2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2

[LarSiN]

I can't really see Masai bringing in Isaac, after his "I'm too christian to support BLM" stance tbh. Sure, he's a great talent, but he's also coming back from injury, with questionable reasoning for not supporting a cause that is integral to TOR and the NBA. I don't see it.

https://deadspin.com/jonathan-isaac-is-free-to-not-kneel-but-as-a-christian-1844582089

[Oakvillehoops]

I can't really see Masai bringing in Isaac, after his "I'm too christian to support BLM" stance tbh. Sure, he's a great talent, but he's also coming back from injury, with questionable reasoning for not supporting a cause that is integral to TOR and the NBA. I don't see it.

https://deadspin.com/jonathan-isaac-is-free-to-not-kneel-but-as-a-christian-1844582089

That’s the most ridiculous reason ever not to bring in a player. He has every right to believe what he thinks is right, and just because you don’t personally understand it, doesn’t make him wrong


Also he never said he doesn’t support black lives, what he said essentially meant he has his own way of standing up for things, and that his way doesn’t have to look the same as everyone else’s.

[LarSiN]

I can't really see Masai bringing in Isaac, after his "I'm too christian to support BLM" stance tbh. Sure, he's a great talent, but he's also coming back from injury, with questionable reasoning for not supporting a cause that is integral to TOR and the NBA. I don't see it.

https://deadspin.com/jonathan-isaac-is-free-to-not-kneel-but-as-a-christian-1844582089

That’s the most ridiculous reason ever not to bring in a player. He has every right to believe what he thinks is right, and just because you don’t personally understand it, doesn’t make him wrong


Also he never said he doesn’t support black lives, what he said essentially meant he has his own way of standing up for things, and that his way doesn’t have to look the same as everyone else’s.

I completely understand it, but as a Christian, I personally think hiding behind religion is extremely weak reasoning.

I also think it (and his major injury) may give Masai pause, and I wouldn't blame him in the slightest.

But like I said, he's talented, and he has every right to believe what he believes.

[youngthegiant]

How much do you guys think Boucher gets?

[douggood]

How much do you guys think Boucher gets?

2 yr 7
3.3$/$3.7 second year a team option.

[tdotrep2]

I can't really see Masai bringing in Isaac, after his "I'm too christian to support BLM" stance tbh. Sure, he's a great talent, but he's also coming back from injury, with questionable reasoning for not supporting a cause that is integral to TOR and the NBA. I don't see it.

https://deadspin.com/jonathan-isaac-is-free-to-not-kneel-but-as-a-christian-1844582089

i think its exactly the opposite, you think masai is that type of person. He'll accept Isaac for what he believes as he should, Masai is that type of person. The locker room will also accept Isaac for who he is its that type of team we have.

[LoveMyRaps]

I can't really see Masai bringing in Isaac, after his "I'm too christian to support BLM" stance tbh. Sure, he's a great talent, but he's also coming back from injury, with questionable reasoning for not supporting a cause that is integral to TOR and the NBA. I don't see it.

https://deadspin.com/jonathan-isaac-is-free-to-not-kneel-but-as-a-christian-1844582089

But you think Masai would bring in Montrezz Harrell who made a racist remark during the playoffs?

[pr0gr4m]

What about preparing for the 2022 draft?

We have to liquify our talent somehow. So how about the following,

Powell to Cavs for MIL 2022 1st + 3 2022 2nds

Ibaka (re-signed at 15M) for Schroder + 2022 LAC 1st, 2022 OKC 1st (suspect they will get desperate for a stretch big around the deadline)


We part ways with Powell to increase our capspace. Powell can be replaced by a cheaper Davis.

I would send Ibaka off as well at the trade deadline to a situation where he can compete and we get picks like OKC.

The Raptors would have 7 picks in a stacked draft class. I would trust the development system we have and Masai to use them on good prospects that could be internally developed.

I would consider that to be the most realistic option for the Raptors in the off-season and would also entail us bringing back Gasol and FVV. I would also consider flipping him for picks as well if the opportunity came.

I would also draft Tillman and Cassius Winston this year.

Gasol/Tillman
Siakam/MLE?
OG/Watson
Lowry/Davis/Thomas
FVV/Winston

The Raptors gain a lot here. It would be a retooling year but would help the Raptors prepare for the following season. Gasol can mentor Tillman who I think can be similar to a less athletic Adebayo for the Raptors as Lowry could also for Winston.

You can’t trade Powell for just draft picks lol. Salaries need to be close for a trade to happen with CBA rules.

They have cap space.

[Psubs]

How much do you guys think Boucher gets?

2 yr 7
3.3$/$3.7 second year a team option.

Give him another min contract for 1 year or let him walk.

If you're going to spend that little bit more, go after Jeff Green. He'll take a 1 year deal.

[AbC?]

Some possible Norman Powell trades. IMO he is an extremely valuable trade piece to a contender or a growing team looking for a young vet to complement their nucleus. Valuable also because teams with their star players locked in can go over the cap to re-sign him. Only 27 years old and just about to his his peak years.

Why not keep just keep him? We need to add a max free agent if we're serious about contending and his cap hold when he opts out of his player option will be 16 million, too expensive to work around.

The return the Raptors should be looking for IMO is an expiring contract, a decent player on a rookie contract and/or a 1st round pick. Just throwing these out there, I'm not sure if I'd accept but just the general framework of what I'd expect.

Pelicans trade:


You get Josh Hart who is a solid role player on his rookie contract past 2021. JJ Redick can be flipped at the trade deadline to a contender for even more assets. New Orleans does this because Norman Powell fits their timeline much better than JJ.

Sixers trade:


Sixers are all in with their core. They are capped out. The only way they can better is through trade. No one is taking that Horford contract. They add a 40% 3 point shooter to complement Embiid/Simmons who they can go over the cap to re-sign in 2021. We get Thybulle on a rookie contact. IMO he's kinda overhyped but the main thing is he contributes on a cheap rookie deal. Norm would be an insanely good fit next to Simmons or a perfect 6th man for them.

Nets:

+2 late firsts from the Nets (they have the Clippers pick too)

Nets are all-in to win a championship in the next few years. Adding Norm for scraps + picks is a great addition for them. Raptors add 2 possible cheap contributors but mainly they get the 1st rounders.

[TheAlchemist]

I can't really see Masai bringing in Isaac, after his "I'm too christian to support BLM" stance tbh. Sure, he's a great talent, but he's also coming back from injury, with questionable reasoning for not supporting a cause that is integral to TOR and the NBA. I don't see it.

https://deadspin.com/jonathan-isaac-is-free-to-not-kneel-but-as-a-christian-1844582089

That’s the most ridiculous reason ever not to bring in a player. He has every right to believe what he thinks is right, and just because you don’t personally understand it, doesn’t make him wrong


Also he never said he doesn’t support black lives, what he said essentially meant he has his own way of standing up for things, and that his way doesn’t have to look the same as everyone else’s.

Lmao. Lets decide on player personell moves now, based upon political affiliations and beliefs.

Hahaha, how wack this league and it's fans have gotten.

[TheAlchemist]

Some possible Norman Powell trades. IMO he is an extremely valuable trade piece to a contender or a growing team looking for a young vet to complement their nucleus. Valuable also because teams with their star players locked in can go over the cap to re-sign him. Only 27 years old and just about to his his peak years.

Why not keep just keep him? We need to add a max free agent if we're serious about contending and his cap hold when he opts out of his player option will be 16 million, too expensive to work around.

The return the Raptors should be looking for IMO is an expiring contract, a decent player on a rookie contract and/or a 1st round pick. Just throwing these out there, I'm not sure if I'd accept but just the general framework of what I'd expect.

Pelicans trade:


You get Josh Hart who is a solid role player on his rookie contract past 2021. JJ Redick can be flipped at the trade deadline to a contender for even more assets. New Orleans does this because Norman Powell fits their timeline much better than JJ.

Sixers trade:


Sixers are all in with their core. They are capped out. The only way they can better is through trade. No one is taking that Horford contract. They add a 40% 3 point shooter to complement Embiid/Simmons who they can go over the cap to re-sign in 2021. We get Thybulle on a rookie contact. IMO he's kinda overhyped but the main thing is he contributes on a cheap rookie deal. Norm would be an insanely good fit next to Simmons or a perfect 6th man for them.

Nets:

+2 late firsts from the Nets (they have the Clippers pick too)

Nets are all-in to win a championship in the next few years. Adding Norm for scraps + picks is a great addition for them. Raptors add 2 possible cheap contributors but mainly they get the 1st rounders.

I like the Josh Hart trade. I really think that's a good move as JJ wants to play for us, and Hart is a great player. We also needs a 3/4 so that's good too.

Powell might be leveraged with another player to get a star though. So these moves might seem lateral.

[LBJKB24MJ23]

I like the Josh Hart trade. I really think that's a good move as JJ wants to play for us, and Hart is a great player. We also needs a 3/4 so that's good too.

Powell might be leveraged with another player to get a star though. So these moves might seem lateral.

no way they trade Josh Hart and Reddick for Powell (and McCaw) Pelicans trying to reach playoffs too.

value wise, Hart and Redick seem better than Powell, now and long term.

[StopitLeo]

I like the Josh Hart trade. I really think that's a good move as JJ wants to play for us, and Hart is a great player. We also needs a 3/4 so that's good too.

Powell might be leveraged with another player to get a star though. So these moves might seem lateral.

no way they trade Josh Hart and Reddick for Powell (and McCaw) Pelicans trying to reach playoffs too.

value wise, Hart and Redick seem better than Powell, now and long term.

I agree. While I like the deal for Toronto, I don't see why the Pelicans would make it.

[LarSiN]

I can't really see Masai bringing in Isaac, after his "I'm too christian to support BLM" stance tbh. Sure, he's a great talent, but he's also coming back from injury, with questionable reasoning for not supporting a cause that is integral to TOR and the NBA. I don't see it.

https://deadspin.com/jonathan-isaac-is-free-to-not-kneel-but-as-a-christian-1844582089

But you think Masai would bring in Montrezz Harrell who made a racist remark during the playoffs?

Where did I say ANYTHING about Harrell ? Don't reach too far bud

[LarSiN]

I can't really see Masai bringing in Isaac, after his "I'm too christian to support BLM" stance tbh. Sure, he's a great talent, but he's also coming back from injury, with questionable reasoning for not supporting a cause that is integral to TOR and the NBA. I don't see it.

https://deadspin.com/jonathan-isaac-is-free-to-not-kneel-but-as-a-christian-1844582089

That’s the most ridiculous reason ever not to bring in a player. He has every right to believe what he thinks is right, and just because you don’t personally understand it, doesn’t make him wrong


Also he never said he doesn’t support black lives, what he said essentially meant he has his own way of standing up for things, and that his way doesn’t have to look the same as everyone else’s.

Lmao. Lets decide on player personell moves now, based upon political affiliations and beliefs.

Hahaha, how wack this league and it's fans have gotten.

Missed the part about "coming back from injury" I guess?? Dude tore his ACL, that's already a LOT to come back from.

I never said what Masai should or will do, but he and TOR have very strong ties to BLM & Isaac distanced himself.

I'm not some 20-something Social Justice Warrior, I just don't see us bringing in Isaac. If we do, I'll welcome him.

[pr0gr4m]

Would you do Lowry for Wiggins + 2 for Edwards. Let FVV walk and completely rebuild next year. I would grab a veteran point guard at 59 like Winston and sign someone with the MLE.

Re-sign Gasol for 1 year.
Teague for 1 year MLE

Siakam/Gasol
OG/Woodard
Wiggins/Woodard
Powell /Edwards
Teague/Davis/Winston

Powell + Wiggins for CP3

Giannis
Siakam
OG
Edwards/Davis
CP3/Winston

I would be pretty confident with Winston at the PG spot. He could learn a lot playing under CP3 and having Edwards grow with OG would be lethal on the wings. Giannis and Siakam are pretty similar though and the limited shooting would be concerning but from a pure talent POV that is a lethal squad.

[baller16]

Man looking at our cap for 2022, it **** sucks that Siakam is getting massively overpaid at 36 mil. If we hadn't extended him last year, we'd probably be getting him at 26-30 mill. But again that's in hindsight, I can't see him playing this bad if it was contract year for him. He'd probably be in the gym all day making sure he gets that bag.

Assuming we get Giannis, we have a lot less to work with in building a contender unless we move Siakam for an all-star wing or guard. This is why we take the gamble on Dipo right now. If he sucks he can leave but if he's back in form, we can re-sign him and package Siakam (whose probably gonna bounce back next season) for Beal. I have a feeling that Giannis wants Siakam though.

Or we get lucky and sign one of these

Elite FA Wings/Guards 2021:

Kawhi
PG
Jrue


Kawhi & Giannis is a pipe dream. We can only dream lol but that's a future dynasty right there. 1% chance of happening

[sidsid]

Some possible Norman Powell trades. IMO he is an extremely valuable trade piece to a contender or a growing team looking for a young vet to complement their nucleus. Valuable also because teams with their star players locked in can go over the cap to re-sign him. Only 27 years old and just about to his his peak years.

Why not keep just keep him? We need to add a max free agent if we're serious about contending and his cap hold when he opts out of his player option will be 16 million, too expensive to work around.

The return the Raptors should be looking for IMO is an expiring contract, a decent player on a rookie contract and/or a 1st round pick. Just throwing these out there, I'm not sure if I'd accept but just the general framework of what I'd expect.

Pelicans trade:


You get Josh Hart who is a solid role player on his rookie contract past 2021. JJ Redick can be flipped at the trade deadline to a contender for even more assets. New Orleans does this because Norman Powell fits their timeline much better than JJ.

Sixers trade:


Sixers are all in with their core. They are capped out. The only way they can better is through trade. No one is taking that Horford contract. They add a 40% 3 point shooter to complement Embiid/Simmons who they can go over the cap to re-sign in 2021. We get Thybulle on a rookie contact. IMO he's kinda overhyped but the main thing is he contributes on a cheap rookie deal. Norm would be an insanely good fit next to Simmons or a perfect 6th man for them.

Nets:

+2 late firsts from the Nets (they have the Clippers pick too)

Nets are all-in to win a championship in the next few years. Adding Norm for scraps + picks is a great addition for them. Raptors add 2 possible cheap contributors but mainly they get the 1st rounders.

I like the Josh Hart trade. I really think that's a good move as JJ wants to play for us, and Hart is a great player. We also needs a 3/4 so that's good too.

Powell might be leveraged with another player to get a star though. So these moves might seem lateral.

Getting small salary players with a bit of experience is a nice idea. If the best case scenario happens and we get 3 max players + OG's cap hold, it means we'd only have Davis and our first rounders on the roster in 2021. Cap numbers would be tight, but having a few established players who aren't raw rookies on an instant contender is valuable.

[Kingsway_fan]

Raptors need to be more athletic.... any trades or acquisitions need to be done to improve in this regard...