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minimus wrote:shangrila wrote:_AIJ_ wrote:When does trades officially start? After the finals or they have e a specific date?
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I think they're still figuring out next season's financials. That was apparently the reason the draft was delayed, so everyone knew what the money was and they could plan their trades accordingly.
I wonder if low Finals ratings will affect numbers.
_AIJ_ wrote:When does trades officially start? After the finals or do they have a specific date?
Sign5 wrote:Yea not happening, I expected a better retort but what do I expect from realgm(ers) in 2025. Just quote and state things that lack context, then repeat the same thing over and over as if something new and profound was said. Just lol.
shrink wrote:_AIJ_ wrote:When does trades officially start? After the finals or do they have a specific date?
Officially, trading re-opens the moment your team is eliminated from the playoffs. The February trade deadline is in place to keep teams from altering the playoffs by making a last minute addition. Teams are allowed to trade any player that has guaranteed money next year. Minnesota could make a trade today, even James Johnson is he picked up his player option. Unofficially, teams seem to wait until the playoffs are over, to avoid distracting fans from a highly viewed and profitable playoffs.
Trading also closes during the moratorium, which used to be a week long chance for NBA bean counters to calculate the revenues from last season, and set a number for next season’s salary cap, lux, MLE, etc. Recently there has been talking of shrinking this week down to a day or two, as modern methods pretty much allow the accountants to have a very accurate guess far earlier.
I will mention that there are several unofficial starts to the trade season. Draft night. The first couple weeks of free agency. The last few days before the deadline. But we occasionally see trades come in between. David Kahn’s first move was a trade a few weeks before the draft of Randy Foye and Mike Miller for the #5 and an expiring. Too bad it was all downhill from there for that guy!
shrink wrote:_AIJ_ wrote:When does trades officially start? After the finals or do they have a specific date?
Officially, trading re-opens the moment your team is eliminated from the playoffs. The February trade deadline is in place to keep teams from altering the playoffs by making a last minute addition. Teams are allowed to trade any player that has guaranteed money next year. Minnesota could make a trade today, even James Johnson is he picked up his player option. Unofficially, teams seem to wait until the playoffs are over, to avoid distracting fans from a highly viewed and profitable playoffs.
Trading also closes during the moratorium, which used to be a week long chance for NBA bean counters to calculate the revenues from last season, and set a number for next season’s salary cap, lux, MLE, etc. Recently there has been talking of shrinking this week down to a day or two, as modern methods pretty much allow the accountants to have a very accurate guess far earlier.
I will mention that there are several unofficial starts to the trade season. Draft night. The first couple weeks of free agency. The last few days before the deadline. But we occasionally see trades come in between. David Kahn’s first move was a trade a few weeks before the draft of Randy Foye and Mike Miller for the #5 and an expiring. Too bad it was all downhill from there for that guy!
shrink wrote:I will mention that there are several unofficial starts to the trade season. Draft night. The first couple weeks of free agency. The last few days before the deadline. But we occasionally see trades come in between. David Kahn’s first move was a trade a few weeks before the draft of Randy Foye and Mike Miller for the #5 and an expiring. Too bad it was all downhill from there for that guy!
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Klomp wrote:shrink wrote:I will mention that there are several unofficial starts to the trade season. Draft night. The first couple weeks of free agency. The last few days before the deadline. But we occasionally see trades come in between. David Kahn’s first move was a trade a few weeks before the draft of Randy Foye and Mike Miller for the #5 and an expiring. Too bad it was all downhill from there for that guy!
That trade was actually done the day before the draft.
Sign5 wrote:Yea not happening, I expected a better retort but what do I expect from realgm(ers) in 2025. Just quote and state things that lack context, then repeat the same thing over and over as if something new and profound was said. Just lol.
_AIJ_ wrote:shrink wrote:_AIJ_ wrote:When does trades officially start? After the finals or do they have a specific date?
Officially, trading re-opens the moment your team is eliminated from the playoffs. The February trade deadline is in place to keep teams from altering the playoffs by making a last minute addition. Teams are allowed to trade any player that has guaranteed money next year. Minnesota could make a trade today, even James Johnson is he picked up his player option. Unofficially, teams seem to wait until the playoffs are over, to avoid distracting fans from a highly viewed and profitable playoffs.
Trading also closes during the moratorium, which used to be a week long chance for NBA bean counters to calculate the revenues from last season, and set a number for next season’s salary cap, lux, MLE, etc. Recently there has been talking of shrinking this week down to a day or two, as modern methods pretty much allow the accountants to have a very accurate guess far earlier.
I will mention that there are several unofficial starts to the trade season. Draft night. The first couple weeks of free agency. The last few days before the deadline. But we occasionally see trades come in between. David Kahn’s first move was a trade a few weeks before the draft of Randy Foye and Mike Miller for the #5 and an expiring. Too bad it was all downhill from there for that guy!
Thanks, shrink. So “officially” it will start if the Lakers will win tonight.
Sign5 wrote:Yea not happening, I expected a better retort but what do I expect from realgm(ers) in 2025. Just quote and state things that lack context, then repeat the same thing over and over as if something new and profound was said. Just lol.
minimus wrote:shangrila wrote:_AIJ_ wrote:When does trades officially start? After the finals or they have e a specific date?
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I think they're still figuring out next season's financials. That was apparently the reason the draft was delayed, so everyone knew what the money was and they could plan their trades accordingly.
I wonder if low Finals ratings will affect numbers.
Wolveswin wrote:Knicks Give: #8 + Randle + Barrett + 2021 Dallas 1st
Knicks Get: #1 + LaVine + Johnson
Thibs trades with both of his old teams using a guy he didn’t draft and a #8 he doesn’t want, to get a hard worker he knows, Ball he covets, and sets himself up for next offseason.
Bulls Give: #4 + LaVine
Bulls Get: #17 + Barrett + Spellman
Barrett and young become backcourt of future for Bulls.
Magic Give: A. Gordon
Magic Get: #8 + Randle
Wolves Give: #1 + #17 + Johnson + Spellman
Wolves Get: #4 + A. Gordon + 2021 Dallas 1st
If you think #17 + Johnson will get Gordon, not the trade scenario for you. I think it takes a little more than that.
Towns
A. Gordon
Culver | #4
Beasley | Okogie
Russell
Jingles2 wrote:I'm thinking Minnesota wouldn't mind moving the number one for a player or package of players that could help them sooner. How much would Orlando value the first pick and Okeke though? Would something like this even be considered by Orlando or is this an overpay?
Orlando out/Minnesota in: Gordon, Iwundo, rights to Chuma Okeke, and the 15th pick
Orlando in/Minnesota out: number 1 pick, James Johnson, Jared Vanderbilt, and Jake Layman
Jingles2 wrote:I'm thinking Minnesota wouldn't mind moving the number one for a player or package of players that could help them sooner. How much would Orlando value the first pick and Okeke though? Would something like this even be considered by Orlando or is this an overpay?
Orlando out/Minnesota in: Gordon, Iwundo, rights to Chuma Okeke, and the 15th pick
Orlando in/Minnesota out: number 1 pick, James Johnson, Jared Vanderbilt, and Jake Layman
Jingles2 wrote:I'm thinking Minnesota wouldn't mind moving the number one for a player or package of players that could help them sooner. How much would Orlando value the first pick and Okeke though? Would something like this even be considered by Orlando or is this an overpay?
Orlando out/Minnesota in: Gordon, Iwundo, rights to Chuma Okeke, and the 15th pick
Orlando in/Minnesota out: number 1 pick, James Johnson, Jared Vanderbilt, and Jake Layman
Sign5 wrote:Yea not happening, I expected a better retort but what do I expect from realgm(ers) in 2025. Just quote and state things that lack context, then repeat the same thing over and over as if something new and profound was said. Just lol.
Jingles2 wrote:I'm thinking Minnesota wouldn't mind moving the number one for a player or package of players that could help them sooner. How much would Orlando value the first pick and Okeke though? Would something like this even be considered by Orlando or is this an overpay?
Orlando out/Minnesota in: Gordon, Iwundo, rights to Chuma Okeke, and the 15th pick
Orlando in/Minnesota out: number 1 pick, James Johnson, Jared Vanderbilt, and Jake Layman
Neeva wrote:Grant will become very overpaid soon. Crowder is kind of overrated, not good defensively and needs to be next to someone like Adebayo. Crowder and kat is not a good fit IMO.
Mattya wrote:Trade 1:
Culver, #17, Johnson for Oladipo
Trade 2:
#1, Layman, Spellman, Evans to Knicks for #8, 2021 top 5 protected, 2021 Dallas pick.
Goals: First, depending on what happens with the cap and the timing of any Beasley and Juancho offers I think this clears enough money to go after Joe Harris. Second, since we don’t seem to have enough assets and no stars are currently on the market this would give us future draft capital for trades that become available later.
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