2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2

[Red_Claw]

Powell and Hernandez
For
Ariza + #16

Portland gets an upgrade with Powell over an aging Ariza. Ariza's contract is worth 12.8 M but only 1.8 M guaranteed.

[JRoy]

Powell and Hernandez
For
Ariza + #16

Portland gets an upgrade with Powell over an aging Ariza. Ariza's contract is worth 12.8 M but only 1.8 M guaranteed.

Pretty sure Arizas full contract becomes guaranteed if traded.

Also POR is not sending out their best (I know, right?) sf and a pick for pair of backups.

[Red_Claw]

Powell and Hernandez
For
Ariza + #16

Portland gets an upgrade with Powell over an aging Ariza. Ariza's contract is worth 12.8 M but only 1.8 M guaranteed.

Pretty sure Arizas full contract becomes guaranteed if traded.

Also POR is not sending out their best (I know, right?) sf and a pick for pair of backups.

Probably would need to send them the 29th pick but thats only if you don't apply the Masai factor.

Dam/Simmons
CJ/Powell/Trent Jr
Hood/Little/Hezonja
Melo/(#29 - Paul Reed)
Nurkic/Collins

Thats 8 - 10 deep there without adding an MLE player (Marcus Morris). Solid, deep team who already gave the Lakers a run for their money.

[JRoy]

Powell and Hernandez
For
Ariza + #16

Portland gets an upgrade with Powell over an aging Ariza. Ariza's contract is worth 12.8 M but only 1.8 M guaranteed.

Pretty sure Arizas full contract becomes guaranteed if traded.

Also POR is not sending out their best (I know, right?) sf and a pick for pair of backups.

Probably would need to send them the 29th pick but thats only if you don't apply the Masai factor.

Dam/Simmons
CJ/Powell/Trent Jr
Hood/Little/Hezonja
Melo/(#29 - Paul Reed)
Nurkic/Collins

Thats 8 - 10 deep there without adding an MLE player (Marcus Morris). Solid, deep team who already gave the Lakers a run for their money.

Not happening.

Does not address needs at sf and Powell (and Trent) will be looking to get paid.

[Red_Claw]

Pretty sure Arizas full contract becomes guaranteed if traded.

Also POR is not sending out their best (I know, right?) sf and a pick for pair of backups.

Probably would need to send them the 29th pick but thats only if you don't apply the Masai factor.

Dam/Simmons
CJ/Powell/Trent Jr
Hood/Little/Hezonja
Melo/(#29 - Paul Reed)
Nurkic/Collins

Thats 8 - 10 deep there without adding an MLE player (Marcus Morris). Solid, deep team who already gave the Lakers a run for their money.

Not happening.

Does not address needs at sf and Powell (and Trent) will be looking to get paid.

Little is their OG
Norm played nearly equal parts SF as SG
an MLE player can also fill in the SF

All those arguments beat the argument of keeping a 35 year old Trevor Ariza at 12M. The trade ultimately makes Portland better for the price of moving down in the draft.

[JRoy]

Probably would need to send them the 29th pick but thats only if you don't apply the Masai factor.

Dam/Simmons
CJ/Powell/Trent Jr
Hood/Little/Hezonja
Melo/(#29 - Paul Reed)
Nurkic/Collins

Thats 8 - 10 deep there without adding an MLE player (Marcus Morris). Solid, deep team who already gave the Lakers a run for their money.

Not happening.

Does not address needs at sf and Powell (and Trent) will be looking to get paid.

Little is their OG
Norm played nearly equal parts SF as SG
an MLE player can also fill in the SF

All those arguments beat the argument of keeping a 35 year old Trevor Ariza at 12M. The trade ultimately makes Portland better for the price of moving down in the draft.

POR is already small in the backcourt.

Adding a 6’3” sf is an absolute non starter.

Powell and GTJr will get likely get paid north of $15 million each. You think paying $30 million a year for a pair of backup sgs is a good idea?

I hope Little develops into a quality player. He’s a pretty solid athlete And his shot went from atrocious to merely bad by the end of the year.
He has no handles and is not a threat off the dribble. To me he looks pretty marginal but I hope I’m wrong.
Any move in this direction would require CJ going out for a quality starting sf, and those are in short supply.

[douggood]

there has been lot of speculation in the media that Suns are gonna be interested in FVV, for that to happen they will need to renounce, baynes, saric, not use MLE among other small moves they cannot make.

with mikal bridges thier starting SF going forward, i think they could be open to moving kelly oubre

oubre makes 14.38$ next season, FVV matching 125% is $17.97, so a 4 year $80.5

oubre is a free agent next year, so if no giannis can resign him, keeps our options open.

[bballsparkin]

^^I'd be on board with that. Oubre has made strides and expires at the right time. Plus I think FVV would be a great fit on the Suns.


It seems fans of other teams don't value Norm like we do. It's funny too. Raps fans want to trade Norm because of concerns he will not opt out and interfere with signing Giannis or whoever. Yet fans of other teams see him as a rental and do not want to offer much as a result.

[tecumseh18]

there has been lot of speculation in the media that Suns are gonna be interested in FVV, for that to happen they will need to renounce, baynes, saric, not use MLE among other small moves they cannot make.

with mikal bridges thier starting SF going forward, i think they could be open to moving kelly oubre

oubre makes 14.38$ next season, FVV matching 125% is $17.97, so a 4 year $80.5

oubre is a free agent next year, so if no giannis can resign him, keeps our options open.

There is no way Masai is letting go of Fred if the cost is only $18 mill in the first year. One year of Oubre cannot possibly match Fred's contribution over the next four years as Lowry declines.

[LoveMyRaps]

Posted this in another thread:

Serge to Brooklyn sounds interesting. They have a plethora of draft picks in next years draft which is considered one of the strongest in recent memory. 4 second round picks [including ours] and a first round pick.
I'm sure Ibaka would welcome the idea of reuniting with his close friend KD and making a serious run at the title.
If we can S&T Ibaka for Prince or Dinwiddie combined with a couple of those second rounders like the Suns and Hawks, then you do it.
Nets need a big. Ibaka would be a perfect fit.

Kyrie
Harris
LeVert
KD
Ibaka

We'd get two early second rounders for a very strong draft which would allow us combine it with our first rounder to move up or buy another first rounder.

[DreamTeam09]

Posted this in another thread:

Serge to Brooklyn sounds interesting. They have a plethora of draft picks in next years draft which is considered one of the strongest in recent memory. 4 second round picks [including ours] and a first round pick.
I'm sure Ibaka would welcome the idea of reuniting with his close friend KD and making a serious run at the title.
If we can S&T Ibaka for Prince or Dinwiddie combined with a couple of those second rounders like the Suns and Hawks, then you do it.
Nets need a big. Ibaka would be a perfect fit.

Kyrie
Harris
LeVert
KD
Ibaka

We'd get two early second rounders for a very strong draft which would allow us combine it with our first rounder to move up or buy another first rounder.

Why do the nets need a big when J.Allen / Daj / KD taking up a bulk of the big man minuets if not all

[LoveMyRaps]

Posted this in another thread:

Serge to Brooklyn sounds interesting. They have a plethora of draft picks in next years draft which is considered one of the strongest in recent memory. 4 second round picks [including ours] and a first round pick.
I'm sure Ibaka would welcome the idea of reuniting with his close friend KD and making a serious run at the title.
If we can S&T Ibaka for Prince or Dinwiddie combined with a couple of those second rounders like the Suns and Hawks, then you do it.
Nets need a big. Ibaka would be a perfect fit.

Kyrie
Harris
LeVert
KD
Ibaka

We'd get two early second rounders for a very strong draft which would allow us combine it with our first rounder to move up or buy another first rounder.

Why do the nets need a big when J.Allen / Daj / KD taking up a bulk of the big man minuets if not all

Ibaka is a MASSIVE upgrade Allen and DJ, neither of whom can space the floor. Durant's primary position is also SF so even though he can play minutes at the 4, having a big like Ibaka allows Durant to play more at the 3 and punish opposing wings.
Nets literally have no front court depth, I don't see why they wouldn't need a big. Even if you wanna play Durant at the 4, who's the back-up?
A front court of KD and Allen would get absolutely bodied. DJ doesn't solve your defensive problems either.

[Raptors_128]

Posted this in another thread:

Serge to Brooklyn sounds interesting. They have a plethora of draft picks in next years draft which is considered one of the strongest in recent memory. 4 second round picks [including ours] and a first round pick.
I'm sure Ibaka would welcome the idea of reuniting with his close friend KD and making a serious run at the title.
If we can S&T Ibaka for Prince or Dinwiddie combined with a couple of those second rounders like the Suns and Hawks, then you do it.
Nets need a big. Ibaka would be a perfect fit.

Kyrie
Harris
LeVert
KD
Ibaka

We'd get two early second rounders for a very strong draft which would allow us combine it with our first rounder to move up or buy another first rounder.

Why do the nets need a big when J.Allen / Daj / KD taking up a bulk of the big man minuets if not all

Ibaka is a MASSIVE upgrade Allen and DJ, neither of whom can space the floor. Durant's primary position is also SF so even though he can play minutes at the 4, having a big like Ibaka allows Durant to play more at the 3 and punish opposing wings.
Nets literally have no front court depth, I don't see why they wouldn't need a big. Even if you wanna play Durant at the 4, who's the back-up?
A front court of KD and Allen would get absolutely bodied. DJ doesn't solve your defensive problems either.

There were some rumours that KD wanted to play with Ibaka so I can see a deal happening.

Dinwiddie would be okay but, I don’t want Prince and his contract. I want Allen or Levert back and would add whatever else to Ibaka to get it done.

[LoveMyRaps]

Why do the nets need a big when J.Allen / Daj / KD taking up a bulk of the big man minuets if not all

Ibaka is a MASSIVE upgrade Allen and DJ, neither of whom can space the floor. Durant's primary position is also SF so even though he can play minutes at the 4, having a big like Ibaka allows Durant to play more at the 3 and punish opposing wings.
Nets literally have no front court depth, I don't see why they wouldn't need a big. Even if you wanna play Durant at the 4, who's the back-up?
A front court of KD and Allen would get absolutely bodied. DJ doesn't solve your defensive problems either.

There were some rumours that KD wanted to play with Ibaka so I can see a deal happening.

Dinwiddie would be okay but, I don’t want Prince and his contract. I want Allen or Levert back and would add whatever else to Ibaka to get it done.

Unfortunately we can't add to Ibaka. He'd have to be the lone player in a sign and trade. Of course LeVert + two 2021 second round picks for Ibaka would be ideal. But could Masai pull it off? Idk.

[OAKLEY_2]

Ibaka is a MASSIVE upgrade Allen and DJ, neither of whom can space the floor. Durant's primary position is also SF so even though he can play minutes at the 4, having a big like Ibaka allows Durant to play more at the 3 and punish opposing wings.
Nets literally have no front court depth, I don't see why they wouldn't need a big. Even if you wanna play Durant at the 4, who's the back-up?
A front court of KD and Allen would get absolutely bodied. DJ doesn't solve your defensive problems either.

There were some rumours that KD wanted to play with Ibaka so I can see a deal happening.

Dinwiddie would be okay but, I don’t want Prince and his contract. I want Allen or Levert back and would add whatever else to Ibaka to get it done.

Unfortunately we can't add to Ibaka. He'd have to be the lone player in a sign and trade. Of course LeVert + two 2021 second round picks for Ibaka would be ideal. But could Masai pull it off? Idk.

No Masai could not pull it off. Just remember when Lebron poached Bosh Miami offered Beasley and a second rounder. BC preferred the TPE which they only used part of and refused to take on Beasley. Why? They stared rebuild in the face. Other teams have had better luck exchanging players but only one player goes out - the unrestricted free agent. Masai is going to just take the cap space and shop especially when contract price wise it will be a buyer's market. Serge could be back if Knicks or Pistons or Suns go nuts on Fred. Do not think they will be want to keep both Fred and Serge. Seems very much one or the other proposition. If Fred moves on with a deal like Tyler Johnson got which was a projection of a player's value vs. based in reality, then Masai has to keep Serge and will keep him.

Dinwiddie has opt in and opt out implications for 2021/22 so that could be cap space or not... Good player but they won't go near that if they have Fred.

[gerrit4]

There were some rumours that KD wanted to play with Ibaka so I can see a deal happening.

Dinwiddie would be okay but, I don’t want Prince and his contract. I want Allen or Levert back and would add whatever else to Ibaka to get it done.

Unfortunately we can't add to Ibaka. He'd have to be the lone player in a sign and trade. Of course LeVert + two 2021 second round picks for Ibaka would be ideal. But could Masai pull it off? Idk.

No Masai could not pull it off. [bJ]ust remember when Lebron poached Bosh Miami offered Beasley and a second rounder. BC preferred the TPE which they only used part of and refused to take on Beasley.[/b] Why? They stared rebuild in the face. Other teams have had better luck exchanging players but only one player goes out - the unrestricted free agent. Masai is going to just take the cap space and shop especially when contract price wise it will be a buyer's market. Serge could be back if Knicks or Pistons or Suns go nuts on Fred. Do not think they will be want to keep both Fred and Serge. Seems very much one or the other proposition. If Fred moves on with a deal like Tyler Johnson got which was a projection of a player's value vs. based in reality, then Masai has to keep Serge and will keep him.

Dinwiddie has opt in and opt out implications for 2021/22 so that could be cap space or not... Good player but they won't go near that if they have Fred.

For what it's worth, we did get two first round picks in the deal - one of which that actually had some value because it was our pick that we had traded for Marion.

[Raptors_128]

Ibaka is a MASSIVE upgrade Allen and DJ, neither of whom can space the floor. Durant's primary position is also SF so even though he can play minutes at the 4, having a big like Ibaka allows Durant to play more at the 3 and punish opposing wings.
Nets literally have no front court depth, I don't see why they wouldn't need a big. Even if you wanna play Durant at the 4, who's the back-up?
A front court of KD and Allen would get absolutely bodied. DJ doesn't solve your defensive problems either.

There were some rumours that KD wanted to play with Ibaka so I can see a deal happening.

Dinwiddie would be okay but, I don’t want Prince and his contract. I want Allen or Levert back and would add whatever else to Ibaka to get it done.

Unfortunately we can't add to Ibaka. He'd have to be the lone player in a sign and trade. Of course LeVert + two 2021 second round picks for Ibaka would be ideal. But could Masai pull it off? Idk.

Maybe it could be 2 separate trades like Ibaka for Levert and Temple + Musa for Norm + 1st?

I feel like Norm fits better with the Nets than Levert. Levert needs the ball in his hands and he’s not going to get his touches with KD and Kyrie.

[pr0gr4m]

What about Powell and 29 for Gibson and 8 from the Knicks. It would put the Raptors in range for Terry and let FVV be expendable/walk. Gibson would be a decent stopgap option until next year.

Gibson/Boucher
Siakam
OG
Davis/Thomas
Lowry/Payton/Terry

[isyed]

Levert is my dream off-season pickup. Yes it puts the giannis dream in jeopardy cap wise but levert fits perfectly with Siakam, Fred and og as the young stud to round off the team for the future. Fvv can play off ball with levert handling the ball and takes a tonne of pressure off siakam. His defense is pretty good as well.

Levert has exactly the skill set we need to take us over the hump. If the nets listen to durant and trade for Ibaka for levert we are winning.

There were some rumours that KD wanted to play with Ibaka so I can see a deal happening.

Dinwiddie would be okay but, I don’t want Prince and his contract. I want Allen or Levert back and would add whatever else to Ibaka to get it done.

Unfortunately we can't add to Ibaka. He'd have to be the lone player in a sign and trade. Of course LeVert + two 2021 second round picks for Ibaka would be ideal. But could Masai pull it off? Idk.

Maybe it could be 2 separate trades like Ibaka for Levert and Temple + Musa for Norm + 1st?

I feel like Norm fits better with the Nets than Levert. Levert needs the ball in his hands and he’s not going to get his touches with KD and Kyrie.

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[Red_Claw]

What about Powell and 29 for Gibson and 8 from the Knicks. It would put the Raptors in range for Terry and let FVV be expendable/walk. Gibson would be a decent stopgap option until next year.

Gibson/Boucher
Siakam
OG
Davis/Thomas
Lowry/Payton/Terry

a few things....

Powell and 29 will move you up 10 - 15 spots in the draft at MOST.
I haven't seen one mock draft that has Terry going top 10
And If 35 yr old Gibson is a starting center on any team, they mine as well sell everything and rebuild.