Trades and Transactions thread - To the offseason!

[moocow007]

Like I think I've posted (maybe I didn't), a ruptured quad tendon (what Oladipo suffered) is a pretty pretty serious injury. It is generally considered more serious than an torn ACL or a torn patella tendon (and both those injuries are pretty severe for an athlete). It's not ruptured Achilles tendon bad but it's probably next up in the bad injury meter. For a guy like Oladipo who relies on his explosiveness a lot and considering that he's already 28 it's even more likely to be an concern for whichever team he's on. Because of what's involved, the ruptured quad tendon can actually lead to other injuries due to over compensation in other parts around the quad tendon. I would definitely not trade anything of great value for him (no Knicks own 1st round picks, no RJ, no Mitch, etc.) and I would only make any sort of trade if my medical staff believes that he's actually back to 80%+ capacity pre-injury at the time of the trade. Honestly, Randle is fair value. Randle isn't all-star Oladipo, but chances of Oladipo being all-star Oladipo is pretty slim.

[Juco24]

From the Hawks guy who seems to be connected.
* Dantoni seems set to Indy
* Indy is dangling Turner for the top pick... ala Ball
* Dantoni WANTS Ball
* Possible 4 team deal LAL/MIN/ATL/IND

[TGW]

Wizards fan here.

Question for Knicks fans—would you guys be open to a trade that nets the knicks John Wall and the #1 pick for #8, the Mavs pick, and filler contracts?

Just an idea that I was playing with.

[NewYorkPride85]

Wizards fan here.

Question for Knicks fans—would you guys be open to a trade that nets the knicks John Wall and the #1 pick for #8, the Mavs pick, and filler contracts?

Just an idea that I was playing with.

HELL TO THE NO!!!!! Wall's contract is by far one of the worst in the league and you want us to give up multiple picks to get him? Nobody in their right mind would take him or his contract considering how team are cash strapped because of this pandemic. Lol, pass me whatever the hell you are smoking because it must be really good if you ever thought ANY team would take this. Especially in the weakest possible draft ever. I'll give you the #27 pick and Wall for the #1 this year and next year and you got a deal

[moocow007]

Wizards fan here.

Question for Knicks fans—would you guys be open to a trade that nets the knicks John Wall and the #1 pick for #8, the Mavs pick, and filler contracts?

Just an idea that I was playing with.

No freaking way.

Wall is on the wrong side of 30, hasn't played in 2 years and is trying to come back from the worst injury a basketball player in general and him specifically can possibly have. Then you take into consideration that he's got 3 years and $130 million left on his contract and he's absolutely positively the worst contract in the NBA.

And you want the Knicks to give the 8th overall pick and a Dallas 1st?

They don't need Ball that badly.

Wizards ain't getting anything back from anyone in a move like this and its unlikely that they'll find anyone dumb enough to take Wall even if the 1st overall pick is the buy in.

There was no reason for the Wizards to need to give Wall that extension as it is even if he was healthy. Whats happened since made it even worse an idea in hindsight. Wall wasn't going anywhere since the Wizards could have given him more once the time came. The Wizards panicked then and ended up giving him a bad contract. Now that he's injured, its becoming utterly nightmarish now.

Whats the idea? Let me guess...the Wizards move both Beal (goes to the Wolves for the 1st overall pick that is sent to NY) and Wall and ends up netting them the Knicks 8th overall pick and the Dallas pick?

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[RHODEY]

Wizards fan here.

Question for Knicks fans—would you guys be open to a trade that nets the knicks John Wall and the #1 pick for #8, the Mavs pick, and filler contracts?

Just an idea that I was playing with.

[aq_ua]

Wizards fan here.

Question for Knicks fans—would you guys be open to a trade that nets the knicks John Wall and the #1 pick for #8, the Mavs pick, and filler contracts?

Just an idea that I was playing with.

HELL TO THE NO!!!!! Wall's contract is by far one of the worst in the league and you want us to give up multiple picks to get him? Nobody in their right mind would take him or his contract considering how team are cash strapped because of this pandemic. Lol, pass me whatever the hell you are smoking because it must be really good if you ever thought ANY team would take this. Especially in the weakest possible draft ever. I'll give you the #27 pick and Wall for the #1 this year and next year and you got a deal

You're forgetting the opportunity to take on the 15% trade kicker. That'll put him just below 50% of the total salary cap. How do you pass that up?

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Wizards fan here.

Question for Knicks fans—would you guys be open to a trade that nets the knicks John Wall and the #1 pick for #8, the Mavs pick, and filler contracts?

Just an idea that I was playing with.

[-YogiBiz-]

Wizards fan here.

Question for Knicks fans—would you guys be open to a trade that nets the knicks John Wall and the #1 pick for #8, the Mavs pick, and filler contracts?

Just an idea that I was playing with.

You can give us the #9 pick and it still wouldn't be enough to take Wall. But if you add Brown to the deal I am sure we could work something out.

There is no way we should give up multiple Picks for the carcass of John Wall.

We would think about
Randle
#38

For

Wall
Brown Jr.
#9 Overall.

For a start.

Wall is a negative asset. And he's probably the worst negative asset in the league.

[thebuzzardman]

Wizards fan here.

Question for Knicks fans—would you guys be open to a trade that nets the knicks John Wall and the #1 pick for #8, the Mavs pick, and filler contracts?

Just an idea that I was playing with.

Just keep playing with yourself

[moocow007]

Wizards fan here.

Question for Knicks fans—would you guys be open to a trade that nets the knicks John Wall and the #1 pick for #8, the Mavs pick, and filler contracts?

Just an idea that I was playing with.

You can give us the #9 pick and it still wouldn't be enough to take Wall. But if you add Brown to the deal I am sure we could work something out.

There is no way we should give up multiple Picks for the carcass of John Wall.

We would think about
Randle
#38

For

Wall
Brown Jr.
#9 Overall.

For a start.

Wall is a negative asset. And he's probably the worst negative asset in the league.

You forget that we also get the #1 overall pick in his original proposal which would come from Minny for, presumably for Beal.

[-YogiBiz-]

Wizards fan here.

Question for Knicks fans—would you guys be open to a trade that nets the knicks John Wall and the #1 pick for #8, the Mavs pick, and filler contracts?

Just an idea that I was playing with.

You can give us the #9 pick and it still wouldn't be enough to take Wall. But if you add Brown to the deal I am sure we could work something out.

There is no way we should give up multiple Picks for the carcass of John Wall.

We would think about
Randle
#38

For

Wall
Brown Jr.
#9 Overall.

For a start.

Wall is a negative asset. And he's probably the worst negative asset in the league.

You forget that we also get the #1 overall pick in his original proposal which would come from Minny for, presumably for Beal.

Shiiii, #1, #9 and Troy Brown Jr for taking on the carcass of Wall.

Take Wiseman #1 and fill out the rest of the roster with 8 and 9. We could make it work.

[NewYorkPride85]

Wizards fan here.

Question for Knicks fans—would you guys be open to a trade that nets the knicks John Wall and the #1 pick for #8, the Mavs pick, and filler contracts?

Just an idea that I was playing with.

HELL TO THE NO!!!!! Wall's contract is by far one of the worst in the league and you want us to give up multiple picks to get him? Nobody in their right mind would take him or his contract considering how team are cash strapped because of this pandemic. Lol, pass me whatever the hell you are smoking because it must be really good if you ever thought ANY team would take this. Especially in the weakest possible draft ever. I'll give you the #27 pick and Wall for the #1 this year and next year and you got a deal

You're forgetting the opportunity to take on the 15% trade kicker. That'll put him just below 50% of the total salary cap. How do you pass that up?

1- We are not in need of salary relief
2- Wall is not the player he once was and hasn’t played in almost 2 years
3- No way in hell are we giving up draft capital in a draft that is considered historically deep next year. (There’s 15 player that would be selected above any of the talent in this years draft)

So basically you want us to bail you out from that albatross of a contract on a player who had a sever injury which actually kills the only thing he is good at which is speed while giving up future draft capital and taking a pick in what is historically the worst draft in years.... yea ok. Move it along, nobody is going to buy what you are selling. You would have to give up that #1 pick just to unload him and even that would be bad business.

[3toheadmelo]

You can give us the #9 pick and it still wouldn't be enough to take Wall. But if you add Brown to the deal I am sure we could work something out.

There is no way we should give up multiple Picks for the carcass of John Wall.

We would think about
Randle
#38

For

Wall
Brown Jr.
#9 Overall.

For a start.

Wall is a negative asset. And he's probably the worst negative asset in the league.

You forget that we also get the #1 overall pick in his original proposal which would come from Minny for, presumably for Beal.

Shiiii, #1, #9 and Troy Brown Jr for taking on the carcass of Wall.

Take Wiseman #1 and fill out the rest of the roster with 8 and 9. We could make it work.

That’s a really good haul. Sign me up

[robillionaire]

I'm assuming in the proposal they are sending #9 and beal to minnesota for #1

Randle, junk filler

for

Wall
#1
wizards 2021 first round pick
maybe more.

[moocow007]

I'm assuming in the proposal they are sending #9 and beal to minnesota for #1

Randle, junk filler

for

Wall
#1
wizards 2021 first round pick
maybe more.

I'm assuming in the proposal they are sending #9 and beal to minnesota for #1

Randle, junk filler

for

Wall
#1
wizards 2021 first round pick
maybe more.

Needs to be more.

Wall may never play again so we could be looking at basically paying a 1st overall pick coming out a weak draft and who hasn't proved he can actually succeed in the NBA $155 million over the length of his rookie contract (Walls potentiallydeadweight contract plus the rookie contract for a 1st overall pick). That would be more than the MAX that player could make after his rookie contract is up assuming he fully lives up to expectations.

Honestly I don't see a scenario where the Wizards cam move Wall and not have to give up so much for the other team to take him that they may as well just ride out Walls contract. The damage that a rebuilding team like the Wizards will have to do to their rebuild plans (in terms of assets they'd have to include to move Wall) would be greater than just accepting that Walls contract will sit on the cap for the duration, continue to build through the draft and develop your own players and whatever you can get out of Wall for the next 3 years consider that a plus.

They should look to move Beal for a trove of assets to help their rebuild though as the presence of both Wall and Beals contract and where this team is at will likely mean the Wizards won't be in position to contend until Beals ready for the next contract at a point where his timeline won't fit the Wizards.

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[nyk2017]

I'm assuming in the proposal they are sending #9 and beal to minnesota for #1

Randle, junk filler

for

Wall
#1
wizards 2021 first round pick
maybe more.

I'm assuming in the proposal they are sending #9 and beal to minnesota for #1

Randle, junk filler

for

Wall
#1
wizards 2021 first round pick
maybe more.

Needs to be more.

Wall may never play again so we could be looking at basically paying a 1st overall pick coming out a weak draft and who hasn't proved he can actually succeed in the NBA $155 million over the length of his rookie contract (Walls potentiallydeadweight contract plus the rookie contract for a 1st overall pick). That would be more than the MAX that player could make after his rookie contract is up assuming he fully lives up to expectations.

Honestly I don't see a scenario where the Wizards cam move Wall and not have to give up so much for the other team to take him that they may as well just ride out Walls contract. The damage that a rebuilding team like the Wizards will have to do to their rebuild plans (in terms of assets they'd have to include to move Wall) would be greater than just accepting that Walls contract will sit on the cap for the duration, continue to build through the draft and develop your own players and whatever you can get out of Wall for the next 3 years consider that a plus.

They should look to move Beal for a trove of assets to help their rebuild though as the presence of both Wall and Beals contract and where this team is at will likely mean the Wizards won't be in position to contend until Beals ready for the next contract at a point where his timeline won't fit the Wizards.

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None of this makes any sense. Wizards are not trading Wall along with young players and multiple #1's. They would be in rebuilding mode for more than a decade. They are better off keeping Wall, trading Beal and rebuild. That way in 3-4 years, when they are ready to compete, Wall's contract would have expired.

[TGW]

[Wall may never play again

Um, Wall is playing basketball now. As a matter of fact, he's been healthy since March. The Wizards have held him out for insurance purposes (they got paid out on Wall's salary this year), but he's fine.

I know you hated the original idea, but don't go overboard.

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[moocow007]

I'm assuming in the proposal they are sending #9 and beal to minnesota for #1

Randle, junk filler

for

Wall
#1
wizards 2021 first round pick
maybe more.

I'm assuming in the proposal they are sending #9 and beal to minnesota for #1

Randle, junk filler

for

Wall
#1
wizards 2021 first round pick
maybe more.

Needs to be more.

Wall may never play again so we could be looking at basically paying a 1st overall pick coming out a weak draft and who hasn't proved he can actually succeed in the NBA $155 million over the length of his rookie contract (Walls potentiallydeadweight contract plus the rookie contract for a 1st overall pick). That would be more than the MAX that player could make after his rookie contract is up assuming he fully lives up to expectations.

Honestly I don't see a scenario where the Wizards cam move Wall and not have to give up so much for the other team to take him that they may as well just ride out Walls contract. The damage that a rebuilding team like the Wizards will have to do to their rebuild plans (in terms of assets they'd have to include to move Wall) would be greater than just accepting that Walls contract will sit on the cap for the duration, continue to build through the draft and develop your own players and whatever you can get out of Wall for the next 3 years consider that a plus.

They should look to move Beal for a trove of assets to help their rebuild though as the presence of both Wall and Beals contract and where this team is at will likely mean the Wizards won't be in position to contend until Beals ready for the next contract at a point where his timeline won't fit the Wizards.

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None of this makes any sense. Wizards are not trading Wall along with young players and multiple #1's. They would be in rebuilding mode for more than a decade. They are better off keeping Wall, trading Beal and rebuild. That way in 3-4 years, when they are ready to compete, Wall's contract would have expired.

So you agree with what I said? You quoted me and said "none of this makes any sense" then basically agreed with me on the highlighted parts.

[newyorker4ever]

Dipo
Lauri

Two guys that should fit in with RJ & Mitch & are coming off terrible seasons

I've been on the Lauri train for a couple of months now and really hope we call the Bulls about him. They pretty much revamped the front office and coaches so maybe they'll trade him to get their own guys in there and he was actually saying he wanted out at some point during the season.

If we knew we were getting a healthy Dipo and his injury is 100% healed and he feels it won't take away from his game in any way then i'm fine with Dipo, but that's a lot of if's that there's no way to have the answers for. He would have to come for the right price though cause i can't be maxing a guy that we don't know what he's gonna be until we actually see it.