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2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 -- (8PM, Wed, Nov. 18, ESPN)

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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#241 » by Darth Celtic » Thu Oct 8, 2020 6:15 pm

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Best all around big prospect if he can stay healthy in my opinion. He fits the Celtics offense to a tee as well.

Killian Tillie shot 49.0% (24-49) on 'Pick and Pop 3s' over his four years at Gonzaga

Over those four years, he was a career 44.4% (106-239) 3-point shooter.

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Is this another 47 guy? I don't see him listed as drafted in any of the usual mock drafts.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#242 » by threrf23 » Thu Oct 8, 2020 6:18 pm

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Best all around big prospect if he can stay healthy in my opinion. He fits the Celtics offense to a tee as well.

Killian Tillie shot 49.0% (24-49) on 'Pick and Pop 3s' over his four years at Gonzaga

Over those four years, he was a career 44.4% (106-239) 3-point shooter.

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So is Killie a better or worse prospect than Poku?


He's a safer prospect. He'll never be very good IMO but he'll definitely have a place in the league.

A bit of a stiff tho (this is reflected by his poor foul efficiency). Skinny for a 22 y/o guy.

Shoots quite well - as a 6'10 power forward getting open looks against lesser NCAA opponents. But the point is he can hit open shots at a good clip.

On defense, not sure how playable he is on a good team, i.e. Meyers Leonard.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#243 » by flintsky21 » Thu Oct 8, 2020 6:25 pm

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flintsky21 wrote:Let's play a game. If the Celtics could trade the 14th pick to any of the top 7 teams in the draft, which deal would you do?

1. To Minnesota for Malik Beasley
2. To Golden State for Eric Paschall
3. To Charlotte for Miles Bridges
4. To Chicago for Wendell Carter Jr.
5. To Cleveland for Darius Garland
6. To Atlanta for Cam Reddish
7. To Detroit for Luke Kennard


WCJ easily for me, but can’t see why Chicago considers it.

I think if the Bulls fall in love with Wiseman or Okungwu, they might consider moving WCJ. He's been injury-prone too.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#244 » by Bleeding Green » Thu Oct 8, 2020 6:28 pm

Tillie is going to be a very good defender. Not a rim protecting big like everyone wants, though.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#245 » by JHTruth » Thu Oct 8, 2020 6:38 pm

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Best all around big prospect if he can stay healthy in my opinion. He fits the Celtics offense to a tee as well.

Killian Tillie shot 49.0% (24-49) on 'Pick and Pop 3s' over his four years at Gonzaga

Over those four years, he was a career 44.4% (106-239) 3-point shooter.

Read on Twitter
?s=20


So is Killie a better or worse prospect than Poku?

Way better. Pokusevski is like 3-4+ years away from helping a good team. Tillie steps in immediately and is a playmaker on both ends if he's healthy. And looking at his injuries, they're all isolated and non-career threatening as far as I can tell. It's not like he's coming off a microfracture surgery or missing his ACL like DeJuan Blair. Broken finger, preventative knee surgery, stress fracture in his foot. Just get him some calcium and PRP injections all over his body. At 47 he's a no brainer. Put a healthy rookie Tillie in against the Heat and he wrecks their zone.


I wouldn't take his injuries so lightly. NBA teams, all armed with far more data and expertise re: his injuries than RealGM posters will probably take him mid-second round if at all. He's clearly a first-round talent. That should tell us something...
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#246 » by Bleeding Green » Thu Oct 8, 2020 6:47 pm

If he's at 47 that's insane value. Anyone you take at 47 either sucks or has injury concerns. I'll take injuries over suck.

He hasn't been drafted yet so we really don't know what NBA teams, armed with far more data and expertise than us, have to say about him. It's not like he has MPJ back issues or Bol Bol, holy **** this guy could break in half, he's 8 feet tall and played 50 minutes since high school, injury concerns.

If he's healthy, he's great. If he's hurt, add him to the list of 47th picks that Ainge wasted.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#247 » by JHTruth » Thu Oct 8, 2020 6:50 pm

Bleeding Green wrote:If he's at 47 that's insane value. Anyone you take at 47 either sucks or has injury concerns. I'll take injuries over suck.

He hasn't been drafted yet so we really don't know what NBA teams, armed with far more data and expertise than us, have to say about him.


He's almost 23 dude with an injury history. Not sure why he's so great in your eyes but we shall see..
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#248 » by Bleeding Green » Thu Oct 8, 2020 6:51 pm

Because he is the most skilled big in the draft with the best shot and passing ability. Go watch him as the rollman and how effortlessly he makes passes directly off the catch. Celtics haven't had that player in my lifetime. If he's injured and misses 20% of games as he's done til now? Wow, he probably is the healthiest big on the Celtics. Plus there are like five of six posters here, who if they don't like someone, instantly my eyes twitch and I realize, wow this player is probably really good.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#249 » by JHTruth » Thu Oct 8, 2020 6:55 pm

Bleeding Green wrote:Because he is the most skilled big in the draft with the best shot and passing ability. Go watch him as the rollman and how effortlessly he makes passes directly off the catch. Celtics haven't had that player in my lifetime. If he's injured and misses 20% of games as he's done til now? Wow, he probably is the healthiest big on the Celtics. Plus there are like five of six posters here, who if they don't like someone, instantly my eyes twitch and I realize, wow this player is probably really good.


LOL I guess you're the guru. Or is that BostonCouchGM?
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#250 » by Bleeding Green » Thu Oct 8, 2020 6:55 pm

BostonCouch actually has good draft takes at least in terms of players he likes before the draft. I'm no guru.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#251 » by JHTruth » Thu Oct 8, 2020 6:57 pm

Bleeding Green wrote:BostonCouch actually has good draft takes at least in terms of players he likes before the draft.


The guy who thinks Dembouya would have carried the C's to the Finals this year? ROFL :lol: :lol:

What is Tillie's comp?
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#252 » by Spin Move » Thu Oct 8, 2020 7:02 pm

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themoneyteam2 wrote:
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Best all around big prospect if he can stay healthy in my opinion. He fits the Celtics offense to a tee as well.

Killian Tillie shot 49.0% (24-49) on 'Pick and Pop 3s' over his four years at Gonzaga

Over those four years, he was a career 44.4% (106-239) 3-point shooter.

Read on Twitter
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Celtics have probably "talked to" almost every prospect in their range. But this guy is a little intriguing. Injuries are terrifying.


I would take him at 47. He fits in Brad Stevens system.


Definitely not before 47, he is ranked as prosepect #68 by nbadraft.net He doesn;t rebound or block shots so he is limited to being a spot up shooter of the bench in situations where we need just that (iE zone busting). I don't see us taking all 4 picks, but I guess we could do worse at 47. 5 rebounds per game for a 6-10 guy won't cut it. I don;t see us drafting him.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#253 » by Bleeding Green » Thu Oct 8, 2020 7:06 pm

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Bleeding Green wrote:BostonCouch actually has good draft takes at least in terms of players he likes before the draft.


The guy who thinks Dembouya would have carried the C's to the Finals this year? ROFL :lol: :lol:

What is Tillie's comp?

Doumbouya in addition to other players he was calling for before the draft. Clarke and Bazley. Bazley was the best rookie in the bubble and the playoffs, Clarke was basically Shawn Marion as a rookie. SO yeah, probably right there. Doumbouya looks like a bum to me, never got the attraction.

Easy comp is Maxi Kleber.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#254 » by JHTruth » Thu Oct 8, 2020 7:11 pm

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Bleeding Green wrote:BostonCouch actually has good draft takes at least in terms of players he likes before the draft.


The guy who thinks Dembouya would have carried the C's to the Finals this year? ROFL :lol: :lol:

What is Tillie's comp?

Doumbouya in addition to other players he was calling for before the draft. Clarke and Bazley. Bazley was the best rookie in the bubble and the playoffs, Clarke was basically Shawn Marion as a rookie. SO yeah, probably right there. Doumbouya looks like a bum to me, never got the attraction.

Easy comp is Maxi Kleber.


OK could do worse at 47 I guess. Would rather take a banger though. Had my fill of soft jump shooting Cs. Unless my C can beat the league avg from 3 significantly I want him either vertical spacing as a lob threat or banging, rebounding and drawing fouls on the low block.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#255 » by CelticsPride18 » Thu Oct 8, 2020 7:15 pm

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Celtics have probably "talked to" almost every prospect in their range. But this guy is a little intriguing. Injuries are terrifying.


I would take him at 47. He fits in Brad Stevens system.


Definitely not before 47, he is ranked as prosepect #68 by nbadraft.net He doesn;t rebound or block shots so he is limited to being a spot up shooter of the bench in situations where we need just that (iE zone busting). I don't see us taking all 4 picks, but I guess we could do worse at 47. 5 rebounds per game for a 6-10 guy won't cut it. I don;t see us drafting him.


He’s not a rim protector but he has good IQ and solid lateral quickness. He also has an elite touch around the rim. He’s a guy that you could play with Time Lord.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#256 » by Bleeding Green » Thu Oct 8, 2020 7:16 pm

Yeah I would just sign some bum for the vet min if I wanted that and then watch as he just got the Poirier minutes because Theis and WIlliams already do that much better. Tillie's skillset is a lot more expensive to acquire via free agency. Kleber got 10m a season, Olynyk got 12.5m, Bertans is gonna get paid, Bjelica would get paid if he were a FA. The celtics cannot afford to sign this kind of player in FA. If you want a banger for 10-12 minutes a game, just sign Javale McGee for 1.5m. Who is the banging, lob threat C at 47?
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#257 » by playa-hater » Thu Oct 8, 2020 7:38 pm

Bleeding Green wrote:Tillie is going to be a very good defender. Not a rim protecting big like everyone wants, though.


what makes you say that? meanwhile i feel Tillie is a Frank Kaminsky type.. not so sure how much I value that.
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Post#258 » by Bleeding Green » Thu Oct 8, 2020 8:27 pm

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Bleeding Green wrote:Tillie is going to be a very good defender. Not a rim protecting big like everyone wants, though.


what makes you say that? meanwhile i feel Tillie is a Frank Kaminsky type.. not so sure how much I value that.

He's quick laterally, he's smart, he has active hands. Bigs with good passing ability are always good defenders in the NBA. Not a rim protector or a good rebounder, though.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#259 » by BostonCouchGM » Thu Oct 8, 2020 8:36 pm

JHTruth wrote:
Bleeding Green wrote:BostonCouch actually has good draft takes at least in terms of players he likes before the draft.


The guy who thinks Dembouya would have carried the C's to the Finals this year? ROFL :lol: :lol:

What is Tillie's comp?


oh hur dur....ya got me!!! I said he'd carry us to the Finals....oh wait, I didn't. Cute post though
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#260 » by captain green » Thu Oct 8, 2020 10:49 pm

Yurtseven is still higher on the board than Tillie. But there is interest I'd imagine there will be more names confirmed soon
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