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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#1841 » by threrf23 » Wed Sep 30, 2020 7:43 pm

Statistically Bane's four year college career seems very comparable to Anthony Morrow's four year college career - although he scored more efficiently, passed the ball a little bit more, and turned the ball over less.

He is also similar to Morrow in size and build and supposed limitations.

A better Anthony Morrow is not a bad player, def an upgrade over Semi. Would def take him at 47. At 30, not sure, I would personally be more inclined to go with Markus Howard who projects as possibly being a historically elite three point shooter, which would be valuable regardless of his size and defensive limitations.
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Post#1842 » by playa-hater » Wed Sep 30, 2020 8:26 pm

themoneyteam2 wrote:Please no to Aaron Nesmith but I'm confident he won't be the pick anyways since he adds nothing to the game other than spot up shooting.

If you want a spot up shooter go for Bane at 26 or 30


I like Bane, but we don't know if Bane will even be there.

But I can not dis-agree with you more on Nesmith. He is strongly built and can play switchable defense. the fact that he "can only shoot" is a blessing IMO. Won't demand the ball and will make teams pay for doubling up Tatum-Walker etc.. Just look at what Gary Trent Jr did for Portland when trapping Dame etc.. look how valuable JJ Reddick is and he doesn't have defense..

give me a wing who can knock down shots all day that can play good defense and day of the week.
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Post#1843 » by playa-hater » Wed Sep 30, 2020 8:28 pm

winsomme2 wrote:
JHTruth wrote:
winsomme2 wrote:Tyrell Terry is definitely moving into the lottery picture and this is good news for the Cs. Either as a pick or a trade asset the guy is a lethal shooter. It's an elite skill. If he's really 6'3", he's gonna rocket up the board.


Apparently not only is he 6'3" he also gained like 20 lbs. He's going to get serious looks in the lottery


Feels like we are looking at:

Patrick Williams
Kira Lewis
Saddiq Bey
Aaron Nesmith
Precious Achiuwa
Cole Anthony
Tyrese Maxey
Tyrell Terry

Anybody else would be a surprising rise or drop at 14. Still, there is a lot of talent there.


J Smith maybe??
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#1844 » by playa-hater » Wed Sep 30, 2020 8:36 pm

winsomme2 wrote:1 - Anthony Edwards
2 - James Wiseman
3 - LaMelo Ball
4 - Killian Hayes
5 - Deni Avdija
6 - Onyeka Okongwu
7 - Isaac Okoro
8 - Obi Toppin
9 - Devin Vassell
10 - Tyrese Haliburton
11 - Tyrell Terry
12 - Patrick Williams
13 - Kira Lewis Jr.

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Aaron Nesmith
Precious Achiuwa
Saddiq Bey

Tyrese Maxey
Cole Anthony

After looking at it today, I think that top 13 will be off the board before we pick at 14. Unfortunately, my top 3 will be gone if this is how it plays out. I can see lots of shuffling in that top group but they seem like a step above to me.

Out of that next group, I think I like Achiuwa the best. Not sure though. Need to think on it some more.


any of the 3 in bold for me.. please
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#1845 » by Disinformation » Wed Sep 30, 2020 8:39 pm

Thought that just popped in to my head: Has Ainge ever drafted an elite shooting prospect?
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Post#1846 » by captain green » Wed Sep 30, 2020 8:51 pm

I have a feeling 14 isn't where we will be picking, looking at 8 through the 11th now. Heard some noise.
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Post#1847 » by Curmudgeon » Wed Sep 30, 2020 8:51 pm

Disinformation wrote:Thought that just popped in to my head: Has Ainge ever drafted an elite shooting prospect?


Wasn't Carsten Edwards supposed to be that player?
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Post#1848 » by leper-con » Wed Sep 30, 2020 8:52 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:
Disinformation wrote:Thought that just popped in to my head: Has Ainge ever drafted an elite shooting prospect?


Wasn't Carsten Edwards supposed to be that player?



I think he saw eddy house in edwards.
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Post#1849 » by JHTruth » Wed Sep 30, 2020 8:53 pm

threrf23 wrote:Statistically Bane's four year college career seems very comparable to Anthony Morrow's four year college career - although he scored more efficiently, passed the ball a little bit more, and turned the ball over less.

He is also similar to Morrow in size and build and supposed limitations.

A better Anthony Morrow is not a bad player, def an upgrade over Semi. Would def take him at 47. At 30, not sure, I would personally be more inclined to go with Markus Howard who projects as possibly being a historically elite three point shooter, which would be valuable regardless of his size and defensive limitations.


Pass on the under-undersized PG. We already have two that can't see the floor..
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#1850 » by snowman » Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:04 pm

I have my wish for the 14th pick with Saddiq Bey over Aaron Nesmith. Much bigger, and a more all around player. Then go best pg left with the 26th, and big with the 30th.
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Post#1851 » by themoneyteam2 » Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:19 pm

playa-hater wrote:
themoneyteam2 wrote:Please no to Aaron Nesmith but I'm confident he won't be the pick anyways since he adds nothing to the game other than spot up shooting.

If you want a spot up shooter go for Bane at 26 or 30


I like Bane, but we don't know if Bane will even be there.

But I can not dis-agree with you more on Nesmith. He is strongly built and can play switchable defense. the fact that he "can only shoot" is a blessing IMO. Won't demand the ball and will make teams pay for doubling up Tatum-Walker etc.. Just look at what Gary Trent Jr did for Portland when trapping Dame etc.. look how valuable JJ Reddick is and he doesn't have defense..

give me a wing who can knock down shots all day that can play good defense and day of the week.


I mean if he turns out to be JJ Redick that's great obviously. That's the best case scenario however and his sample size is awfully limited in shooting which is a question mark for me. I'm just worried about his lack of creation ability and his assist to turnover ratio. He's a designated spot up shooter without a reliable pull up shooting ability which scares me.

I could absolutely be wrong about him but those things scare me right now. Obviously if he turns into a Korver or JJ Redick that's a win for any team that drafts him
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Post#1852 » by themoneyteam2 » Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:20 pm

Disinformation wrote:Thought that just popped in to my head: Has Ainge ever drafted an elite shooting prospect?


RJ Hunter is the last "shooter" he drafted that I can remember but his 3PT% in college was awfully mediocre.
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Post#1853 » by jfs1000d » Thu Oct 1, 2020 12:59 am

Half-Full wrote:I just checked out the scouting reports on Desmond Bane, and he definitely raised my eyebrows. He has great range on his 3-point shot, and looks to have a solid defensive game. Right now he is projected to go in the second round, and may be gone before the Celtics pick at 47. Do the Celtics value him enough to use pick 30? The fact that he spoke to the Celtics indicates they have some interest. No question we could use a shooter.

Take the shooter at 30. Or just want shooters. We can’t get any bigs that will play.

Let Edwards and waters fight for a spot.


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Post#1854 » by jfs1000d » Thu Oct 1, 2020 1:19 am

Just draft shooters.

Let Waters, Edwards, and whomever you get battle it out.

Wannamaker and Semi move on, though I like Wannamker.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#1855 » by batabatuta » Thu Oct 1, 2020 3:00 am

I hope Danny remembers that a lot of the Celtics' 17 banners are won because of their big men. Russell, Parish, Mchale, KG, Sanders, Maxwell etc...
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Post#1856 » by TheMartian » Thu Oct 1, 2020 3:16 am

Lakers are showing that size matters. Shore up the frontcourt.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#1857 » by themoneyteam2 » Thu Oct 1, 2020 4:35 am

captain green wrote:I have a feeling 14 isn't where we will be picking, looking at 8 through the 11th now. Heard some noise.


Who do you think they would trade up for?
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#1858 » by winsomme2 » Thu Oct 1, 2020 11:18 am

themoneyteam2 wrote:
captain green wrote:I have a feeling 14 isn't where we will be picking, looking at 8 through the 11th now. Heard some noise.


Who do you think they would trade up for?


I would think the prizes in that range would be Haliburton and Toppin. Both underrated prospects IMO.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#1859 » by snowman » Thu Oct 1, 2020 11:48 am

In watching Danny draft over the years, and they're more than I care to say, I have noticed a few trends.

1) Danny will pick a player lacking on incredible measurables like height and weight, and pick someone with a higher BBIQ.
2) Danny puts a ton of faith in analytics, and doesn't go by the "eye ball test" . Very rarely does he chose with his gut feeling.
3) When Danny picks inside the top 10, he usually hit a home run, outside the top 10 has not been very good.

This is why Danny has chosen smaller point guards and power forwards, when choosing players in these categories in the past. These players usually don't have the physical attributes to over power opponents, but must rely on the court awareness to succeed. As for the inside the top ten vs outside the top ten, as mentioned above, certainly the talent level is much more apparent along with the analytics being there with a top ten drafted player. My concern is not that Danny has not hit on even one all star when picking outside the top 10. There are many GM's that could be said of. He has picked a couple good role players over the years.

My chief concern is that in the 10 year period, from 2008 through 2017, ( I use this year because players drafted during 2018,and 2019 are still in play) Tatum, Brown, Smart, Ojeyele, Ante, Zizic, Abdel Nader, Terry Rozier, E'Twaun Moore and Avery Bradley are the only players drafted that are even still in the NBA. That's 9 players total, out of 29 draft picks, 14 of them 1st round picks. If you eliminate the 3 picks that were top 6, (Tatum, Brown and Smart) He has picked 6 players out of 26 draft picks that are still playing in the NBA, and none of them on this team. Of the 14 total 1st round picks, 8 of them are out of the league, and a 9th probably in his last year in Zizic, only because of the rookie contract he signed. That is a poor record, I don't care how you spin it.

With us being over the lux cap for the foreseeable future, Danny had better get this draft right.
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Post#1860 » by BillessuR6 » Thu Oct 1, 2020 12:01 pm

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