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Re: Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season 

Post#1961 » by gambakupu » Tue Sep 29, 2020 4:48 am

TheNetsFan wrote:NOladipo.

If there's a Pacer that would fit well here that is looking for a way out, it's Turner.


I'm not big on Turner, also $18M for three more years
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Re: Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season 

Post#1962 » by Claud » Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:12 pm

We should just resign Harris this offseason, then resign Spencer the next.

Unless you're talking about bringing a true superstar level player back, there's not much reason to make a move.

Holiday, Oladipo, Beal = meh.

Not sure they move the needle when comparing the roster as it currently is.

We have our 2 superstars in KD and Kyrie. That's the hardest part.

Now let's see how well the core we've been developing over the years(Dinwiddie, Harris, Fro, Levert, etc) meshes together with them.

Kyrie/LeVert/Harris/KD/Fro
Dinwiddie/TLC/Prince/Kurucs/DJ

That's a solid 7-8 player rotation come playoffs time.

We should target another 3&D Wing + defensive guard to add some depth.

I believe CLAXTON will have a breakout year barring injuries. The kid oozes talent and can give us a lift as PF/C.

Prince and Kurucs are on the same boat. Neither one guaranteed to be part of the playoffs rotation since both are inconsistent AF.

If we can add a vet to play in their position it would be ideal. Hell, I'd try Claxton as KD back up. I believe he has it.

Guys like Chiozza, Anderson, Musa , Martin are D-League players. Decent depth players but nothing special yet.

JCrossover and Tyler Johnson are different stories though. TJ gave a solid boost in the bubble and prefer him over Chiozza.

Crawford though, he's a vet and well respected by KD/Kyrie and the league. Tough choice.

Overall our current roster should be good enough for top 4 seed in the east barring major injuries.

It all depends on KD. If KD is 100%, watch out.
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Post#1963 » by drchaos » Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:38 pm

I would like to see a trade where we send out 3-4 bubble players / draft picks for a couple guys that can get more minutes here.

Otherwise we should probably keep the core together until the trade deadline.
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Post#1965 » by kamaze » Tue Sep 29, 2020 4:01 pm

7footMONSTER wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:Oladipo wants out of Indiana. I think we should jump on it.

Dinwiddie, Lance Thomas, FRP to Pacers. They can have Musa too if they want.

Oladipo is a good defender and good shooter. Would fit well at the 2.

Kyrie
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Jordan

Levert as 6th man


Dinwiddie is the perfect PG for us. 6’6, can shoot, can put the ball on the floor, super high IQ, great at running PnR and making plays for teammates, low maintenance, can guard 1-3, already has great chemistry with everyone on the team.

Trading him in my opinion would be a huge mistake. 6’6 point guards with his skill set and IQ are exactly what we will need deep in the playoffs.


I agree hes our homegrown guy. Can't make another Sean Livingston mistake.
I liked him more than Dlo personally and last year he picked up the slack when Kyrie was out for 60 games.
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Re: Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season 

Post#1966 » by kamaze » Tue Sep 29, 2020 4:18 pm

kamaze wrote:
7footMONSTER wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:Oladipo wants out of Indiana. I think we should jump on it.

Dinwiddie, Lance Thomas, FRP to Pacers. They can have Musa too if they want.

Oladipo is a good defender and good shooter. Would fit well at the 2.

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Harris
KD
Jordan

Levert as 6th man


Dinwiddie is the perfect PG for us. 6’6, can shoot, can put the ball on the floor, super high IQ, great at running PnR and making plays for teammates, low maintenance, can guard 1-3, already has great chemistry with everyone on the team.

Trading him in my opinion would be a huge mistake. 6’6 point guards with his skill set and IQ are exactly what we will need deep in the playoffs.


I agree hes our homegrown guy. Can't make another Sean Livingston mistake.
I liked him more than Dlo personally and last year he picked up the slack when Kyrie was out for 60 games.


The Sean Livingston mistake was letting a good player walk because...there was no way to justify it.
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Re: Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season 

Post#1967 » by GTR11 » Thu Oct 1, 2020 2:48 am

And there goes theory bigs don't play big role. We should run our roster the way it is.
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Post#1968 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Oct 1, 2020 3:20 am

GTR11 wrote:And there goes theory bigs don't play big role. We should run our roster the way it is.


yep. as constructed right now, we have maximum depth, two superstars, and two solid bigs that can pass and finish. I'm not in favor of trading anyone unless it's for frickin Giannis or someone on that category tier.

It's only game 1, but The Lakers size absolutely punished Miami. Tyler Herro is a -45 in the plus minus.

Right now the rebounding disparity is 48-29 LA with 6 mins left in the 4th. I don't want to hear anything about small ball or big man not mattering.
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Re: Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season 

Post#1969 » by Hello Brooklyn » Thu Oct 1, 2020 5:19 am

MrDollarBills wrote:
GTR11 wrote:And there goes theory bigs don't play big role. We should run our roster the way it is.


yep. as constructed right now, we have maximum depth, two superstars, and two solid bigs that can pass and finish. I'm not in favor of trading anyone unless it's for frickin Giannis or someone on that category tier.

It's only game 1, but The Lakers size absolutely punished Miami. Tyler Herro is a -45 in the plus minus.

Right now the rebounding disparity is 48-29 LA with 6 mins left in the 4th. I don't want to hear anything about small ball or big man not mattering.


Agreed. The more I think about the more I feel we should just stand pat and look at add a few pieces through the MLE and draft.

The East is looking wide open next year. None of those teams are better than us.

And Lakers will be more complacent after they win a title. I think Jordan could actually be huge in guarding AD.
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Post#1970 » by Papi_swav » Thu Oct 1, 2020 5:27 am

I actually think Allen would do a decent job on AD. Long, tall, arms, and almost as quick. Ofcourse nobody can guard AD but to limit him and not let him drop 30 is the key.
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Post#1971 » by Prokorov » Thu Oct 1, 2020 6:35 am

MrDollarBills wrote:
GTR11 wrote:And there goes theory bigs don't play big role. We should run our roster the way it is.


yep. as constructed right now, we have maximum depth, two superstars, and two solid bigs that can pass and finish. I'm not in favor of trading anyone unless it's for frickin Giannis or someone on that category tier.

It's only game 1, but The Lakers size absolutely punished Miami. Tyler Herro is a -45 in the plus minus.

Right now the rebounding disparity is 48-29 LA with 6 mins left in the 4th. I don't want to hear anything about small ball or big man not mattering.


The lakers are playing a team that is one of the smallest in the entire league who are 100 times less talented. the heat can do nothing to force LA to go smaller.

how big do the lakers look when we run out KD at the 4 or 5? not very big. we can force anyone to go small. we also dont need to go as small as Miami does.

Miami isnt worried about jae crowder dominating their bigs offensively. they would 100% need to worry about KD doing that.

Miami doesnt need to worry about dragic detroying thier bigs in a switch. they would 100% need to worry about that with Kyrie.
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Post#1972 » by Prokorov » Thu Oct 1, 2020 6:38 am

Papi_swav wrote:I actually think Allen would do a decent job on AD. Long, tall, arms, and almost as quick. Ofcourse nobody can guard AD but to limit him and not let him drop 30 is the key.


Didnt davis drop like 40+/20+ on Allen last season?
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Post#1973 » by Papi_swav » Thu Oct 1, 2020 8:27 am

Prokorov wrote:
Papi_swav wrote:I actually think Allen would do a decent job on AD. Long, tall, arms, and almost as quick. Ofcourse nobody can guard AD but to limit him and not let him drop 30 is the key.


Didnt davis drop like 40+/20+ on Allen last season?

When in 2019? I'm not sure but last season is a long time ago and Allen has improved, and playoffs is different from regular season. Plus I'm speaking on when we have our full roster together including KD. I already said nobody can guard AD, just have to make it tough on him. Nobody can guard AD like nobody can guard KD. I like our advantage though
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Post#1974 » by Prokorov » Thu Oct 1, 2020 8:36 am

Papi_swav wrote:
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Papi_swav wrote:I actually think Allen would do a decent job on AD. Long, tall, arms, and almost as quick. Ofcourse nobody can guard AD but to limit him and not let him drop 30 is the key.


Didnt davis drop like 40+/20+ on Allen last season?

When in 2019? I'm not sure but last season is a long time ago and Allen has improved, and playoffs is different from regular season. Plus I'm speaking on when we have our full roster together including KD. I already said nobody can guard AD, just have to make it tough on him. Nobody can guard AD like nobody can guard KD. I like our advantage though


I dont see allen making it tough on him. Not that that is an insult like you said AD is tough.

in 2019 AD whooped him with an epic game.

this year we played AD twice. first game AD didnt play much since they blew us out but he had 16/11 in 25 minutes. the second game we beat them and AD 26/9 but jordan started.

in both games Allen/Jordan spent little time guarding AD as the lakers played Howard/McGee at Center going big.
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Post#1975 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Oct 1, 2020 1:48 pm

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Prokorov wrote:
Didnt davis drop like 40+/20+ on Allen last season?

When in 2019? I'm not sure but last season is a long time ago and Allen has improved, and playoffs is different from regular season. Plus I'm speaking on when we have our full roster together including KD. I already said nobody can guard AD, just have to make it tough on him. Nobody can guard AD like nobody can guard KD. I like our advantage though


I dont see allen making it tough on him. Not that that is an insult like you said AD is tough.

in 2019 AD whooped him with an epic game.

this year we played AD twice. first game AD didnt play much since they blew us out but he had 16/11 in 25 minutes. the second game we beat them and AD 26/9 but jordan started.

in both games Allen/Jordan spent little time guarding AD as the lakers played Howard/McGee at Center going big.


Didn't Prince defend AD in that last game?

You're not going to shut down superstars. We need to make sure we're not giving up open looks from three and protecting the defensive paint/glass. 2nd chance points need to be cut down. Guys need to make sure that they are rotating to their spots and picking up assignments. If AD is making contested jumpers in the mid range, so be it. Better offense beats good defense 100%. But the team defense aspects are what will elevate this team to a championship level.
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Re: Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season 

Post#1976 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Oct 1, 2020 1:50 pm

Prokorov wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
GTR11 wrote:And there goes theory bigs don't play big role. We should run our roster the way it is.


yep. as constructed right now, we have maximum depth, two superstars, and two solid bigs that can pass and finish. I'm not in favor of trading anyone unless it's for frickin Giannis or someone on that category tier.

It's only game 1, but The Lakers size absolutely punished Miami. Tyler Herro is a -45 in the plus minus.

Right now the rebounding disparity is 48-29 LA with 6 mins left in the 4th. I don't want to hear anything about small ball or big man not mattering.


The lakers are playing a team that is one of the smallest in the entire league who are 100 times less talented. the heat can do nothing to force LA to go smaller.

how big do the lakers look when we run out KD at the 4 or 5? not very big. we can force anyone to go small. we also dont need to go as small as Miami does.

Miami isnt worried about jae crowder dominating their bigs offensively. they would 100% need to worry about KD doing that.

Miami doesnt need to worry about dragic detroying thier bigs in a switch. they would 100% need to worry about that with Kyrie.


I'm curious to see if Vogel will attempt to put AD on KD when we go to our death line up. Which takes him away from the basket and creates a lay up drill for Kyrie and Spencer.

The fact that we're even talking about this has me grinning from ear to ear.
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Post#1977 » by Papi_swav » Thu Oct 1, 2020 6:25 pm

Prokorov wrote:
Papi_swav wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
Didnt davis drop like 40+/20+ on Allen last season?

When in 2019? I'm not sure but last season is a long time ago and Allen has improved, and playoffs is different from regular season. Plus I'm speaking on when we have our full roster together including KD. I already said nobody can guard AD, just have to make it tough on him. Nobody can guard AD like nobody can guard KD. I like our advantage though


I dont see allen making it tough on him. Not that that is an insult like you said AD is tough.

in 2019 AD whooped him with an epic game.

this year we played AD twice. first game AD didnt play much since they blew us out but he had 16/11 in 25 minutes. the second game we beat them and AD 26/9 but jordan started.

in both games Allen/Jordan spent little time guarding AD as the lakers played Howard/McGee at Center going big.

So who was guarding AD when we beat them? I'll take a 26/9 game from AD. So you think Jordan is better to guard AD or someone else?
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Post#1978 » by Hello Brooklyn » Thu Oct 1, 2020 6:51 pm

Allen cannot guard AD. Did you guys forget what Embiid did to him last year?

He needs to add more size if he wants to guard bigs like that. Jordan will be key in guarding AD in that series.
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Post#1979 » by Papi_swav » Thu Oct 1, 2020 6:54 pm

Hello Brooklyn wrote:Allen cannot guard AD. Did you guys forget what Embiid did to him last year?

He needs to add more size if he wants to guard bigs like that. Jordan will be key in guarding AD in that series.

I wouldn't compare AD and Embiid, 2 different skill sets. Ad is more athletic and jumps around alot. Embiid is more of a bruiser beat u up down low in the post type of center. I think DJ is better to guard Embiid and AD is better to guard a guy like AD, but this is my opinion. I don't think DJ can keep up with a guy like AD, imagine DJ trying to guard AD on the perimeter, Ad will blow right by him.
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Post#1980 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Oct 1, 2020 7:04 pm

Papi_swav wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:Allen cannot guard AD. Did you guys forget what Embiid did to him last year?

He needs to add more size if he wants to guard bigs like that. Jordan will be key in guarding AD in that series.

I wouldn't compare AD and Embiid, 2 different skill sets. Ad is more athletic and jumps around alot. Embiid is more of a bruiser beat u up down low in the post type of center. I think DJ is better to guard Embiid and AD is better to guard a guy like AD, but this is my opinion. I don't think DJ can keep up with a guy like AD, imagine DJ trying to guard AD on the perimeter, Ad will blow right by him.


Allen put on additional weight from the time he played Embiid in the playoffs, I wouldn't keep thinking that this is how it's going to be. He played more than a few bigs in the bubble and did not get pushed around.
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