2020 NBA Draft Thread

[Bleeding Green]

Semi and Green are definitely gone, but that's because they are UFA and you don't retain players like that beyond their cheap contracts if you have cheap players to replace them with. Wanamaker probably gone too for similar reason, though he's definitely better than the guys looking to replace his minutes (Edwards, Waters) so who knows. Poirier has a guaranteed deal and getting rid of him either doesn't reduce payroll or it requires sending a pick for another to take him (probably). But maybe they could waive him and another team takes on his salary? I don't even think he's that bad, you can do a lot worse than have a 26 year old big as the last guy on the roster making 2.5 million.

[SmartWentCrazy]

Semi and Green are definitely gone, but that's because they are UFA and you don't retain players like that beyond their cheap contracts if you have cheap players to replace them with. Wanamaker probably gone too for similar reason, though he's definitely better than the guys looking to replace his minutes (Edwards, Waters) so who knows. Poirier has a guaranteed deal and getting rid of him either doesn't reduce payroll or it requires sending a pick for another to take him (probably). But maybe they could waive him and another team takes on his salary? I don't even think he's that bad, you can do a lot worse than have a 26 year old big as the last guy on the roster making 2.5 million.

Semi is has a team option at the minimum; if declined, hes a RFA. Guessing we pick it up cuz its cheap.

[Bleeding Green]

Semi and Green are definitely gone, but that's because they are UFA and you don't retain players like that beyond their cheap contracts if you have cheap players to replace them with. Wanamaker probably gone too for similar reason, though he's definitely better than the guys looking to replace his minutes (Edwards, Waters) so who knows. Poirier has a guaranteed deal and getting rid of him either doesn't reduce payroll or it requires sending a pick for another to take him (probably). But maybe they could waive him and another team takes on his salary? I don't even think he's that bad, you can do a lot worse than have a 26 year old big as the last guy on the roster making 2.5 million.

Semi is has a team option at the minimum; if declined, hes a RFA. Guessing we pick it up cuz its cheap.

It's cheap but he's really bad and they can replace his minutes with other cheap players who they will have longer contractual control over.

[JHTruth]

Ibaka is not signing an MLE deal, and if he does, he's just going to stay in Toronto regardless. Horford got 109 million as an older, but similar player last year. I keep seeing people talk about Ibaka as if he's just some scrub who you can get for 8 million on this board.

Ibaka earned himself a faaaat contract these playoffs. One of the premier pick-and-pop bigs in the league with experience and good defense.

[SmartWentCrazy]

Semi and Green are definitely gone, but that's because they are UFA and you don't retain players like that beyond their cheap contracts if you have cheap players to replace them with. Wanamaker probably gone too for similar reason, though he's definitely better than the guys looking to replace his minutes (Edwards, Waters) so who knows. Poirier has a guaranteed deal and getting rid of him either doesn't reduce payroll or it requires sending a pick for another to take him (probably). But maybe they could waive him and another team takes on his salary? I don't even think he's that bad, you can do a lot worse than have a 26 year old big as the last guy on the roster making 2.5 million.

Semi is has a team option at the minimum; if declined, hes a RFA. Guessing we pick it up cuz its cheap.

It's cheap but he's really bad and they can replace his minutes with other cheap players who they will have longer contractual control over.

If I had to guess, we’ll try to trade him to some team for a second. Houston feels like they’d be interested. Wouldnt bet on him being on the team.

[Bleeding Green]

I'd take a 2032 conditional second for Semi all day, you think someone would trade for him? There are a hundred Semis across the league you can just pick up any day of the week.

[100proof]

If Hali falls to 10. 14/26/47 For 14/Poirier. Offload a bad contract and move up 4 spots for a player that could be a good fit for the Jays. Then we could draft Reed at 30.

A lineup of Hali/Langford/Brown/Tatum/RWill would be so good defensively.

Romeo is 10000000000000% not starting over smart.

[SmartWentCrazy]

Does sending Poirier really get them to a level where they can offer anyone anymore money? They're still over the luxury tax so they have the same MLE to offer regardless of Poirier (I think).

To me, its more about the roster spot and preferring to not have his cap hit all else being equal

[JHTruth]

Does sending Poirier really get them to a level where they can offer anyone anymore money? They're still over the luxury tax so they have the same MLE to offer regardless of Poirier (I think).

To me, its more about the roster spot and preferring to not have his cap hit all else being equal

Just can't fathom why we signed Poirier at all.

[SmartWentCrazy]

I'd take a 2032 conditional second for Semi all day, you think someone would trade for him? There are a hundred Semis across the league you can just pick up any day of the week.

Someone took Abdel Nader. Someone would take Semi.

[Bleeding Green]

Does sending Poirier really get them to a level where they can offer anyone anymore money? They're still over the luxury tax so they have the same MLE to offer regardless of Poirier (I think).

To me, its more about the roster spot and preferring to not have his cap hit all else being equal

Just can't fathom why we signed Poirier at all.

He's a cheap big with good strength, size, defensive potential. He gets so much hate, don't really get it. They nailed Theis and Wanamaker as euro-signings for pennies so I'll give them the benefit on Poirier who we really haven't seen much of. Seems like a guy who if he can stop fouling every possession could be playable as the last big on the roster. He even looked kind of nasty in that Laker blowout game. Drilled a three, guarded out to the perimeter; I wouldn't right him off completely unless you can do something great with his roster spot.

[Bleeding Green]

I'd take a 2032 conditional second for Semi all day, you think someone would trade for him? There are a hundred Semis across the league you can just pick up any day of the week.

Someone took Abdel Nader. Someone would take Semi.

No one gave up a pick for him, though, and he was on a guaranteed contract. Celtics paid the Thunder to take him.

[BK_2020]

Boston needs to trade up and take Lamelo. Give Kemba back to the Hornets or something. Give them all our picks.

[Homerclease]

I could be convinced to like a Terry/Bane/Azibuke first round. Add a few shooters and some muscle down low to replace Kanter who should be dealt if he opts in. I’m warming up to Terry or Lewis Jr at 14 and Bane at 26. Azibuke is a massive man who would help down the road against the Embiids, Giannis and Bams of the world

[JHTruth]

To me, its more about the roster spot and preferring to not have his cap hit all else being equal

Just can't fathom why we signed Poirier at all.

He's a cheap big with good strength, size, defensive potential. He gets so much hate, don't really get it. They nailed Theis and Wanamaker as euro-signings for pennies so I'll give them the benefit on Poirier who we really haven't seen much of. Seems like a guy who if he can stop fouling every possession could be playable as the last big on the roster. He even looked kind of nasty in that Laker blowout game. Drilled a three, guarded out to the perimeter; I wouldn't right him off completely unless you can do something great with his roster spot.

I guess that's my question though. Why do we keep signing/drafting guys we have no intention of playing? Just sign some known stiff as your 4th string guy who will be thrilled to rot on the bench as long as the checks keep coming. I agree I think by the end of the season I was hoping Poirier would take Kanter's mins. If for no other reason to see what he can do. Why trade so get Carsen if he literally sees no time. I think Danny is equally frustrated. That's why he said "There's a lot about our team I don't know."

[Bleeding Green]

You have fifteen roster spots so you fill them. No team plays fifteen deep except in extreme blowout situations. You want them to play Poirier over Theis, Kanter and both Williams? No chance. If the team sucked ass and three centers were out injured, Poirier would probably play. What is the advantage to signing some known stiff to the same deal? You'd rather pay a known stiff to sit there instead of a 25 year old big with some intrigue? At least with Poirier there is some promise over just signing Ed Davis or Greg Monroe or whoever your default known stiff is. You get two years to see if he's worth keeping and then re-sign or move on. Maybe he washes out, and the worst thing that can be said about his signing is that you paid a guy 2.5 million a year to be the last guy on the bench.

I think he looks kind of decent, runs the floor well in transition, has a genuinely good jumper for a 7 footer, strong, good rollman. Fouls a lot, but show me a rookie big who doesn't. But hard to really gauge when he only plays in 2 minute bursts in blowouts basically. So much of being a good big is how well you do the little things like picks, being in the right spot on the roll, sealing off defenders for cutters/drivers. It's why Theis plays so much.

Poirier dominated in Maine in his limited time, as you'd hope, which is good. They didn't sign him with no intention of his playing. He was just a rookie euro big with four better players ahead of him.

[djFan71]

Just can't fathom why we signed Poirier at all.

He's a cheap big with good strength, size, defensive potential. He gets so much hate, don't really get it. They nailed Theis and Wanamaker as euro-signings for pennies so I'll give them the benefit on Poirier who we really haven't seen much of. Seems like a guy who if he can stop fouling every possession could be playable as the last big on the roster. He even looked kind of nasty in that Laker blowout game. Drilled a three, guarded out to the perimeter; I wouldn't right him off completely unless you can do something great with his roster spot.

I guess that's my question though. Why do we keep signing/drafting guys we have no intention of playing? Just sign some known stiff as your 4th string guy who will be thrilled to rot on the bench as long as the checks keep coming. I agree I think by the end of the season I was hoping Poirier would take Kanter's mins. If for no other reason to see what he can do. Why trade so get Carsen if he literally sees no time. I think Danny is equally frustrated. That's why he said "There's a lot about our team I don't know."

It worked great with Wanamaker and Theis, though, right? And they both had adjustment periods. Maybe Vinnie is the same and contributes next year. I'm fine carrying him over unless his roster spot/salary gets in the way of something obviously better. Esp if Kanter isn't back, we need a banger on the bench. Is a vet min or MLE center really gonna be that much of an improvement? If so, great. If not, hello Sexy Pants.

[JHTruth]

He's a cheap big with good strength, size, defensive potential. He gets so much hate, don't really get it. They nailed Theis and Wanamaker as euro-signings for pennies so I'll give them the benefit on Poirier who we really haven't seen much of. Seems like a guy who if he can stop fouling every possession could be playable as the last big on the roster. He even looked kind of nasty in that Laker blowout game. Drilled a three, guarded out to the perimeter; I wouldn't right him off completely unless you can do something great with his roster spot.

I guess that's my question though. Why do we keep signing/drafting guys we have no intention of playing? Just sign some known stiff as your 4th string guy who will be thrilled to rot on the bench as long as the checks keep coming. I agree I think by the end of the season I was hoping Poirier would take Kanter's mins. If for no other reason to see what he can do. Why trade so get Carsen if he literally sees no time. I think Danny is equally frustrated. That's why he said "There's a lot about our team I don't know."

It worked great with Wanamaker and Theis, though, right? And they both had adjustment periods. Maybe Vinnie is the same and contributes next year. I'm fine caring him over unless his roster spot/salary gets in the way of something obviously better. Esp if Kanter isn't back, we need a banger on the bench. Is a vet min or MLE center really gonna be that much of an improvement? If so, great. If not, hello Sexy Pants.

This is what I'm hoping happens. We dump Kanter (or he most likely dumps us for a bigger role elsewhere), and Vinnie becomes our bruiser off the bench to handle the big Cs out there..

[jfs1000d]

I guess that's my question though. Why do we keep signing/drafting guys we have no intention of playing? Just sign some known stiff as your 4th string guy who will be thrilled to rot on the bench as long as the checks keep coming. I agree I think by the end of the season I was hoping Poirier would take Kanter's mins. If for no other reason to see what he can do. Why trade so get Carsen if he literally sees no time. I think Danny is equally frustrated. That's why he said "There's a lot about our team I don't know."

It worked great with Wanamaker and Theis, though, right? And they both had adjustment periods. Maybe Vinnie is the same and contributes next year. I'm fine caring him over unless his roster spot/salary gets in the way of something obviously better. Esp if Kanter isn't back, we need a banger on the bench. Is a vet min or MLE center really gonna be that much of an improvement? If so, great. If not, hello Sexy Pants.

This is what I'm hoping happens. We dump Kanter (or he most likely dumps us for a bigger role elsewhere), and Vinnie becomes our bruiser off the bench to handle the big Cs out there..

Vinny is headed back to France. Not an NBA player.

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[jonige94]

Poirier is terrible, Im sorry, in the little that he's played he looked absolutely abysmal, we are basically are paying 2,5 millon per year to a cheerleader.