OT Bears 2019/20 season

[dougthonus]

This performance byFoles really soured my optimism. Idk how much longer this defense can suffer.

The colts game kicked possibly the hardest stretch of games for any team in the league. Our easiest game would be the panthers and they are playing better than people expected

Yeah, Bears have beaten 3 nobodies. They're going to need to beat some real teams to do that, but it isn't crazy to think they could. Foles probably isn't quite as bad as this game made him look.

I'm not psyched about how good the Bears are, but I'm also not surprised. I thought they were a 9-7 to 7-9 type team going into this season, and that feels about right so far still.

[patryk7754]

I think Manning would be a good HC as well

[dougthonus]

I think Manning would be a good HC as well

Peyton?

I think he could maybe be a good head coach, but the NFL is not the NBA, you don't become a head coach without a ton of coaching experience IMO. It seems pretty uncommon for star QBs to become head coaches, most likely because Peyton can probably make just as much money on TV with 1/10th the work and without having to pay his dues for a decade as an assistant.

In terms of coaching in the NFL, Jim Harbaugh is the only modernish era player I can think of that went on to be a head coach.

[ATRAIN53]

I like the trend of bringing in recently retired players as coaches like TN did with Vrabel

I'd call Clay Matthews and ask him if he wants to run the Bears and come at Green Bay.
He's very salty how that ended in GB. Guy thinks he should have been a Packer for life and on the fast track to the HOF.
Injuries killed him - but he's a firey guy and I want my Bears head coach to really, really, really hate Green Bay.

Hou is gonna steal Eric Bieniemy, he's a good fit for Watson.

also - that Chiefs vs Pats game sucked
They should have been postponed or they should have made Mahomes play with one arm tied behind his back.
Or forced KC to start their backup.

That game was too important to go down like that. What a joke.

[patryk7754]

I think Manning would be a good HC as well

Peyton?

I think he could maybe be a good head coach, but the NFL is not the NBA, you don't become a head coach without a ton of coaching experience IMO. It seems pretty uncommon for star QBs to become head coaches, most likely because Peyton can probably make just as much money on TV with 1/10th the work and without having to pay his dues for a decade as an assistant.

In terms of coaching in the NFL, Jim Harbaugh is the only modernish era player I can think of that went on to be a head coach.

Yes Peyton. I agree that it’s near impossible to become HC with no coaching and do it successfully in the NFL but I think Manning is different. He might be the most respected player of all time so he won’t have to “earn his dues” in that respect. Players would love to play for Manning. Similarly to Dion Sanders. And as for coaching experience, according to everyone in the nfl lyes basically been an OC for a large part of his career. Idk if you ever listen to Pat MacAfee but from time to time he’ll give behind the scenes looks into what it was like playing with Manning and, according to MacFee, Manning would run practices like the HC. I think the way he commands respect and is probably the most intelligent athlete ever of any sport gives him a unique chance of being successful as a HC with HC experience.

As far as the TV thing, I believe I read or watched something implying Manning turned down ESPN because he wanted a GM position. I’ve also heard that being on ESPN has an outrageous schedule so that could be another reason why he turned down the job

[Dresden]

I like the trend of bringing in recently retired players as coaches like TN did with Vrabel

I'd call Clay Matthews and ask him if he wants to run the Bears and come at Green Bay.
He's very salty how that ended in GB. Guy thinks he should have been a Packer for life and on the fast track to the HOF.
Injuries killed him - but he's a firey guy and I want my Bears head coach to really, really, really hate Green Bay.

Hou is gonna steal Eric Bieniemy, he's a good fit for Watson.

also - that Chiefs vs Pats game sucked
They should have been postponed or they should have made Mahomes play with one arm tied behind his back.
Or forced KC to start their backup.

That game was too important to go down like that. What a joke.

I get your point, but I was happy to see it being played. It let Belichek have another opportunity to show everyone what a genius he is. Instead, he played the wrong quarterback and the over-rated Julian Edelman gave the game away by handing the Chiefs an easy pick 6 late in the game.

[Jeffster81]

I think Manning would be a good HC as well

Pyeton is enjoying his post-football life way-too-much to get back into the sport especially as a HC.

[transplant]

Peyton Manning could probably be the NFL Commissioner if he wanted the job. He ain't gonna be the Bears HC.

Nagy's a good HC. By all accounts, he's done a great job of keeping his team together during an extraordinarily difficult period and his players completely believe in him.

My guess is that neither Pace nor Nagy are in any immediate danger of losing their jobs.

[Dresden]

Peyton Manning could probably be the NFL Commissioner if he wanted the job. He ain't gonna be the Bears HC.

Nagy's a good HC. By all accounts, he's done a great job of keeping his team together during an extraordinarily difficult period and his players completely believe in him.

My guess is that neither Pace nor Nagy are in any immediate danger of losing their jobs.

But his offense has sucked for most of 3 years now.

[dougthonus]

But his offense has sucked for most of 3 years now.

I don't know that Nagy is any good. I don't believe anyone would have a good offense with the Bears skill players.

[johnnyvann840]

I think Manning would be a good HC as well

Peyton?

I think he could maybe be a good head coach, but the NFL is not the NBA, you don't become a head coach without a ton of coaching experience IMO. It seems pretty uncommon for star QBs to become head coaches, most likely because Peyton can probably make just as much money on TV with 1/10th the work and without having to pay his dues for a decade as an assistant.

In terms of coaching in the NFL, Jim Harbaugh is the only modernish era player I can think of that went on to be a head coach.

And Harbaugh has coaching in his DNA. His father was a lifetime football coach and his brother is a great coach also.

[dice]

football outsiders unsurprisingly have bears now as underdogs to make playoffs:

82% pack
81% seahawks
70% bucs
64% saints
62% rams
49% cowboys

41% bears
33% eagles
29% niners
23% cards
14% football team
14% vikings
12% lions

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/nfl/playoff-odds

[Betta Bulleavit]

football outsiders unsurprisingly have bears now as underdogs to make playoffs:

82% pack
81% seahawks
70% bucs
64% saints
62% rams
49% cowboys

41% bears
33% eagles
29% niners
23% cards
14% football team
14% vikings
12% lions

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/nfl/playoff-odds

Aren’t there now 7 teams that will qualify? That’d put the Bears in by those odds...right?

[Dresden]

But his offense has sucked for most of 3 years now.

I don't know that Nagy is any good. I don't believe anyone would have a good offense with the Bears skill players.

I don't know about that. It's hard to tell if it's the players or the coach at this point, IMO. I think their receivers aren't bad. The QB certainly is a big question mark.

[dougthonus]

But his offense has sucked for most of 3 years now.

I don't know that Nagy is any good. I don't believe anyone would have a good offense with the Bears skill players.

I don't know about that. It's hard to tell if it's the players or the coach at this point, IMO. I think their receivers aren't bad. The QB certainly is a big question mark.

Nagy might be awful. I'm certainly not defending Nagy as a coach and trying to convince you he's good.

The players are definitely awful.

[CBS7]

But his offense has sucked for most of 3 years now.

I don't know that Nagy is any good. I don't believe anyone would have a good offense with the Bears skill players.

I don't know about that. It's hard to tell if it's the players or the coach at this point, IMO. I think their receivers aren't bad. The QB certainly is a big question mark.

WR/TEs have definitely been lackluster this season. Maybe not outright bad, but definitely below average. Robinson had 2 big catches that turned into picks and some drops. Miller has dropped 2 TD passes and a few more. Graham is close to useless outside of goal line situations. Mooney is good, for a rookie, which isn't good overall (yet). Rest aren't noteworthy.

[Dresden]

I don't know that Nagy is any good. I don't believe anyone would have a good offense with the Bears skill players.

I don't know about that. It's hard to tell if it's the players or the coach at this point, IMO. I think their receivers aren't bad. The QB certainly is a big question mark.

WR/TEs have definitely been lackluster this season. Maybe not outright bad, but definitely below average. Robinson had 2 big catches that turned into picks and some drops. Miller has dropped 2 TD passes and a few more. Graham is close to useless outside of goal line situations. Mooney is good, for a rookie, which isn't good overall (yet). Rest aren't noteworthy.

Good QB's seem to be able to turn dross into fine gold though. Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers have been without important receivers due to injuries, and it's hardly slowed them down.

[CBS7]

Offense still has no identity after 2.25 years under Nagy. We have 0 rushing TDs this season. 5th in passing attempts but 21st in yards. 24th in yards overall. 25th in scoring. Defense may carry us to 9-7 or 10-6 but we aren't winning a playoff game until the offense picks up the slack.

[CBS7]

I don't know about that. It's hard to tell if it's the players or the coach at this point, IMO. I think their receivers aren't bad. The QB certainly is a big question mark.

WR/TEs have definitely been lackluster this season. Maybe not outright bad, but definitely below average. Robinson had 2 big catches that turned into picks and some drops. Miller has dropped 2 TD passes and a few more. Graham is close to useless outside of goal line situations. Mooney is good, for a rookie, which isn't good overall (yet). Rest aren't noteworthy.

Good QB's seem to be able to turn dross into fine gold though. Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers have been without important receivers due to injuries, and it's hardly slowed them down.

Oh for sure. A HOF, top tier QB will make these guys look good to great. But there aren't many guys that will, and we don't have one.

[the ultimates]

It's coaching and scheme which falls on Nagy. Nagy is the type of playcaller who seemingly can't put a gameplan together unless he has every toy to play with. He can't seemingly call a consistent game if he doesn't have a speed receiver, pass-catching tight end and a pass-catching running back that runs inside zone. I don't think the talent level offensively is so much worse than in 2018 when they made the playoffs.