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Re: NBA Trade Thread #2 

Post#301 » by gobullschi » Fri Oct 2, 2020 4:54 am

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gobullschi wrote:Say Wiseman falls to 4.

Chicago Receives:
Hassan Whiteside, Nassir Little, & Anferee Simons

Portland Receives:
Otto Porter Jr.
Wendell Carter Jr.
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Coby White / Anferee Simons
Zach LaVine / Tomas Satoransky
Nassir Little / Chandler Hutchison
Lauri Markkanen / Thaddeus Young
James Wiseman / Hassan Whiteside / Daniel Gafford



I would only consider this if Simmons changed his name to Penny. Not sure I'd want whiteside, assuming this is a s&t. Why not just sign him?

Is little any good? I have only seen him for a handful of minutes.


I don’t view OPJ as a long term piece for the Bulls and think he could help POR, who needs to win now before Lillard & McCollum start to decline. If Wiseman falls to 4, WCJ is the obvious player to pair with OPJ in a deal. I meant to include POR 1st pick this year (#16) & thought Whiteside had one more year. :banghead:

It was splitting WCJ into three pieces (Simons, Little, & #16) with the help of a little value from OPJ.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #2 

Post#302 » by Ccwatercraft » Fri Oct 2, 2020 5:18 am

gobullschi wrote:
Ccwatercraft wrote:
gobullschi wrote:Say Wiseman falls to 4.

Chicago Receives:
Hassan Whiteside, Nassir Little, & Anferee Simons

Portland Receives:
Otto Porter Jr.
Wendell Carter Jr.
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Coby White / Anferee Simons
Zach LaVine / Tomas Satoransky
Nassir Little / Chandler Hutchison
Lauri Markkanen / Thaddeus Young
James Wiseman / Hassan Whiteside / Daniel Gafford



I would only consider this if Simmons changed his name to Penny. Not sure I'd want whiteside, assuming this is a s&t. Why not just sign him?

Is little any good? I have only seen him for a handful of minutes.


I don’t view OPJ as a long term piece for the Bulls and think he could help POR, who needs to win now before Lillard & McCollum start to decline. If Wiseman falls to 4, WCJ is the obvious player to pair with OPJ in a deal. I meant to include POR 1st pick this year (#16) & thought Whiteside had one more year. :banghead:

It was splitting WCJ into three pieces (Simons, Little, & #16) with the help of a little value from OPJ.



In general, I.tend to agree that OPJ is not the long term piece, but if he reverts to what we expected then that door is not closed. When he's healthy he makes us better. A contender would also appreciate his talent so IMO he's more than dead weight expiring. WCJ is still an unknown quantity and health has been a factor there too.

If we drafted a center gaff migh be a better backup anyway (cheap) and/or gsff might be a trade chip as well if we can trade young and let wcj play more 4/5.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #2 

Post#303 » by sco » Fri Oct 2, 2020 12:36 pm

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gobullschi wrote:
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I would only consider this if Simmons changed his name to Penny. Not sure I'd want whiteside, assuming this is a s&t. Why not just sign him?

Is little any good? I have only seen him for a handful of minutes.


I don’t view OPJ as a long term piece for the Bulls and think he could help POR, who needs to win now before Lillard & McCollum start to decline. If Wiseman falls to 4, WCJ is the obvious player to pair with OPJ in a deal. I meant to include POR 1st pick this year (#16) & thought Whiteside had one more year. :banghead:

It was splitting WCJ into three pieces (Simons, Little, & #16) with the help of a little value from OPJ.



In general, I.tend to agree that OPJ is not the long term piece, but if he reverts to what we expected then that door is not closed. When he's healthy he makes us better. A contender would also appreciate his talent so IMO he's more than dead weight expiring. WCJ is still an unknown quantity and health has been a factor there too.

If we drafted a center gaff migh be a better backup anyway (cheap) and/or gsff might be a trade chip as well if we can trade young and let wcj play more 4/5.

I think the FO values OPJ more than many here do. ME during his recent interview remembered and valued OPJ from his WAS days as a 2-way playing "good vet". If the FO fall in love with Wiseman, I could see them trade WCJ for a pick or a useful vet from a winning program. My pick would be trying to get #14 from the Celts (and drafting Poku).
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #2 

Post#304 » by gobullschi » Fri Oct 2, 2020 1:52 pm

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Ccwatercraft wrote:
gobullschi wrote:
I don’t view OPJ as a long term piece for the Bulls and think he could help POR, who needs to win now before Lillard & McCollum start to decline. If Wiseman falls to 4, WCJ is the obvious player to pair with OPJ in a deal. I meant to include POR 1st pick this year (#16) & thought Whiteside had one more year. :banghead:

It was splitting WCJ into three pieces (Simons, Little, & #16) with the help of a little value from OPJ.



In general, I.tend to agree that OPJ is not the long term piece, but if he reverts to what we expected then that door is not closed. When he's healthy he makes us better. A contender would also appreciate his talent so IMO he's more than dead weight expiring. WCJ is still an unknown quantity and health has been a factor there too.

If we drafted a center gaff migh be a better backup anyway (cheap) and/or gsff might be a trade chip as well if we can trade young and let wcj play more 4/5.

I think the FO values OPJ more than many here do. ME during his recent interview remembered and valued OPJ from his WAS days as a 2-way playing "good vet". If the FO fall in love with Wiseman, I could see them trade WCJ for a pick or a useful vet from a winning program. My pick would be trying to get #14 from the Celts (and drafting Poku).


This is the first time they’ve even mentioned him and his name has never been included as part of the ‘core’. Eversley was just doing his best to boost his value. If they don’t think he’s a long-term piece, he should be moved.

I don’t mind taking a gamble on Poku if the Bulls can get an additional draft pick. Poku, McDaniels, & Hampton are three projects I’d be interested in.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #2 

Post#305 » by StunnerKO » Fri Oct 2, 2020 2:13 pm

Eversley said Otto showed up to camp in great shape and is his slim like his Wizards days. Says he came into last season out of shape and it showed with him looking a lil chubby and the injuries
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Post#306 » by gobullschi » Fri Oct 2, 2020 2:23 pm

StunnerKO wrote:Eversley said Otto showed up to camp in great shape and is his slim like his Wizards days. Says he came into last season out of shape and it showed with him looking a lil chubby and the injuries


Love hearing this.

He definitely looked out of shape last year and it really impacted his lateral quickness. Hopefully that was because of the foot injury.

I hate players that only get in ‘great shape’ in their contract years. Play good enough to get overpaid.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #2 

Post#307 » by skywalker33 » Sat Oct 3, 2020 4:14 am

So what kinda trade value do you guys put on Hutchinson ?
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Post#308 » by StunnerKO » Sat Oct 3, 2020 11:59 am

Keep him and see if the new staff can keep him healthy; every time he gets rolling he gets hurt. I still like his wing potential as a role player


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Post#309 » by ChettheJet » Sat Oct 3, 2020 2:42 pm

skywalker33 wrote:So what kinda trade value do you guys put on Hutchinson ?


He's virtually an unknown. It took a while for him to get into the NBA game and then in limited minutes he slowly made progress. But as soon as he started to get meaningful minutes he'd get injured. That would basically set him back to zero when he would get in shape, start to work on getting in game shape and get to where he could show something. There have been flashes where he looked like he could be a complete player, not great at ball handling, shooting, 3pt shooting, driving to the hoop, defense but he was pretty good at everything so you'd wonder what he could do if he stayed healthy.

My guess is this is his year to stay on the floor and produce because there's no more waiting on potential.
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Post#310 » by PlayerUp » Sat Oct 3, 2020 3:05 pm

StunnerKO wrote:Keep him and see if the new staff can keep him healthy


Hutch has 0 value so of course they'll keep him.
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Post#311 » by drosereturn » Sat Oct 3, 2020 3:48 pm

skywalker33 wrote:So what kinda trade value do you guys put on Hutchinson ?


Basically trash trying to build up trade value to late 1st round.
Would have traded him for Bol but got eclipsed in a season.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #2 

Post#312 » by TheSuzerain » Sat Oct 3, 2020 7:33 pm

skywalker33 wrote:So what kinda trade value do you guys put on Hutchinson ?

You can have him for a 2nd or two.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #2 

Post#313 » by gobullschi » Sun Oct 4, 2020 12:04 am

What could the Bulls fetch in a sign & trade with Kris Dunn?
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Post#314 » by Dominator83 » Sun Oct 4, 2020 11:11 am

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skywalker33 wrote:So what kinda trade value do you guys put on Hutchinson ?


He's virtually an unknown. It took a while for him to get into the NBA game and then in limited minutes he slowly made progress. But as soon as he started to get meaningful minutes he'd get injured. That would basically set him back to zero when he would get in shape, start to work on getting in game shape and get to where he could show something. There have been flashes where he looked like he could be a complete player, not great at ball handling, shooting, 3pt shooting, driving to the hoop, defense but he was pretty good at everything so you'd wonder what he could do if he stayed healthy.

My guess is this is his year to stay on the floor and produce because there's no more waiting on potential.

No offense bud but that was a pretty contradictory sentence. He's not a complete player that's pretty good at everything if he can't shoot, can't drive, can't handle the ball, and can't play Defense. That sounds more like a player that can't do anything. Lol
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #2 

Post#315 » by sco » Sun Oct 4, 2020 3:08 pm

gobullschi wrote:What could the Bulls fetch in a sign & trade with Kris Dunn?

a 2099 2nd rounder and a toaster
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #2 

Post#316 » by Ccwatercraft » Sun Oct 4, 2020 4:51 pm

sco wrote:
gobullschi wrote:What could the Bulls fetch in a sign & trade with Kris Dunn?

a 2099 2nd rounder and a toaster


What kind toaster? There are some nice toasters out there.

Anyway. anything is possible.
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Post#317 » by sco » Sun Oct 4, 2020 9:41 pm

Saw this in the Lauri thread - sign me up. Go nab me Nesmith, Hampton, or Poku at 13.
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Post#318 » by Grodoboldo » Sun Oct 4, 2020 10:32 pm

sco wrote:Saw this in the Lauri thread - sign me up. Go nab me Nesmith, Hampton, or Poku at 13.
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Yeah, I'd do that in a heartbeat. Doubt the Pel's agree to it, though.
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Post#319 » by kodo » Sun Oct 4, 2020 11:30 pm

So they'll play Lauri at center? Ok.
With Zion at least at this age being a pretty bad defender, that would be a very one sided big man duo.

Unless they're thinking Lauri is a long term bench player.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #2 

Post#320 » by sco » Mon Oct 5, 2020 12:36 pm

sco wrote:Saw this in the Lauri thread - sign me up. Go nab me Nesmith, Hampton, or Poku at 13.
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I wonder if we could get Ball thrown in instead NAW and next year's pick?
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