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Re: Paul Reed 2020 draft discussion 

Post#21 » by Catchall » Mon Oct 5, 2020 6:08 am

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Leslie Forman wrote:I'm really having trouble understanding why Obi Toppin is like 30 spots higher than him. Everything except the janky ass shooting form screams NBA modern 4. I suspect he is much, much higher on actual NBA team boards than all the draft nerd sites.

This must be right. How could GM’s let this guy fall to the second round? In this draft? Makes no sense.


If GMs really think he won't be able to shoot, and his role is basically Mo Harkless/Kevon Looney, then I could see him slipping to the 2nd round. That isn't giving him any benefit of the doubt though.
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Post#22 » by kobyz » Mon Oct 5, 2020 11:04 am

I see Charles Smith similarity
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Post#23 » by BostonCouchGM » Mon Oct 5, 2020 9:07 pm

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Paul Reed has climbed my own personal big board. He's just a can't miss prospect in my eyes. Length, mobility, defense, offensive upside. I don't know how he's not a lottery pick but it's complete nonsense that most mock drafts don't even have him going in the 1st rd.


agreed. I'm not sure lottery but not be in 1st round of mocks is embarrassing but these sites mostly are so it's par for the course.
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Post#24 » by LakersSoul » Tue Oct 6, 2020 4:24 am

WargamesX wrote:I think he goes at the end of the first round.


Lakers pick Reed late first as 3&D Wing guy against Kawhi.

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Post#25 » by djFan71 » Tue Oct 6, 2020 7:06 am

Horrible player. Should drop to 26 at the earliest. :)
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Post#26 » by God Squad » Tue Oct 6, 2020 9:50 am

I think all playoff teams are hoping to pick him up if he falls. I know the Raptors are looking at him also.
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Post#27 » by BlazersBroncos » Tue Oct 6, 2020 5:09 pm

There isnt a chance in hell he falls to R2. He is a prototypical PF in todays game. Albeit, I dont see this 'guard Kawai' type versatility. He is a pure PF with a bit of switchability but he isnt a pure swing forward IMO.

I see a sort of springier Brandon Bass with 3PT range.
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Post#28 » by Ruzious » Tue Oct 6, 2020 7:39 pm

I want to see what he measures at. He looks a little smaller than listed to me - Brandon Clarke sized without the great athleticism. I'd like to see him add some bulk/strength. Right now, I don't see him starting in the NBA - but he could prove me wrong.
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Post#29 » by EvanZ » Wed Oct 7, 2020 3:19 pm

Ruzious wrote:I want to see what he measures at. He looks a little smaller than listed to me - Brandon Clarke sized without the great athleticism. I'd like to see him add some bulk/strength. Right now, I don't see him starting in the NBA - but he could prove me wrong.


He's way way longer than Clarke. 7'1" ws and 8'11" sr. Beats Clarke by several inches in both.
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Post#30 » by Ruzious » Wed Oct 7, 2020 3:27 pm

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Ruzious wrote:I want to see what he measures at. He looks a little smaller than listed to me - Brandon Clarke sized without the great athleticism. I'd like to see him add some bulk/strength. Right now, I don't see him starting in the NBA - but he could prove me wrong.


He's way way longer than Clarke. 7'1" ws and 8'11" sr. Beats Clarke by several inches in both.

But Clarke's an exception due to his athleticism - which Reed isn't.
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Post#31 » by BlazersBroncos » Wed Oct 7, 2020 4:41 pm

But Clarke's an exception due to his athleticism - which Reed isn't.


Well, ya. If Clarke didnt have Clarke's athleticism he wouldnt be a rotation guy in this league. He is a borderline elite athlete, there are not many PF's with his combo of lateral quickness, vertical leap and quickness off his 2nd/3rd jump. He is basically a freak.
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Post#32 » by EvanZ » Wed Oct 7, 2020 6:13 pm

Ruzious wrote:
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Ruzious wrote:I want to see what he measures at. He looks a little smaller than listed to me - Brandon Clarke sized without the great athleticism. I'd like to see him add some bulk/strength. Right now, I don't see him starting in the NBA - but he could prove me wrong.


He's way way longer than Clarke. 7'1" ws and 8'11" sr. Beats Clarke by several inches in both.

But Clarke's an exception due to his athleticism - which Reed isn't.


Clarke needs to be an exception because his length is ****. Reed is a very good athlete, but he doesn't need to be an elite athlete with his frame and length. He's built similarly to Siakam.
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Re: Paul Reed 2020 draft discussion 

Post#33 » by Ruzious » Wed Oct 7, 2020 6:35 pm

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He's way way longer than Clarke. 7'1" ws and 8'11" sr. Beats Clarke by several inches in both.

But Clarke's an exception due to his athleticism - which Reed isn't.


Clarke needs to be an exception because his length is ****. Reed is a very good athlete, but he doesn't need to be an elite athlete with his frame and length. He's built similarly to Siakam.

Why bring up Siakam when Reed doesn't have anywhere near the skills of Siakam?
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Post#34 » by pcbothwel » Wed Oct 7, 2020 7:55 pm

Ruzious wrote:
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Ruzious wrote:But Clarke's an exception due to his athleticism - which Reed isn't.


Clarke needs to be an exception because his length is ****. Reed is a very good athlete, but he doesn't need to be an elite athlete with his frame and length. He's built similarly to Siakam.

Why bring up Siakam when Reed doesn't have anywhere near the skills of Siakam?


Siakim was more than a year older than Reed is now when he was drafted. Their build, stats, and skill set are extremely similar... but Reed did it in the Big East and Siakim in the WAC. Reed has identical scoring, rebounding, and assist numbers, while averaging 50% more STOCKS. As a prospect, Reed is more impressive.

Its like when people compare prospects to Butler, Kawhi, etc.... They are not talking about the All-NBA version that is 27, but the prospect at draft time.
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Re: Paul Reed 2020 draft discussion 

Post#35 » by EvanZ » Wed Oct 7, 2020 7:56 pm

Ruzious wrote:
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Ruzious wrote:But Clarke's an exception due to his athleticism - which Reed isn't.


Clarke needs to be an exception because his length is ****. Reed is a very good athlete, but he doesn't need to be an elite athlete with his frame and length. He's built similarly to Siakam.

Why bring up Siakam when Reed doesn't have anywhere near the skills of Siakam?


I said he's built like Siakam. We're talking about his physical attributes. Made perfect sense to me to compare him to Siakam. Do you fundamentally disagree with their build being similar? I mean you compared Reed to Clarke and they also are not really similar in any way whatsoever. So...
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Re: Paul Reed 2020 draft discussion 

Post#36 » by Ruzious » Wed Oct 7, 2020 9:28 pm

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Ruzious wrote:
EvanZ wrote:
Clarke needs to be an exception because his length is ****. Reed is a very good athlete, but he doesn't need to be an elite athlete with his frame and length. He's built similarly to Siakam.

Why bring up Siakam when Reed doesn't have anywhere near the skills of Siakam?


Siakim was more than a year older than Reed is now when he was drafted. Their build, stats, and skill set are extremely similar... but Reed did it in the Big East and Siakim in the WAC. Reed has identical scoring, rebounding, and assist numbers, while averaging 50% more STOCKS. As a prospect, Reed is more impressive.

Its like when people compare prospects to Butler, Kawhi, etc.... They are not talking about the All-NBA version that is 27, but the prospect at draft time.

Meh. Siakam started playing organized basketball late. He's an outlier - ya can't expect anyone to develop like him.
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Re: Paul Reed 2020 draft discussion 

Post#37 » by SNPA » Wed Oct 7, 2020 10:54 pm

I’d take him as high as mid first. 12-18. That’s the range where he belongs IMO.
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Post#38 » by Almond2Oak » Thu Oct 8, 2020 12:51 am

Hoping C’s take him at 14. Reed gonna clown folks who doubted him.
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Re: Paul Reed 2020 draft discussion 

Post#39 » by Catchall » Thu Oct 8, 2020 3:16 am

If he can shoot better, he could be similar to (a less bouncy) Josh Smith. If he can't shoot better, then he's a Mo Harkless/Kevon Looney-type backup 4/5.
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Re: Paul Reed 2020 draft discussion 

Post#40 » by EvanZ » Thu Oct 8, 2020 3:39 am

Catchall wrote:If he can shoot better, he could be similar to (a less bouncy) Josh Smith.


Huh? Josh Smith was a terrible shooter. Scratching my head on that one.

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