinct, and we brought the coach who coached them up the most to work with Mitch. Solid.

[3toheadmelo]

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Not only did it never make any sense that a player of his caliber would join the Knicks (and leave LA while playing with LeBron), it was also never in his DNA to carry a franchise on his back, let alone the Knicks.

From his lack of success in New Orleans, the on/off numbers with and without LeBron (correct me if I'm wrong), the fact that he forced a trade to join LeBron knowing full-well he wouldn't be the man and just his overall demeanor, it was never part of his personality. He doesn't have the ego, nor the all or nothing mindset to risk self-destruction for a chance at immortality. Same reason KD was never coming here.

He's right where he needs to be. The best second option of all-time to the second best player of all-time. Some players have had it worse.

I don’t think AD is soft like KD at all. I think you’re reaching there. And the Pelicans has had tons of injuries when he was there along with terrible coaching. So it’s not all of his fault they weren’t that great. When did they did make the playoffs however, he was dominating.

[dakomish23]

You can end the AD dream now

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Not only did it never make any sense that a player of his caliber would join the Knicks (and leave LA while playing with LeBron), it was also never in his DNA to carry a franchise on his back, let alone the Knicks.

From his lack of success in New Orleans, the on/off numbers with and without LeBron (correct me if I'm wrong), the fact that he forced a trade to join LeBron knowing full-well he wouldn't be the man and just his overall demeanor, it was never part of his personality. He doesn't have the ego, nor the all or nothing mindset to risk self-destruction for a chance at immortality. Same reason KD was never coming here.

He's right where he needs to be. The best second option of all-time to the second best player of all-time. Some players have had it worse.

I want to visit the alternative universe where AD didn't outplay Jokic and see your comments.

[Chanel Bomber]

You can end the AD dream now

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Not only did it never make any sense that a player of his caliber would join the Knicks (and leave LA while playing with LeBron), it was also never in his DNA to carry a franchise on his back, let alone the Knicks.

From his lack of success in New Orleans, the on/off numbers with and without LeBron (correct me if I'm wrong), the fact that he forced a trade to join LeBron knowing full-well he wouldn't be the man and just his overall demeanor, it was never part of his personality. He doesn't have the ego, nor the all or nothing mindset to risk self-destruction for a chance at immortality. Same reason KD was never coming here.

He's right where he needs to be. The best second option of all-time to the second best player of all-time. Some players have had it worse.

I don’t think AD is soft like KD at all. I think you’re reaching there. And the Pelicans has had tons of injuries when he was there along with terrible coaching. So it’s not all of his fault they weren’t that great. When did they did make the playoffs however, he was dominating.

I didn't suggest that AD was soft like KD at all.

My point is that neither one of them is a leader. I think both are followers.

Melo for all his faults - and regardless of the fact that he was not on their level - wanted to die on his terms. And he did so in New York. KD and AD decided to join a a pack they were not the leader of to live and enhance their resume (AD at least has the decency not to pretend otherwise).

I don't see how this isn't obvious honestly, it's really not controversial at all.

[3toheadmelo]

Not only did it never make any sense that a player of his caliber would join the Knicks (and leave LA while playing with LeBron), it was also never in his DNA to carry a franchise on his back, let alone the Knicks.

From his lack of success in New Orleans, the on/off numbers with and without LeBron (correct me if I'm wrong), the fact that he forced a trade to join LeBron knowing full-well he wouldn't be the man and just his overall demeanor, it was never part of his personality. He doesn't have the ego, nor the all or nothing mindset to risk self-destruction for a chance at immortality. Same reason KD was never coming here.

He's right where he needs to be. The best second option of all-time to the second best player of all-time. Some players have had it worse.

I don’t think AD is soft like KD at all. I think you’re reaching there. And the Pelicans has had tons of injuries when he was there along with terrible coaching. So it’s not all of his fault they weren’t that great. When did they did make the playoffs however, he was dominating.

I didn't suggest that AD was soft like KD at all.

My point is that neither one of them is a leader. I think both are followers.

Melo for all his faults - and regardless of the fact that he was not on their level - wanted to die on his terms. And he did so in New York. KD and AD decided to join a a pack they were not the leader of to live and enhance their resume. AD at least has the decency not to pretend otherwise.

I don't see how this isn't obvious honestly, it's really not controversial at all.

AD put the Knicks on his list of teams he wanted to get traded to though. KD wanted no part of the Knicks. You hating too hard on AD

[Chanel Bomber]

I don’t think AD is soft like KD at all. I think you’re reaching there. And the Pelicans has had tons of injuries when he was there along with terrible coaching. So it’s not all of his fault they weren’t that great. When did they did make the playoffs however, he was dominating.

I didn't suggest that AD was soft like KD at all.

My point is that neither one of them is a leader. I think both are followers.

Melo for all his faults - and regardless of the fact that he was not on their level - wanted to die on his terms. And he did so in New York. KD and AD decided to join a a pack they were not the leader of to live and enhance their resume. AD at least has the decency not to pretend otherwise.

I don't see how this isn't obvious honestly, it's really not controversial at all.

AD put the Knicks on his list of teams he wanted to get traded to though. KD wanted no part of the Knicks. You hating too hard on AD

It was just a PR move to make it seem he wasn't forcing his way to LA and to put the blame on New Orleans (instead of him not only for wanting out but specifically for wanting to go to Los Angeles).

Come on melo, you're smarter than this bro

[3toheadmelo]

I didn't suggest that AD was soft like KD at all.

My point is that neither one of them is a leader. I think both are followers.

Melo for all his faults - and regardless of the fact that he was not on their level - wanted to die on his terms. And he did so in New York. KD and AD decided to join a a pack they were not the leader of to live and enhance their resume. AD at least has the decency not to pretend otherwise.

I don't see how this isn't obvious honestly, it's really not controversial at all.

AD put the Knicks on his list of teams he wanted to get traded to though. KD wanted no part of the Knicks. You hating too hard on AD

It was just a PR move to make it seem he wasn't forcing his way to LA and to put the blame on New Orleans (instead of him not only for wanting out but specifically for wanting to go to Los Angeles).

Come on melo, you're smarter than this bro

Bruh you reaching like crazy the AD hate is strong within you lol