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Some great stuff on twitter. Samuel should be the moderator for the next debate! Sorry for the language in advance, hope it's ok!
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Fury wrote:?s=20
This really cannot do anything but damage his chances, particularly after Biden eviscerated the Law & Order thingamajig by clearly stating he doesn't support defunding the police and that he supports prosecution of criminal behavior resulting from vandalism while simultaneously supporting peaceful protest
Trump is out of gas and still pumping that accelerator hard for his angry white male cult
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Clyde_Style wrote:Fury wrote:?s=20
This really cannot do anything but damage his chances, particularly after Biden eviscerated the Law & Order thingamajig by clearly stating he doesn't support defunding the police and that he supports prosecution of criminal behavior resulting from vandalism while simultaneously supporting peaceful protest
Trump is out of gas and still pumping that accelerator hard for his angry white male cult
He's had multiple opportunities to clarify some of his inflammatory remarks from last night and at least begin the process of backpedaling. His son was on CBS News after the debate and made mention that his father had some miscues that weren't intentional.
Him pivoting in the manner he did in the video today clearly shows how self-absorbed he is. I'm just curious to how big of a percentage these "white supremacists" are that vote(d) for him. It must be statistically significant since he doesn't seem to have any intention of denouncing any of these hate groups.
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Clyde_Style wrote:E-Balla wrote:Clyde_Style wrote:
Trump will go to prison for insurance fraud and tax evasion, but real justice would be to try and convict him of domestic terrorism.
He's been inciting crime since he got elected. Nobody ever brings up the Balitmore news room where staff were slaughtered by a crazy who was egged on by Trump calling the press the enemy of the people.
These lunatics ingest Trump's BS like he's their prophet and his message is to kill the opposition.
Trump is a terrorist
Trump won't go to prison. I give him a 0% chance of fairly winning the election, a 20% chance of throwing out enough ballots to get an EC win, a 20% chance of him contesting the results and the conservative SCOTUS giving him the election like they did Bush, and a 10% chance of him losing badly and just refusing to leave office while he lets his militias and secret federal police force take care of the protesters that will arise in the wake of that. There's too many people expecting Republicans to suddenly stop supporting his fascist tendencies.
Even Republicans who deliver our mail are insulted by what Trump and this creep DeJoy have done to the USPS. There are tens of thousands of mail carriers with eyes everywhere watching this process and it won't be so easy to dump bails of ballots into the river like some think. Those USPS employees have had their jobs and pensions threatened and are now an army of spies watching every move.
I understand your pessimism and I also expect violence, but I still think the votes will get counted and we will pull through. For Trump to steal this election when the margins are not that close would require major coordination by corrupt officials in enough swing states to doctor their vote counts down to a local level. And in most of those jurisdictions the Democrats hold the top position so even if some were that corrupt, you don't have the GOP in power in the places they'd need to pull that off.
If this was true we would've never had a second president Bush and we'd have a black woman governor. If you think the GOP isn't in power in enough states to change the results you haven't looked at a map lately. Like seriously 6% of mail in ballots are ALREADY discarded in the current system. With delays and flat out tampering that can easily be upped to 20% which is a big gap when Biden is looking at winning mail in ballots like 60-40 and Trump is looking to win in person ballots 55-45 according to polls.
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Clyde_Style wrote:Fury wrote:?s=20
This really cannot do anything but damage his chances, particularly after Biden eviscerated the Law & Order thingamajig by clearly stating he doesn't support defunding the police and that he supports prosecution of criminal behavior resulting from vandalism while simultaneously supporting peaceful protest
Trump is out of gas and still pumping that accelerator hard for his angry white male cult

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E-Balla wrote:Clyde_Style wrote:E-Balla wrote:Trump won't go to prison. I give him a 0% chance of fairly winning the election, a 20% chance of throwing out enough ballots to get an EC win, a 20% chance of him contesting the results and the conservative SCOTUS giving him the election like they did Bush, and a 10% chance of him losing badly and just refusing to leave office while he lets his militias and secret federal police force take care of the protesters that will arise in the wake of that. There's too many people expecting Republicans to suddenly stop supporting his fascist tendencies.
Even Republicans who deliver our mail are insulted by what Trump and this creep DeJoy have done to the USPS. There are tens of thousands of mail carriers with eyes everywhere watching this process and it won't be so easy to dump bails of ballots into the river like some think. Those USPS employees have had their jobs and pensions threatened and are now an army of spies watching every move.
I understand your pessimism and I also expect violence, but I still think the votes will get counted and we will pull through. For Trump to steal this election when the margins are not that close would require major coordination by corrupt officials in enough swing states to doctor their vote counts down to a local level. And in most of those jurisdictions the Democrats hold the top position so even if some were that corrupt, you don't have the GOP in power in the places they'd need to pull that off.
If this was true we would've never had a second president Bush and we'd have a black woman governor. If you think the GOP isn't in power in enough states to change the results you haven't looked at a map lately. Like seriously 6% of mail in ballots are ALREADY discarded in the current system. With delays and flat out tampering that can easily be upped to 20% which is a big gap when Biden is looking at winning mail in ballots like 60-40 and Trump is looking to win in person ballots 55-45 according to polls.
Abrams was robbed, no doubt. It is easier to do in a single state though.
Bush-Gore was razor tight so the real analogy there is more about SCOTUS which obviously is a real problem now
Not discounting your concerns, because they are legit
All I'm saying is Trump is free falling and the margins are probably going to be too wide to pull it off
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Cookies4Life wrote:Clyde_Style wrote:Fury wrote:?s=20
This really cannot do anything but damage his chances, particularly after Biden eviscerated the Law & Order thingamajig by clearly stating he doesn't support defunding the police and that he supports prosecution of criminal behavior resulting from vandalism while simultaneously supporting peaceful protest
Trump is out of gas and still pumping that accelerator hard for his angry white male cult
He's had multiple opportunities to clarify some of his inflammatory remarks from last night and at least begin the process of backpedaling. His son was on CBS News after the debate and made mention that his father had some miscues that weren't intentional.
Him pivoting in the manner he did in the video today clearly shows how self-absorbed he is. I'm just curious to how big of a percentage these "white supremacists" are that vote(d) for him. It must be statistically significant since he doesn't seem to have any intention of denouncing any of these hate groups.
Jr. is going to be found dead from cocaine abuse
Rick Santorum and Chris Christie were going all out to defend Trump last night. Santorum even got himself into a bind where he had to acknowledge white supremacists constitute Trump's core support. fk these fksticks
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Guano wrote:Clyde_Style wrote:Fury wrote:?s=20
This really cannot do anything but damage his chances, particularly after Biden eviscerated the Law & Order thingamajig by clearly stating he doesn't support defunding the police and that he supports prosecution of criminal behavior resulting from vandalism while simultaneously supporting peaceful protest
Trump is out of gas and still pumping that accelerator hard for his angry white male cult
If you're going to cite 2016 numbers, those percentages have clearly shifted away from Trump and towards Biden since then
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people in the future will remember last night’s circus as a historic milestone in the fall of the empire
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Guano wrote:Clyde_Style wrote:Fury wrote:?s=20
This really cannot do anything but damage his chances, particularly after Biden eviscerated the Law & Order thingamajig by clearly stating he doesn't support defunding the police and that he supports prosecution of criminal behavior resulting from vandalism while simultaneously supporting peaceful protest
Trump is out of gas and still pumping that accelerator hard for his angry white male cult
I wonder if Jews are considered white because Jews cleaned up for Clinton in 2016. AKA, the numbers could be even more stark.
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Clyde_Style wrote:E-Balla wrote:Clyde_Style wrote:
Even Republicans who deliver our mail are insulted by what Trump and this creep DeJoy have done to the USPS. There are tens of thousands of mail carriers with eyes everywhere watching this process and it won't be so easy to dump bails of ballots into the river like some think. Those USPS employees have had their jobs and pensions threatened and are now an army of spies watching every move.
I understand your pessimism and I also expect violence, but I still think the votes will get counted and we will pull through. For Trump to steal this election when the margins are not that close would require major coordination by corrupt officials in enough swing states to doctor their vote counts down to a local level. And in most of those jurisdictions the Democrats hold the top position so even if some were that corrupt, you don't have the GOP in power in the places they'd need to pull that off.
If this was true we would've never had a second president Bush and we'd have a black woman governor. If you think the GOP isn't in power in enough states to change the results you haven't looked at a map lately. Like seriously 6% of mail in ballots are ALREADY discarded in the current system. With delays and flat out tampering that can easily be upped to 20% which is a big gap when Biden is looking at winning mail in ballots like 60-40 and Trump is looking to win in person ballots 55-45 according to polls.
Abrams was robbed, no doubt. It is easier to do in a single state though.
Bush-Gore was razor tight so the real analogy there is more about SCOTUS which obviously is a real problem now
Not discounting your concerns, because they are legit
All I'm saying is Trump is free falling and the margins are probably going to be too wide to pull it off
Yeah but that's why he had no notions of attempting to win the vote and he's making it known he's hoping voter intimidation and tossing votes can bring it close enough for the SCOTUS to give it to him. Failing that he'll refuse to leave and let his paramilitary that he's already flexing the power of take care of the civil unrest. Any one of those things alone can't win it, but all together? We're doomed. Especially as docile as Dems are.
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Capn'O wrote:Guano wrote:Clyde_Style wrote:
This really cannot do anything but damage his chances, particularly after Biden eviscerated the Law & Order thingamajig by clearly stating he doesn't support defunding the police and that he supports prosecution of criminal behavior resulting from vandalism while simultaneously supporting peaceful protest
Trump is out of gas and still pumping that accelerator hard for his angry white male cult
I wonder if Jews are considered white because Jews cleaned up for Clinton in 2016. AKA, the numbers could be even more stark.
I posted that graph to show that it is not just "angry white males" that support this racist president.
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Clyde_Style wrote:Cookies4Life wrote:Clyde_Style wrote:
This really cannot do anything but damage his chances, particularly after Biden eviscerated the Law & Order thingamajig by clearly stating he doesn't support defunding the police and that he supports prosecution of criminal behavior resulting from vandalism while simultaneously supporting peaceful protest
Trump is out of gas and still pumping that accelerator hard for his angry white male cult
He's had multiple opportunities to clarify some of his inflammatory remarks from last night and at least begin the process of backpedaling. His son was on CBS News after the debate and made mention that his father had some miscues that weren't intentional.
Him pivoting in the manner he did in the video today clearly shows how self-absorbed he is. I'm just curious to how big of a percentage these "white supremacists" are that vote(d) for him. It must be statistically significant since he doesn't seem to have any intention of denouncing any of these hate groups.
Jr. is going to be found dead from cocaine abuse
Rick Santorum and Chris Christie were going all out to defend Trump last night. Santorum even got himself into a bind where he had to acknowledge white supremacists constitute Trump's core support. fk these fksticks
After "I don't wanna help black people" I'm wondering how Santorum still has a job. Then I remember Ollie North literally committed treason but Fox has him on to call Kaep unamerican.
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watching it at all is like watching Willy Hernangomez play defense
I never saw Willy do that.
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I actually didn't know that Cain died of Covid. Huh.
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Capn'O wrote:Guano wrote:Clyde_Style wrote:
This really cannot do anything but damage his chances, particularly after Biden eviscerated the Law & Order thingamajig by clearly stating he doesn't support defunding the police and that he supports prosecution of criminal behavior resulting from vandalism while simultaneously supporting peaceful protest
Trump is out of gas and still pumping that accelerator hard for his angry white male cult
I wonder if Jews are considered white because Jews cleaned up for Clinton in 2016. AKA, the numbers could be even more stark.
Who knows what QAnon thinks a jew is. Maybe they even think there are identifiable physical traits. I hope I don't run across any Proud Boys who know what my odor of chicken fat and pickles really means. Maybe they think it is a yamulke wearing South Park character. Perhaps us semites have dirty skin, not sure what the other side thinks we actually are.
But there is one thing I can guarantee which is I'm a part of a giant cabal that runs the world banking system simply because I'm so damn jewy. I didn't even have to ask to join. A black limousine just pulled up to my doorstep and when I stepped in there was George Soros greeting me with a flute of Dom Perignon and a spoonful of caviar
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E-Balla wrote:I'm still kinda shocked at how many neoliberals and so called revolutionary leftists are ignoring his obvious call to action... Like Trump is mobilizing his brownshirts, where's the political leaders openly calling for impeachment and squashing this before we end up the Weimar Republic 2.0.
Like at this point it's not even being overboard to say Trump came mask off, full 100% fascist, and it seems like no one with the power to do anything is taking it any type of seriously. Like why are they discussing Trump saying he will use the SCOTUS to take power regardless of the vote and calling on his brownshirts to murder people and guard the polls the same way we talked about him grabbing women by the pussy? Like one is vulgar and rape, the other is literally him openly saying he will and has already started a fascist takeover of the country.
That link Clyde_Style posted that Trump tweeted for his poll watchers is armyfortrump.com it's not even like it's not blatant. It's as open as open could be. Like seriously he should've been arrested by federal agents ON STAGE after saying that ****.
Like WTF is wrong with the American left? Are we as a collective just stupid and **** and deserving of this because at this point I feel like we must be.
The mask has been off since he gassed that group for a photo opp, imo.
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Capn'O wrote:I actually didn't know that Cain died of Covid. Huh.
Pretty quickly too, just weeks after Tulsa
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Clyde_Style wrote:chicken fat and pickles
I feel targeted.
I got a small island. It wasn't much of an ask but it was what I wanted.
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Capn'O wrote:E-Balla wrote:I'm still kinda shocked at how many neoliberals and so called revolutionary leftists are ignoring his obvious call to action... Like Trump is mobilizing his brownshirts, where's the political leaders openly calling for impeachment and squashing this before we end up the Weimar Republic 2.0.
Like at this point it's not even being overboard to say Trump came mask off, full 100% fascist, and it seems like no one with the power to do anything is taking it any type of seriously. Like why are they discussing Trump saying he will use the SCOTUS to take power regardless of the vote and calling on his brownshirts to murder people and guard the polls the same way we talked about him grabbing women by the pussy? Like one is vulgar and rape, the other is literally him openly saying he will and has already started a fascist takeover of the country.
That link Clyde_Style posted that Trump tweeted for his poll watchers is armyfortrump.com it's not even like it's not blatant. It's as open as open could be. Like seriously he should've been arrested by federal agents ON STAGE after saying that ****.
Like WTF is wrong with the American left? Are we as a collective just stupid and **** and deserving of this because at this point I feel like we must be.
The mask has been off since he gassed that group for a photo opp, imo.
That was a bad moment but it wasn't him saying he wouldn't leave office peacefully no matter what.









