NBA FINALS Game 2: The Lebrons vs Miami 10/2/20 9PM EST ABC

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[Shewasfly]

HeatingUp3 wrote:
HEATVols865 wrote:
HeatingUp3 wrote:
LeBron pedding his stats to get that MVP from Davis. Just like he did in 2011 ending up losing us the series.

He choked that year. Cost us a plucking title after making fun of Dirk


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He was trying to padd his stats. Game 2 was the key. We had big lead and as Dallas came back we kept goin to him. He kept demanding the ball while the hot hand was clearly D-Wade. Scoring 30 something points. He couldn't bare the fact of not beeing the FMVP in his first CHIP. Wade noticed that and did what had to be done.


I remember that game vividly. We were up like 16 points with 4 minutes left after Wade hit a big 3 and it just went downhill afterwards. Blowing a game in the Finals is unforgivable. We did win game 3 though but the damage was done.

How interesting this was mentioned in post game thread, in the post game presser LeBron brought up this game and how it burned him seeing game 2 lead slip away.

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Obviously he is on the opposing team, but this talk about him sabotaging the game/series is ludicrous.

Lol you all do not work in PR so you do not know how media trained LeBron is. He is bringing this up because he knows this is the second situation he's faced where he's on a team that could win a championship where he would not be the clear cut FMVP. He will be planting seeds to steal the FMVP the entire series, trust.

LeBron absolutely sabotaged D-Wade in 2011. He knew his first championship had to be with him as the man, and there was no way to do that with Wade getting the award over him. It was especially pertinent for him since that same year there was so much talk about him going to Wade's team. He would have rather lose, which he insured we did, knowing that he had plenty time left in his career to make it up, than have that happen.

[al bondiga]

Stop it ! we won they East because we we're not intimidated, last night I think only a couple of players and spo where not intimidated... we have to face reality for this finals , the first game was very important , the only chance we have is doing something that nobody expects or going big, playing Zone differently and hoping for a great offencive game every night

[CoolD]

I think we need to go big, either start Olynyk, Leonard. I know Chris Silva is hurt, but we can use another big body to slap dirty Dwight Howard’s mug, if he was available, this would be one series were he could be used.

We should also think about starting Igy on LeBron, set the tone, that we are going to go in junk the game up mode.

I feel bad that Dragic got hurt, he was playing his best basketball in these playoffs. Hopefully Nunn, goes back to 40 point game regular season Nunn.

[Heat3]

All I know is Miami won a playoff game yesterday...

[Shewasfly]

Since the other thread was close in the middle of the night.

3ballbomber wrote:
It's amazing when a team achieves such massive success knocking out a more talented #1 & 3 squads, making great adjustments, fantastic rotational decisions & playing w/ so much attention to detail to advance to the NBA finals nobody has anything negative to say. But after 1 loss the criticism comes in. No Dragic, No Bam & a hobbled Butler so unable for opportunity to go on our customary comeback. But in spite of those absences were still able to make it a 12pt game near the end. And spite of our starting line up we were able to go up early by 13pts. We didn't have problems w/ their height they couldn't miss a damn 3 pointer - a team that is 21st in the bubble in 3s are making it raining. That's an anomaly that i guarantee will not happen again. If anything it was our lack of aggression guarding the 3pt line more than any issues w/ Height. At that point it was majority jump shots from LA.

First of all, Miami had the right personnel to knock out the Bucks since they had the players to slow down Giannis and build a wall so he couldn't just attack the basket(since he's a limited shooter from the outside), also B.Lopez was used a ton as a 3pt spacer, not sitting down in the low block(which he was very effective at when he went there). Boston's weak point on their roster has been their center position while also playing smaller players at PF, so Miami was fine with playing an undersized center(although very good) and going small, it did not hurt them. The Lakers are completely different animal with their size and the QUALITY of that size. AD who is playing a lot of PF is bigger than Bam, then they usually have a good rebounding center on the court with him who easily got rebounds. MIAMI WAS OUT REBOUNDED 36 to 54. I'm hoping that Spoelstra decided to try small ball for just the first game to see how it would work, it really didn't when going against 2 bigs who are bigger and probably stronger than Bam.

All I'm advocating is going back to Bam at PF and Leonard/Olynyk at C ONLY WHEN LA has 2 bigs on the court, if they go small Bam and some Olynyk/Leonard is fine at center. LA is different because AD is a superstar big who can hit from the outside.

As good as Bam is, at this point in time AD is better and LA can neutralize Bam, something Boston couldn't do, hence the breakout series. If Bam is neutralized to an extent and Dragic really shouldn't be playing, the scoring has to come mostly from Butler, Robinson, Herro and now Nunn who are capable of putting up 20 if not 30 point games but 3 of those guys are very inexperienced and are going to have to try to do it in THE FINALS. I believe Herro and Nunn should be fine, Robinson and his confidence(lack of) really could be the problem, he scored 0 points in 27 minutes in game 1.

On LAs 3pt shooting, outside of LeBron and AD(who went 4-8 from 3pt range), the rest of the team went 11-30 from 3pt range which is just under 37% and so far in the playoffs Morris is hitting 45%, KCP is hitting 41%, Rondo 41%, Green 36% LeBron 36%, AD 38%, Kuzman 31%, LA was hot early on(11-17 3pt 1st half) but cooled off(4-21 from 3pt range in the 2nd half) and still it wasn't a close game. Hopefully the jitters effected Miami's younger players way worse than LA's vets and with that, much better games from this point on.

Did LA show any need to double team yesterday?

No!!!

We did all that double teaming and AD still got his. Same with LeBron, though we had a decent game plan for him throughout the game and he just ended up stat padding his way to his points at the end.

We have to stay home on their shooters. If LeBron and AD are going to score 50 points each to beat us, fine, but they will wear themselves out over the series to do it. But we cannot give up wide open threes to their shooters AND let AD and LeBron gets theirs, which we know they will. LA is not a great passing team or one with a lot of off ball movement except a few players, so it'd actually be hard for them to find an open shot if we made them figure it out and work for it instead of giving it to them. We made the offense so easy for the Lakers all around.

[Heat3]

LeBron absolutely sabotaged D-Wade in 2011. He knew his first championship had to be with him as the man, and there was no way to do that with Wade getting the award over him. It was especially pertinent for him since that same year there was so much talk about him going to Wade's team. He would have rather lose, which he insured we did, knowing that he had plenty time left in his career to make it up, than have that happen.

We just need to let AD have a historic Finals where he’s a lock for MVP.....then Lebron will take care of the rest

[Shewasfly]

LeBron absolutely sabotaged D-Wade in 2011. He knew his first championship had to be with him as the man, and there was no way to do that with Wade getting the award over him. It was especially pertinent for him since that same year there was so much talk about him going to Wade's team. He would have rather lose, which he insured we did, knowing that he had plenty time left in his career to make it up, than have that happen.

We just need to let AD have a historic Finals where he’s a lock for MVP.....then Lebron will take care of the rest

Sarcasm or not, its true *shrug*
I wonder if Spo has it in him to be petty like that But its actually a good strategy.

LeBron absolutely would begin to force the issue to try to match/supercede AD's performance and blow it up for them

[Heat3]

yeah I think it's final season, though it may have two parts like season 3

i'm excite for it

The hell is AoT?

attack on titan

Never cared about anime, but a friend suggested I see this on Hulu and it was so damn good.

[al bondiga]

start bam, O, leon, butl, djj... 6min. then replace every one but Jimmy... 2quarter the same but bam stays. 2nd half the same but reverse. Exploit every matchup offensively and live with the results

We have to do something a bit crazy like this in order to stand a chance, please spo believe or we will be swept

[Zman80000]

New stragety boys.
I will watch Game 2 after not watching Game 1.
Probably Game 1 OP's fault in the end.

I will get this how much to watch thing figured out so Heat win.
Trust me, I'm not a doctor.

[Trapstar3]

Oh boy..

[AirP.]

Game 1
ORTG, DRTG, ORTG-DRTGs

Kendrick Nunn, 155,122,+33
Jimmy Butler, 135,119,+16
Jae Crowder, 132,120,+12
Andre Iguodala,117,122,-5
Kelly Olynyk, 83,112,-29
Goran Dragić, 78,110,-32
Bam Adebayo, 89,125,-36
Tyler Herro, 71,124,-53
Solomon Hill, 64,123,-59
Derrick Jones, 59,124,-65
Duncan Robinson,0,124,-124

[AirP.]

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[nma305]

Starters:

Leonard on Dwight ( we need him to rebound and keep Dwight off the offensive boards)

Bam on Ad

Jimmy on Lebron ( Jimmy being the point guard)

Duncan on Green

Herro on Caldwell-Pope ( Herro doesn’t have to handle the point since he’s been shaky with his ball handling)


Crowder, Iggy, Olynyk,Nunn, JJ ..second unit

And of course Dragic if he is available.

I think this is our best chance

[Heat3]

Game 1
ORTG, DRTG, ORTG-DRTGs

Jimmy Butler, 135,119,+16
Jae Crowder, 132,120,+12
Andre Iguodala,117,122,-5
Kelly Olynyk, 83,112,-29
Goran Dragić, 78,110,-32
Kendrick Nunn, 155,122,-33
Bam Adebayo, 89,125,-36
Tyler Herro, 71,124,-53
Solomon Hill, 64,123,-59
Derrick Jones, 59,124,-65
Duncan Robinson,0,124,-124

+33

[AirP.]

Game 1
ORTG, DRTG, ORTG-DRTGs

Kendrick Nunn, 155,122,+33 <-Added
Jimmy Butler, 135,119,+16
Jae Crowder, 132,120,+12
Andre Iguodala,117,122,-5
Kelly Olynyk, 83,112,-29
Goran Dragić, 78,110,-32
Kendrick Nunn, 155,122,-33 <-Removed
Bam Adebayo, 89,125,-36
Tyler Herro, 71,124,-53
Solomon Hill, 64,123,-59
Derrick Jones, 59,124,-65
Duncan Robinson,0,124,-124

+33

Thanks, I copied it over from VS Code and had _ instead of +/- for some reason, since I was use to typing - I put it there for him too, my mistake! It's fixed in the original post.

[nma305]

If Bam can’t go we are going to have to dust off UD. At least I know UD will be ready to fight. He should plenty of legs too once he gets the rust off. We have to have some type of toughness inside to make it competitive.

[Lord Hades]

God. Dammit.

I mean, we have enough.

[Zasterror]

Saw it coming.
I'm just interested in seeing how Nunn and Herro plays in this game. I'm actually excited for it.