Trade Ideas Thread

[flintsky21]

If D'Antoni gets the Pacers job, Turner is definitely a goner. Just show em Hayward's 38% 3pt% last season and it's a done deal.

Wouldn't it be more logical for them to trade Sabonis instead? At least Turner can hit the three and rimrun ala Capela. Sabonis is the anti-MDA as he occupies the block most of the time.

Domas is an all-star and overall better player, probably even their most valuable player. So very little chance they'll choose Turner over him. But he'll definitely be shooting more 3s under D'Antoni..

[100proof]

Haha wishful thinking. But a playmaking SF is perfect for the Bulls if they want to compete soon. PG's too high-profile. Chicago might be hesitant to do the trade if they think he'll only walk after a year. Hayward could be easier to convince to stay.

Thats the deal I mean.

Hayward and 14 for #4, Sato and Young.

Combined salary of those two not enough to match. It gets complicated from there -- like a 4-for-2 swap or add a third team maybe?

the could just throw in the deadweight of Felicio, and just buy him out.

so Chicago out: #4, Young, Sato, Felicio, 4 mill cash
Boston out: Hayward, #14, Poirier to Bulls.

Chicago pays half of Felicios salary with the cash, Boston pays the other half to just make him go away.

[100proof]

A Hayward trade is not getting us from 14 to 4. He doesn't have that much trade value, especially to Chicago whose best players are in their early 20s vs. Hayward who is 30.

Hayward is a perfect fit for their roster though. And you need a good vet, look at the jump Brown and Tatum made since Kemba came here.....

White
Lavine
Hayward
Lauri
WCJ

nice lineup/

Also, Sato and Young and Felicio are doing them NO favors, so taking 2 bench players, 1 never plays player and giving an instant starter is a good deal, imo. They still have OPJ they can shop or Lauri if they like OPJ more

[Dannyboy36]

I guess my dream trade would be a multiple team deal with Kemba being the main piece going out to some desperate team looking to sell tickets, and John Collins coming this way. I’d play small ball with that squad.

[BRUNiNHO91]

Aaron Gordon and Terrence Ross for Hayward + whatever

Kemba, Brown, Tatum, AG, Rob.


Defensive small ball line up of Smart, Brown, Tatum, Grant and AG would be insane.

[Disinformation]

A Hayward trade is not getting us from 14 to 4. He doesn't have that much trade value, especially to Chicago whose best players are in their early 20s vs. Hayward who is 30.

Hayward is a perfect fit for their roster though. And you need a good vet, look at the jump Brown and Tatum made since Kemba came here.....

White
Lavine
Hayward
Lauri
WCJ

nice lineup/

Also, Sato and Young and Felicio are doing them NO favors, so taking 2 bench players, 1 never plays player and giving an instant starter is a good deal, imo. They still have OPJ they can shop or Lauri if they like OPJ more

None of that addresses the fact that Hayward doesn't have the trade value to move up from 14 to 4.

[Fencer reregistered]

I just don't see there being enough value in a Hayward trade unless he's willing to re-sign there. And are there any theories about what team(s) he'd be willing to re-sign with? He's a gamer, had a house in CA, and wants to win, so I presume the LA teams and GS would be of interest. Indiana is an obvious guess, although he's not likely to get championships there. But where else, especially if we rule out teams presumed to be hoarding cap room for 2021?

Milwaukee's probably a fit, but I haven't seen a reasonable trade proposal with them yet. Ditto the Clippers unless Paul George would want to commit to us, which seems unlikely. Ditto the Lakers.

GSW is theoretically a possibility, as they have tons of pick capital, so they and we could wind up with desired players while somebody else gets salary detritus and pick compensation. And of course there's Indiana.

But who else?

[big-shot-ROB]

A Hayward trade is not getting us from 14 to 4. He doesn't have that much trade value, especially to Chicago whose best players are in their early 20s vs. Hayward who is 30.

Hayward is a perfect fit for their roster though. And you need a good vet, look at the jump Brown and Tatum made since Kemba came here.....

White
Lavine
Hayward
Lauri
WCJ

nice lineup/

Also, Sato and Young and Felicio are doing them NO favors, so taking 2 bench players, 1 never plays player and giving an instant starter is a good deal, imo. They still have OPJ they can shop or Lauri if they like OPJ more

None of that addresses the fact that Hayward doesn't have the trade value to move up from 14 to 4.

This draft sucks. Hayward comitting to a team after next year even exceeds the value between 4 and 14, specially for teams such as Minnesota, GSW, Chicago, etc.

[100proof]

A Hayward trade is not getting us from 14 to 4. He doesn't have that much trade value, especially to Chicago whose best players are in their early 20s vs. Hayward who is 30.

Hayward is a perfect fit for their roster though. And you need a good vet, look at the jump Brown and Tatum made since Kemba came here.....

White
Lavine
Hayward
Lauri
WCJ

nice lineup/

Also, Sato and Young and Felicio are doing them NO favors, so taking 2 bench players, 1 never plays player and giving an instant starter is a good deal, imo. They still have OPJ they can shop or Lauri if they like OPJ more

None of that addresses the fact that Hayward doesn't have the trade value to move up from 14 to 4.

really?

you value the difference in #14 and #4 in this draft being worth MORE than swapping out Sato (9 and 5 on poor percentages), Young (32year old 5th big) and Felicio(Pure garbage) for an allstar calibre player?

[100proof]

I just don't see there being enough value in a Hayward trade unless he's willing to re-sign there. And are there any theories about what team(s) he'd be willing to re-sign with? He's a gamer, had a house in CA, and wants to win, so I presume the LA teams and GS would be of interest. Indiana is an obvious guess, although he's not likely to get championships there. But where else, especially if we rule out teams presumed to be hoarding cap room for 2021?

Milwaukee's probably a fit, but I haven't seen a reasonable trade proposal with them yet. Ditto the Clippers unless Paul George would want to commit to us, which seems unlikely. Ditto the Lakers.

GSW is theoretically a possibility, as they have tons of pick capital, so they and we could wind up with desired players while somebody else gets salary detritus and pick compensation. And of course there's Indiana.

But who else?

I would trade him to Clipper for Paul George if there was a team willing to take a gamble on George resigning there in a 3rd team deal.
NYK, Bulls, Minny, Charlotte. Any of the teams that could get us a pick to grab Haliburton.

[ConstableGeneva]

I just don't see there being enough value in a Hayward trade unless he's willing to re-sign there. And are there any theories about what team(s) he'd be willing to re-sign with? He's a gamer, had a house in CA, and wants to win, so I presume the LA teams and GS would be of interest. Indiana is an obvious guess, although he's not likely to get championships there. But where else, especially if we rule out teams presumed to be hoarding cap room for 2021?

Milwaukee's probably a fit, but I haven't seen a reasonable trade proposal with them yet. Ditto the Clippers unless Paul George would want to commit to us, which seems unlikely. Ditto the Lakers.

GSW is theoretically a possibility, as they have tons of pick capital, so they and we could wind up with desired players while somebody else gets salary detritus and pick compensation. And of course there's Indiana.

But who else?

He's sold their house in San Diego.

While I've proposed some outrageous ones (that I don't believe have any chance of happening myself), I too have yet to see a reasonable deal for him.

[Disinformation]

Hayward is a perfect fit for their roster though. And you need a good vet, look at the jump Brown and Tatum made since Kemba came here.....

White
Lavine
Hayward
Lauri
WCJ

nice lineup/

Also, Sato and Young and Felicio are doing them NO favors, so taking 2 bench players, 1 never plays player and giving an instant starter is a good deal, imo. They still have OPJ they can shop or Lauri if they like OPJ more

None of that addresses the fact that Hayward doesn't have the trade value to move up from 14 to 4.

really?

you value the difference in #14 and #4 in this draft being worth MORE than swapping out Sato (9 and 5 on poor percentages), Young (32year old 5th big) and Felicio(Pure garbage) for an allstar calibre player?

This draft sucks. Hayward comitting to a team after next year even exceeds the value between 4 and 14, specially for teams such as Minnesota, GSW, Chicago, etc.

Yeah yeah, this draft sucks...just like every draft does. And yet every year, GMs hold on to these picks as they approach the draft like they're hording gold.

Who was the last player traded (with or without a draft pick added) prior to or on draft night for a pick anywhere near as high as #4?

[ConstableGeneva]

Would be easier to trade him if he was on a multi-year deal. Opt out, sign a new deal, stay with the club another year, evaluate from there. If tax is the issue, trade one of Kemba or Hayward after a season. If they win the title, owners decide if they want to keep the team intact. Potential problem would be if one of them goes down with a major injury which makes them the new John Wall.

[BK_2020]

Anthony Davis

[big-shot-ROB]

None of that addresses the fact that Hayward doesn't have the trade value to move up from 14 to 4.

really?

you value the difference in #14 and #4 in this draft being worth MORE than swapping out Sato (9 and 5 on poor percentages), Young (32year old 5th big) and Felicio(Pure garbage) for an allstar calibre player?

This draft sucks. Hayward comitting to a team after next year even exceeds the value between 4 and 14, specially for teams such as Minnesota, GSW, Chicago, etc.

Yeah yeah, this draft sucks...just like every draft does. And yet every year, GMs hold on to these picks as they approach the draft like they're hording gold.

Who was the last player traded (with or without a draft pick added) prior to or on draft night for a pick anywhere near as high as #4?

Because draft picks are really valuable until a player is picked using them.

[Bleeding Green]

Kevin Love was traded for the #1 pick. AD was traded for the #4 pick last year. That the trade happened after the draft doesn't really seem to matter. Ray Allen for #5. Jimmy Butler for #7.

[Disinformation]

really?

you value the difference in #14 and #4 in this draft being worth MORE than swapping out Sato (9 and 5 on poor percentages), Young (32year old 5th big) and Felicio(Pure garbage) for an allstar calibre player?

This draft sucks. Hayward comitting to a team after next year even exceeds the value between 4 and 14, specially for teams such as Minnesota, GSW, Chicago, etc.

Yeah yeah, this draft sucks...just like every draft does. And yet every year, GMs hold on to these picks as they approach the draft like they're hording gold.

Who was the last player traded (with or without a draft pick added) prior to or on draft night for a pick anywhere near as high as #4?

Because draft picks are really valuable until a player is picked using them.

Exactly.

[Disinformation]

Kevin Love was traded for the #1 pick. AD was traded for the #4 pick last year. That the trade happened after the draft doesn't really seem to matter. Ray Allen for #5. Jimmy Butler for #7.

Good answers. I hadn't thought about the AD trade because it involved so much. But the Butler trade is a great comparison because it's very similar to what's being talked about with Hayward and the 14th. But let me ask you this:

Do you really think a 30 year old, post-significant injury, coming off another injury Hayward has the same value as 2017 28-year old Jimmy Butler coming off 3 straight All-Star Games and a 3rd Team All-Pro nod?

[Bleeding Green]

No, but I also wouldn't trade Hayward either and I wouldn't have traded Butler. The only defensible trade is the Love one because Wiggins was so hyped up. I don't think I would have traded AD for that crap sandwich either. Instead of retaining Davis now they have to max Brandon Ingram lmao

[Fencer reregistered]

really?

you value the difference in #14 and #4 in this draft being worth MORE than swapping out Sato (9 and 5 on poor percentages), Young (32year old 5th big) and Felicio(Pure garbage) for an allstar calibre player?

This draft sucks. Hayward comitting to a team after next year even exceeds the value between 4 and 14, specially for teams such as Minnesota, GSW, Chicago, etc.

Yeah yeah, this draft sucks...just like every draft does. And yet every year, GMs hold on to these picks as they approach the draft like they're hording gold.

Who was the last player traded (with or without a draft pick added) prior to or on draft night for a pick anywhere near as high as #4?

Because draft picks are really valuable until a player is picked using them.

Ray Allen comes to mind. He was about to turn 32 years old, and recuperating from surgery on both ankles. The pick was in a weak draft; the only two future all-stars available at #5 were Joakim Noah and Marc Gasol. (That said, the top two picks were locked in stone as Oden/Durant in some order, and #3/4 turned out to be Al Horford and Mike Conley.)