BostonCouchGM wrote:snowman wrote:I posted this in the trade thread but O think it's worth saying again. Danny said that he and the ownership except the fact that we are going to be a tax paying team next season. (I think he is saying that our starters will all be back). Danny said that a lot of work needed to be done, and that we are not good enough. (I think that he is saying that he dropped the ball on such a weak bench, and that the vets we did have on the bench (Wannamaker, Semi weren't good enough). He also said that a healthy Kemba and Hayward would be a big difference. (In my mind, that means he feels we are pretty close, and that our top players, (Kemba, Brown, Hayward, Tatum, Theis, Smart, R. Will, G. Will., Kanter and Langford will all be back, if Hayward and Kanter pick up their options.) He wants the bench to be better, but not necessarily improved by expensive veteran players, but by better younger players, that we have longer control of. I feel that Wannamaker, Semi, Green, Edwards, Poirier, Waters and Fall are on the hot seat. He couldn't come right out and say this guy is gone, or that guy is going to be released or traded, but the writing is on the wall. Notice has been given.
1) Wannamaker, Semi and Green are easily released or just not offered a contract, which doesn't cost us an asset to move, and can be replaced by the 3 first round picks. Regardless of who we pick, that in of it's self will be an upgrade to players that are an NBA talent and SHOULD be on an NBA roster vs players that we currently have that aren't and shouldn't be. I have been advocating for Saddiq Bey, Tre Jones, and Daniel Oturu to replace these three and they would be a huge upgrade in talent, with 4-5 years control over them and just a small uptick difference in the salaries.
2) That would leave Poirier, Fall, Edwards and Waters. It will probably come down to a training camp battle between Poirier vs Fall and Edwards vs Waters for 2 roster spots. If Waters and Fall win then we will have to trade or release Poirier and Edwards.
PG: Kemba, Smart, Tre Jones, (Edwards/ Waters)
SG: Brown, Langford
SF: Hayward, Saddiq Bey
PF: Tatum, G. Williams, Oturu
C: Theis, R. Williams, Kanter, (Poirier/Fall)
that lineup doesn't get it done next year. We'd be in the Finals playing tonight if Danny had taken Sekou, Clarke, Bazley and Bol/Roby/Reid instead of what he did last draft. Bey, Oturu and Jones doesn't move the needle on iota. Bey has a very slow and low release to his shot and isn't a remarkable athlete. He'll be 22 y/o in April so it's a little late to expect him to revamp his release in time to help us. He's a poor man's Mikal Bridges, maybe closer to Justin Jackson. Hard pass. I too was initially high on him but no longer. Oturu isn't an NBA starter. He's Ivan Rabb 2.0. Another hard pass. I think Jones will have a 10 year NBA career as a backup only. No reason to take him in the 1st round. There are so many better players than these guys who should be available at our picks.
I agree that would have been a better draft than last year. That's done for, move on. However, it's silly to think they would have put us in the finals. I read a lot of your posts, and sometimes I think you just like to hate on everything that isn't your idea.
As far as the 3 I listed, I'll take them in order of your complaints.
Bey: Slow, low release can be improved, most importantly it went in at a 45% clip. With the double teaming and the movement from our offense, many of his shots will be open anyway. If there were nothing wrong with his shot, and a top athlete, he'd be going in the top 5 and we wouldn't have a chance at him. As it is, we will be lucky if he is even still available at 14. I would much rather we have a guy that can
MAKE the shot than one who has great form, but it never goes in. And he just turned 21 in April, just the right age to grow with Tatum, Brown and the rest of our youth.
Oturu: 2.5 blocks, 11+ rebounds and 36.5 % from 3 is not an Ivan Rabb 2.0. Thays better than what most teams can run out at the five spot now. Certainly better than our 3 headed monster we have. In a year or 2 if not a starter, a quality back up, and you can't ask for more from the 30th pick. Also just turned 21.
Jones: Jones will more than likely be the best point guard available at the 26th pick, and with his assist and shooting plus his defensive number, at just 20 years old, he could very easily grow in to our starting point guard when Kemba leaves. Certainly a better chance than Waters at starting. I see many Marcus Smart qualities in him with is defense and passing.
