2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 -- (8PM, Wed, Nov. 18, ESPN)

[SmartWentCrazy]

at #14 I'm starting to fall in love with Precious. I see some Jerami Grant in him. I see some Harrell in him. I really feel like his skill-set and energy would fit in really nicely in Boston

Precious has zero touch. To be honest, his skill set is kinda lacking. He’s basically a taller/longer Ojeleye who plays with more force but cannot kick it from deep. He screams bust to me— he was a garbage man in college and will no longer have the hustle/athleticism advantages he did playing in the AAC.

[SmartWentCrazy]

Pokusevski have a really pg like ball handle , he has pg mind set, I dont know how that would work in the NBA, he can't be compared to Jokic who does ball handling a lot as a center, Pokusevski is a much more natural with the ball in his hands , he can dribble like a guard, he shoots like a guard , he can go around the screens and shoot etc. His lack of strength for me is the biggest concern , he was very weak in head to head against his peers at FIBA U18 championship last year .

He is too slow for a wing and far to frail for any position. Smart is 9 inches shorter and weight 40 pounds more.

If a team uses a top 25 pick on him its a waste of a pick.

2 years away from being 3 years away

Just like Giannis; thats why I think we should draft the next Olynyk, were a team that cannot afford to take any risks. Certainly not when the pick is a result of trading Celtic Legend Jeff Green.

[SmartWentCrazy]

Pokusevski have a really pg like ball handle , he has pg mind set, I dont know how that would work in the NBA, he can't be compared to Jokic who does ball handling a lot as a center, Pokusevski is a much more natural with the ball in his hands , he can dribble like a guard, he shoots like a guard , he can go around the screens and shoot etc. His lack of strength for me is the biggest concern , he was very weak in head to head against his peers at FIBA U18 championship last year .

He is too slow for a wing and far to frail for any position. Smart is 9 inches shorter and weight 40 pounds more.

If a team uses a top 25 pick on him its a waste of a pick.

I agree with the bold. what position can he defend. But don't agree with a waste of pick. If a team can build/bulk him up ala Giannis, he may be a star player in 2 years.

Problem is I want Boston to go for it with a more ready to contribute player and Poku aint it. at 26 maybe, and 30 definitely, at 14 please NO!

This is why teams draft Olynyk’s over Giannis’— if any team is able to afford to use a lottery pick on a high risk, high ceiling project, its a team that just made the ECF with its best two players being 22 and 23 years old. Especially when the pick came from trading Jeff Green.

[SmartWentCrazy]

at #14 I'm starting to fall in love with Precious. I see some Jerami Grant in him. I see some Harrell in him. I really feel like his skill-set and energy would fit in really nicely in Boston

Yep he’s been one of my favorites forever now. He’s the closest thing you’ll find to a bit like Bam in this draft who can switch everything defensively and just rim run on offense.

He was also more of a wing in HS but Penny had him playing center which is where he’ll thrive in the NBA

There are no Bams in this draft and trying to find the next one is how you make mistakes. He’s closer to Harrell than he is to Bam.

[SmartWentCrazy]

at #14 I'm starting to fall in love with Precious. I see some Jerami Grant in him. I see some Harrell in him. I really feel like his skill-set and energy would fit in really nicely in Boston

Yep he’s been one of my favorites forever now. He’s the closest thing you’ll find to a bit like Bam in this draft who can switch everything defensively and just rim run on offense.

He was also more of a wing in HS but Penny had him playing center which is where he’ll thrive in the NBA

OK, let me put yu on the spot.. Precious or Jalen Smith? who you like better for Boston's needs short and long term?

Pass on both.

[Spin Move]

at #14 I'm starting to fall in love with Precious. I see some Jerami Grant in him. I see some Harrell in him. I really feel like his skill-set and energy would fit in really nicely in Boston

Yep he’s been one of my favorites forever now. He’s the closest thing you’ll find to a bit like Bam in this draft who can switch everything defensively and just rim run on offense.

He was also more of a wing in HS but Penny had him playing center which is where he’ll thrive in the NBA

OK, let me put yu on the spot.. Precious or Jalen Smith? who you like better for Boston's needs short and long term?

They are very different types of players, Smith is a much better shooter Precious has elite athletiscm for his size. If you want a shot blocker, Smith, if you want somone who can switch in a pick and roll Precious. Smith is more of a true big and Precious is more of a Andrie Kiralinko Shawn Mario Hybrid 3/4 who doesnt have a great shot yet (that is not a knoch)

The first line is Jalen Smith, the second line is Precious
MP PER TS% eFG% 3PAr FTr PProd ORB% DRB% TRB% AST% STL% BLK% TOV% USG% OWS DWS WS WS/40 OBPM DBPM BPM
970 29.3 .626 .590 .279 .474 444 11.5 25.6 18.6 6.0 1.3 8.2 12.2 22.8 3.6 2.4 6.0 .249 7.7 4.3 12.0
943 23.3 .534 .511 .108 .507 460 11.4 24.6 18.6 7.5 2.0 6.4 16.0 27.7 1.5 2.9 4.4 .187 2.5 3.4 5.8

They had virtually the same rebounding rates. Smith Blocked shots at a higher percentage Precious had more assists and stole the ball more.
Smith is about 6 months younger even though he played an additional season of college.

The consensus mocks have Precious going much higher. He is the better athlete, faster and a better Jumper. Smith is more skileld. I never trust a player to become a better shooter and that would be needed for Precious Danny often does though. I don't know if smith is athletic enough to switch on pick and rolls, Precious is. They are just different, I see the merit in both in college Smith was the better player, but Precious has a higher upside.

[31to6]

OK Ladies and GENTS!!

rank these late firsts/2nd rd centers for Boston please. in NO ORDER

1 - Zeke Nnaji PF – Arizona – Ht – 6-11 – Wt – 230 – Wing – 7-1 – Fr – Nnaji has great mobility and a good scoring touch. He’s got a quick first step and is able to blow by defenders with the dribble and outmaneuver for rebounds. Shoots the ball well.

2 - Isaiah Stewart PF – Washington –
Ht – 6-9 – Wt – 247 – Wing – 7-4 – Fr – Stewart is destined for a long NBA career but he might not be an All Star level player. He should be able to contribute early thanks to his NBA ready frame and hard work on the boards.

3 - Paul Reed PF – DePual – Ht – 6-9 – Wt – 210 – Wing – NA – Jr – Has intriguing length and agility and has developed into a dangerous pick and pop threat. Can defend at the rim and is one of the best overall defenders in the class

4 - Daniel Oturu C – Minnesota – Ht – 6-10 – Wt – 240 – Wing – NA – So – Oturu had a breakout sophomore season, scoring the rock at a high clip and continuing to rebound and block shots at an elite level.

5 - Xavier Tillman PF – Michigan State – Ht – 6-8 – Wt – 245 – Wing – NA – Sr –
A glue-guy, hard-nosed player and standout defender with a high basketball

Oturu
Nnaji
Reed
Tillman
Carey
Azubuike (are we totally sleeping on a 270lber with a 7’7” wingspan? I know he’s seriously limited but Embiid isn’t going anywhere soon)
Others

[ddb]

at #14 I'm starting to fall in love with Precious. I see some Jerami Grant in him. I see some Harrell in him. I really feel like his skill-set and energy would fit in really nicely in Boston

Yep he’s been one of my favorites forever now. He’s the closest thing you’ll find to a bit like Bam in this draft who can switch everything defensively and just rim run on offense.

He was also more of a wing in HS but Penny had him playing center which is where he’ll thrive in the NBA

OK, let me put yu on the spot.. Precious or Jalen Smith? who you like better for Boston's needs short and long term?

Precious

[SmartWentCrazy]

Some of you lost the right to criticize Ainge for passing on Giannis in favor of Olynyk.



Yah, he looked two years away from being 2 years away. His frame sucked, his legs had no mass. He played in a **** league. But guess what— their are only so many human beings on this Earth that combined his height, fluidity and BBIQ. You 100% take that chance with a late lottery pick; **** trying to get the next Olynyk cuz he’ll help more now.

[aporel18]

At #14, Maledon might be a steal, he could be a top 5 player in this draft. He could even take on the Wanamaker role, he isn't as experienced as Brad, but he has the tools to be a good all around player from the get go, given his experience at the Euroleague level.

At #26, draft the best available shooter who isn't a liability on defense

At #30, draft&stash Poku if available, if not draft&stash Petrusev

At #47, a player with a firesure NBA skill, i.e. Markus Howard

Two guaranteed contracts for rookies should be enough. Maledon and whoever is picked at #26 could contribute in limited roles, over players already on the roster

[ddb]

at #14 I'm starting to fall in love with Precious. I see some Jerami Grant in him. I see some Harrell in him. I really feel like his skill-set and energy would fit in really nicely in Boston

Precious has zero touch. To be honest, his skill set is kinda lacking. He’s basically a taller/longer Ojeleye who plays with more force but cannot kick it from deep. He screams bust to me— he was a garbage man in college and will no longer have the hustle/athleticism advantages he did playing in the AAC.

I go back and forth on players in this draft. I like Precious. He's a garbage man and I think he ends up being a Jerami Grant/Harrell type. Athletic, useful and expands skill-set at the NBA level

[TheMartian]

Some of you lost the right to criticize Ainge for passing on Giannis in favor of Olynyk.



Yah, he looked two years away from being 2 years away. His frame sucked, his legs had no mass. He played in a **** league. But guess what— their are only so many human beings on this Earth that combined his height, fluidity and BBIQ. You 100% take that chance with a late lottery pick; **** trying to get the next Olynyk cuz he’ll help more now.

In fairness to Poku, he's got more meat on his legs compared to 2013 Giannis, and I love his skillset for a big man.



There's just no guarantee he can bulk up like Giannis, who was already muscular despite the thin frame he had back then.

Interesting to see who DA and Zarren have on their big board.

[SmartWentCrazy]

Some of you lost the right to criticize Ainge for passing on Giannis in favor of Olynyk.



Yah, he looked two years away from being 2 years away. His frame sucked, his legs had no mass. He played in a **** league. But guess what— their are only so many human beings on this Earth that combined his height, fluidity and BBIQ. You 100% take that chance with a late lottery pick; **** trying to get the next Olynyk cuz he’ll help more now.

In fairness to Poku, he's got more meat on his legs compared to 2013 Giannis, and I love his skillset for a big man.



There's just no guarantee he can bulk up like Giannis, who was already muscular despite the thin frame he had back then.

Interesting to see who DA and Zarren have on their big board.

Theres no guarantee at all; however, we have the 14th pick in a crap draft thats very similar to 2013. This is our last shot at taking a home run swing. Passing on a potential unicorn to get a guy who can contribute right away is ludicrous to me.

[TheMartian]

OK Ladies and GENTS!!

rank these late firsts/2nd rd centers for Boston please. in NO ORDER

1 - Zeke Nnaji PF – Arizona – Ht – 6-11 – Wt – 230 – Wing – 7-1 – Fr – Nnaji has great mobility and a good scoring touch. He’s got a quick first step and is able to blow by defenders with the dribble and outmaneuver for rebounds. Shoots the ball well.

2 - Isaiah Stewart PF – Washington –
Ht – 6-9 – Wt – 247 – Wing – 7-4 – Fr – Stewart is destined for a long NBA career but he might not be an All Star level player. He should be able to contribute early thanks to his NBA ready frame and hard work on the boards.

3 - Paul Reed PF – DePual – Ht – 6-9 – Wt – 210 – Wing – NA – Jr – Has intriguing length and agility and has developed into a dangerous pick and pop threat. Can defend at the rim and is one of the best overall defenders in the class

4 - Daniel Oturu C – Minnesota – Ht – 6-10 – Wt – 240 – Wing – NA – So – Oturu had a breakout sophomore season, scoring the rock at a high clip and continuing to rebound and block shots at an elite level.

5 - Xavier Tillman PF – Michigan State – Ht – 6-8 – Wt – 245 – Wing – NA – Sr –
A glue-guy, hard-nosed player and standout defender with a high basketball

1. Paul Reed
2. Daniel Oturu
3. Xavier Tillman
4. Zeke Nnaji
5. Isaiah Stewart

[TheMartian]

Some of you lost the right to criticize Ainge for passing on Giannis in favor of Olynyk.



Yah, he looked two years away from being 2 years away. His frame sucked, his legs had no mass. He played in a **** league. But guess what— their are only so many human beings on this Earth that combined his height, fluidity and BBIQ. You 100% take that chance with a late lottery pick; **** trying to get the next Olynyk cuz he’ll help more now.

In fairness to Poku, he's got more meat on his legs compared to 2013 Giannis, and I love his skillset for a big man.



There's just no guarantee he can bulk up like Giannis, who was already muscular despite the thin frame he had back then.

Interesting to see who DA and Zarren have on their big board.

Theres no guarantee at all; however, we have the 14th pick in a crap draft thats very similar to 2013. This is our last shot at taking a home run swing. Passing on a potential unicorn to get a guy who can contribute right away is ludicrous to me.

Do you think he'll be gone before we pick at 26?

[TheMartian]

Now this is a big man that I hope lands with the Celtics. He could be our big man for the future.

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[JHTruth]

at #14 I'm starting to fall in love with Precious. I see some Jerami Grant in him. I see some Harrell in him. I really feel like his skill-set and energy would fit in really nicely in Boston

Yep he’s been one of my favorites forever now. He’s the closest thing you’ll find to a bit like Bam in this draft who can switch everything defensively and just rim run on offense.

He was also more of a wing in HS but Penny had him playing center which is where he’ll thrive in the NBA

There are no Bams in this draft and trying to find the next one is how you make mistakes. He’s closer to Harrell than he is to Bam.

Bam was the 14th pick. Miami just actually believes in and develops their young players.

We have to remember Brad doesn't develop players outside the top 5-6. Unless they're almost a finished product like Grant Williams coming in, you can forget about them getting developmental minutes. That's why if you want them to play at all, they have to be pretty far along.

[JHTruth]

In fairness to Poku, he's got more meat on his legs compared to 2013 Giannis, and I love his skillset for a big man.



There's just no guarantee he can bulk up like Giannis, who was already muscular despite the thin frame he had back then.

Interesting to see who DA and Zarren have on their big board.

Theres no guarantee at all; however, we have the 14th pick in a crap draft thats very similar to 2013. This is our last shot at taking a home run swing. Passing on a potential unicorn to get a guy who can contribute right away is ludicrous to me.

Do you think he'll be gone before we pick at 26?

LOL you think this guy would actually play under Brad Stevens?

[SmartWentCrazy]

In fairness to Poku, he's got more meat on his legs compared to 2013 Giannis, and I love his skillset for a big man.



There's just no guarantee he can bulk up like Giannis, who was already muscular despite the thin frame he had back then.

Interesting to see who DA and Zarren have on their big board.

Theres no guarantee at all; however, we have the 14th pick in a crap draft thats very similar to 2013. This is our last shot at taking a home run swing. Passing on a potential unicorn to get a guy who can contribute right away is ludicrous to me.

Do you think he'll be gone before we pick at 26?

100%

[TheMartian]

Theres no guarantee at all; however, we have the 14th pick in a crap draft thats very similar to 2013. This is our last shot at taking a home run swing. Passing on a potential unicorn to get a guy who can contribute right away is ludicrous to me.

Do you think he'll be gone before we pick at 26?

LOL you think this guy would actually play under Brad Stevens?

Why not? The kid has skills that many players his size and age don't. Are his flaws unfixable to the point that he won't see time on the Celtics? I don't think so. If Semi can see playing time with the Celtics, I don't see how a much more talented player in Poku cannot.