2020 Draft Thread, Part 2

[KevinMcreynolds]

can't believe we have to wait another 5 weeks for this effing draft

[Mylie10]

It’s pathetic. They have no reason not to speed this thing up. I’m sure the Lakers and Heat staffs are competent enough to get on board quickly with draft issues. No reason to push it out that far.

[AdonalFoyle4Prez]

Vassell is still interesting as a defender and shooter, but he's not a ball handler, not a slasher, not adept around the basket, is light and doesn't show much strength in the way he plays. Because of his lack of a ball handling attacking game he doesn't draw many fouls.

There are reasons he's a mid-round pick in most projections.

Yeah, I'd say he'll get picked up between 10- 15 draft slot, to be honest. A defender (Shown great motor and discipline for a 19 year old) and shooter (Shot above 40% from 3pt last season). That's probably the minimum requirement for a wing. He's shown flashes of taking it to the rim and passing, but definitely needs to work on it (The potential's there). Yes, his physical stature will need to mature, but that's a given.

I like what I saw from him in terms of physical tools and potential on offense. I'd say his floor is Glenn Robinson III (3&D player). His ceiling is potentially Jimmy Butler/Kawhi Leonard when (Yes, I said "When") he refines and develops his offensive game.

But, I see that this team isn't willing to wait for him to blossom.

[Free Ballin]

I don’t know if it is just me, but I see a little Paul George in Vassell. He has that smooth slithery type movement similar to George. Of course I am not saying he will be a PG13 level talent, but his game could be similar. The body will fill out in time and he will need to work on his handle but that is what I see. Of course you can’t take him at 2 praying for a trade down with the Knicks, Suns or Pistons.

[AdonalFoyle4Prez]

I don’t know if it is just me, but I see a little Paul George in Vassell. He has that smooth slithery type movement similar to George. Of course I am not saying he will be a PG13 level talent, but his game could be similar. The body will fill out in time and he will need to work on his handle but that is what I see. Of course you can’t take him at 2 praying for a trade down with the Knicks, Suns or Pistons.

And the pick-pocketing/good hands in anticipation of steals and the vertical jump to contest shots all the while using his length to block shots like Kawhi. Both PG13 and Kawhi were taken 10th or later because they needed to refine their skillset a bit. That's what I see from Vassell.

[Little Digger]

No longer in Wishy Washy mode

Barring a trade, I’m down to Wiseman or Okoro for the Dub’s

[ILOVEIT]

3 and D wings baby....

[Mylie10]

No longer in Wishy Washy mode

Barring a trade, I’m down to Wiseman or Okoro for the Dub’s

Let’s get both

[ShayDee]

No longer in Wishy Washy mode

Barring a trade, I’m down to Wiseman or Okoro for the Dub’s

Let’s get both

Hawks need to cooperate man

[whatisacenter]

only 5 weeks to go and if they don't trade down or out I am back to taking whoever is left between Wiseman and Edwards, I would be surprised if Ball goes number 1 but if he does I would take Wiseman over Edwards.

[Scoots1994]

No longer in Wishy Washy mode

Barring a trade, I’m down to Wiseman or Okoro for the Dub’s

Let’s get both

That would be great

[Onus]

No longer in Wishy Washy mode

Barring a trade, I’m down to Wiseman or Okoro for the Dub’s

Let’s get both

That would be great

If okoro were 6’8” I’d Buy drafting him 2. But at 6’6” with a 6’8” ws he really could become a smaller Stanley Johnson. But he was on the no 1 team in hs and on a really good auburn team. He’s kind of like another draymond but without the extra long arms.

[whatisacenter]

Let’s get both

That would be great

If okoro were 6’8” I’d Buy drafting him 2. But at 6’6” with a 6’8” ws he really could become a smaller Stanley Johnson. But he was on the no 1 team in hs and on a really good auburn team. He’s kind of like another draymond but without the extra long arms.

Yeah, I went down the rabbit hole on Okoro last night but came away wondering if #2 was too high. I did not realize that he shot 40% from 3 in his last 5 games of the season. Loved this breakdown with Schmitz...

Edit: Just looked at his game logs and this is not true...he shot 30% from 3

Watch on YouTube

[Mylie10]

Let’s get both

That would be great

If okoro were 6’8” I’d Buy drafting him 2. But at 6’6” with a 6’8” ws he really could become a smaller Stanley Johnson. But he was on the no 1 team in hs and on a really good auburn team. He’s kind of like another draymond but without the extra long arms.

I think he’s more than Stanley Johnson simply from the standpoint that he’s an Alpha Dog. You can’t have to many of those guys.

[Onus]

That would be great

If okoro were 6’8” I’d Buy drafting him 2. But at 6’6” with a 6’8” ws he really could become a smaller Stanley Johnson. But he was on the no 1 team in hs and on a really good auburn team. He’s kind of like another draymond but without the extra long arms.

I think he’s more than Stanley Johnson simply from the standpoint that he’s an Alpha Dog. You can’t have to many of those guys.

His offensive game is really bad. It’s like Westbrook level but he isn’t quite the same athlete that Westbrook is. So maybe he can become a Marcus smart if he works on his shooting but a smaller Stanley Johnson is on the table.

[northoakland510]

Get a real big man at #2. These switchable players shouldn't be in the conversation at #2. Against the Lakers and Denver they wouldn't provide much anyways.

[ILOVEIT]

Warriors need to get guys that are > 6'9" 240. Need some dudes that can hurt folks....we got skills covered.

[AdonalFoyle4Prez]

MLE options:

Power Forwards:
1) Paul Milsap
2) Patrick Patterson
3) Anthony Tolliver (Steph's homeboy!)

OR

Centers:
1) Nerlens Noel
2) Aron Baynes (Can stretch the floor)
3) Tristan Thompson

[jason bourne]

Man, it could be that AntMan is dropping because he chose not to participate in the combine interviews. It could be he is similar to Dion Waiters because he hasn't won anything and forgets plays and actions per Jonathan Wasserman of B/R. Dion Waiters could now be his floor .

"... executives from different clubs are concerned about Edwards’ commitment to winning:

Scouts and executives have mentioned that his teams haven’t won at any level and that he even forgets plays and actions. Despite media projections and upside that everyone acknowledges, he has a shaky reputation within NBA circles. Dion Waiters has been used by skeptics as a comparison or low-end outcome for Edwards, an inefficient scorer at Georgia whose Bulldogs finished 13 of 14 teams in the SEC."

https://www.goldenstateofmind.com/2020/9/30/21494654/warriors-2020-nba-draft-conern-about-edwards

Wasserman previous had Anthony Edwards going #1 in his mock draft.

BTW, why isn't Onyeka Okongwu not mentioned by those who want a big man? It sounds to me Wiseman fans are basing it on strictly measurements.

[Scoots1994]

Man, it could be that AntMan is dropping because he chose not to participate in the combine interviews. It could be he is similar to Dion Waiters because he hasn't won anything and forgets plays and actions per Jonathan Wasserman of B/R. Dion Waiters could now be his floor .

"... executives from different clubs are concerned about Edwards’ commitment to winning:

Scouts and executives have mentioned that his teams haven’t won at any level and that he even forgets plays and actions. Despite media projections and upside that everyone acknowledges, he has a shaky reputation within NBA circles. Dion Waiters has been used by skeptics as a comparison or low-end outcome for Edwards, an inefficient scorer at Georgia whose Bulldogs finished 13 of 14 teams in the SEC."

https://www.goldenstateofmind.com/2020/9/30/21494654/warriors-2020-nba-draft-conern-about-edwards

Wasserman previous had Anthony Edwards going #1 in his mock draft.

BTW, why isn't Onyeka Okongwu not mentioned by those who want a big man? It sounds to me Wiseman fans are basing it on strictly measurements.

Okongwu is mentioned all over the place and has been discussed here. He has issues too. Yes size is one of them, but offensive potential is the biggest when comparing him to Wiseman.

I'd like to get a wing/guard at the top of the draft and find a way into the bottom of the first for someone like Jalen Smith.