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Official 2020 NBA Draft Thread

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What kind of player do you think we need most?

Point Guard
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Scoring Guard
38
62%
Great Shooter
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3&D Wing
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Post#1601 » by yoyojw17 » Mon Oct 5, 2020 1:06 am

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Yeah, I get it. He plays good defense, finishes in transition, and can occasionally knock down some standing shots. He doesn’t really create offense for himself or others. How is this dude different than AG or Chuma?


To be clear ... my original comment was that I understand why FANS would be less than impressed but I am surprised we aren’t penciling him in as a logical WEHAM pick.

He fits their agenda.


I agree. He does seem like a definite WeHam pick.

I’m hoping they stray away from the agenda this time and draft someone with an actual skill for once. Green might be great, but who knows how much his offensive game needs to be polished. Seems like a more guard-centric version of Okeke.

I said the same thing in my head... but there is something about that comparison that intrigues me. Winning players are what i want who will work hard to excel... especially since it looks so natural. And as i said... i think there is much more than 3 and D with him. But hey.... i could be wrong. But... i just get some feeling of what he could become. and 6'6" (6'10" wingspan) 210 lb at 19yo his defense will continue to grow... he can really develop. feels like i'm just watching devin booker college highlights with defense. lol
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Post#1602 » by Skin » Mon Oct 5, 2020 3:14 am

Josh Green is slow and robotic. I would not be a fan of this pick.
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Post#1603 » by j-ragg » Mon Oct 5, 2020 2:36 pm

Skin wrote:Josh Green is slow and robotic. I would not be a fan of this pick.

I agree he doesn’t seem like much of an athlete for an NBA wing. I could see him maybe being like Gary Trent jr, just not the kinda player I’d take but I can obviously see he’s WeltHam’s kind of prospect. Just missing a big injury.
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Re: Official 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#1604 » by The Effect » Mon Oct 5, 2020 5:22 pm

Skin wrote:Josh Green is slow and robotic. I would not be a fan of this pick.

Robotic i can kind of understand, but hes actually pretty athletic
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Post#1605 » by The Effect » Mon Oct 5, 2020 5:24 pm

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Skin wrote:Josh Green is slow and robotic. I would not be a fan of this pick.

I agree he doesn’t seem like much of an athlete for an NBA wing.

Based on what? Hes considered one the more athletic players in the draft?
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Post#1606 » by jezzerinho » Mon Oct 5, 2020 7:10 pm

Josh Green is a hard pass for me. Dont think he's translatable and his shooting touch is crap.
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Post#1607 » by The Effect » Mon Oct 5, 2020 9:30 pm

i just read Josh Greens scouting report on nbadraft.net and if this isnt the most WeHam prospect in history, i dont know what is.
You honestly could copy and past this exact report into the reports for any of WeHams 1st rounders dating back to their Mil days, and it would fit
NBA Comparison: Kelly Oubre

Strengths: Elite defender who leads Arizona in steals per game … Picturesque frame for a NBA shooting guard at 6’6, 210 pounds … Has the ability to take over the PG role when Nico Mannion is not in the game with good ball-handling and excellent vision … Above average facilitator and three-point shooter … Sees the floor well and knows where to be for an extra pass and knockdown shot … Smart player who will pass up a three for a better shot for himself as he attempts to develop a better three-point shot … Great rebounder and outlet passer … Freakish 6’10 wingspan for a guard which contributes to his 1.6 steals per game and ability to guard multiple positionsExtremely athletic player who can play 3 or 4 different positions … Versatile player who can become a knockdown three-point shooter, pass-first point guard, or playmaking slasher depending on the team’s needs … Great composure and confidence on and off the court … Improved his free throw percentage from 59% to 78% since Under Armour Association in 2018 … Very high potential with all of the traits to be an elite NBA player

Weaknesses: Needs to become a more consistent jump shooter with only a 32% three-point percentage … Does a lot of things really well but has not developed to a great/elite level at any of these tasks … Impulsive defender that gets himself into foul trouble too often … Room to improve as a ball handler, tends to get past defenders with speed and athleticism rather than creating space off the dribble … Doesn’t attack to the left often or well enough … Sometimes plays a little too unselfish when he could make a larger impact Can sometimes disappear into more of a role player rather than a star

Outlook: Considered a likely late lottery to mid first round pick … Looks to be an impactful role player early on in his career, which will give him good minutes … Won’t be a star right away but a year or two of development on a consistent jump shot will turn him from good to great … Pelicans would be a great fit to provide an immediate impact on defense with little to no pressure to put up a lot of points with the likes of Zion Williamson and Brandon Ingram leading the way


You literally couldnt make up a more Weham prospect
If hes there, id bet almost anything i had that hes our guy :lol:
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Post#1608 » by Ducklett » Mon Oct 5, 2020 10:12 pm

The Effect wrote:i just read Josh Greens scouting report on nbadraft.net and if this isnt the most WeHam prospect in history, i dont know what is.
You honestly could copy and past this exact report into the reports for any of WeHams 1st rounders dating back to their Mil days, and it would fit
NBA Comparison: Kelly Oubre

Strengths: Elite defender who leads Arizona in steals per game … Picturesque frame for a NBA shooting guard at 6’6, 210 pounds … Has the ability to take over the PG role when Nico Mannion is not in the game with good ball-handling and excellent vision … Above average facilitator and three-point shooter … Sees the floor well and knows where to be for an extra pass and knockdown shot … Smart player who will pass up a three for a better shot for himself as he attempts to develop a better three-point shot … Great rebounder and outlet passer … Freakish 6’10 wingspan for a guard which contributes to his 1.6 steals per game and ability to guard multiple positionsExtremely athletic player who can play 3 or 4 different positions … Versatile player who can become a knockdown three-point shooter, pass-first point guard, or playmaking slasher depending on the team’s needs … Great composure and confidence on and off the court … Improved his free throw percentage from 59% to 78% since Under Armour Association in 2018 … Very high potential with all of the traits to be an elite NBA player

Weaknesses: Needs to become a more consistent jump shooter with only a 32% three-point percentage … Does a lot of things really well but has not developed to a great/elite level at any of these tasks … Impulsive defender that gets himself into foul trouble too often … Room to improve as a ball handler, tends to get past defenders with speed and athleticism rather than creating space off the dribble … Doesn’t attack to the left often or well enough … Sometimes plays a little too unselfish when he could make a larger impact Can sometimes disappear into more of a role player rather than a star

Outlook: Considered a likely late lottery to mid first round pick … Looks to be an impactful role player early on in his career, which will give him good minutes … Won’t be a star right away but a year or two of development on a consistent jump shot will turn him from good to great … Pelicans would be a great fit to provide an immediate impact on defense with little to no pressure to put up a lot of points with the likes of Zion Williamson and Brandon Ingram leading the way


You literally couldnt make up a more Weham prospect
If hes there, id bet almost anything i had that hes our guy :lol:


Read what they said about Kawhi and Jamal Murray lol. These guys are paid to break down every little positive and negative about a player. Even in scouting you posted it said he was an above average 3 point shooter in positive and then needs to become a more consistent 3 point shooter in the negatives lol.

Strengths: A hybrid forward with terrific length … He has a high motor and plays the game with a lot of energy … Spends majority of the time on the perimeter, but occasionally shows the ability to play with his back to the basket … Uses an effective turnaround jumper inside when posting up … An agile athlete, his strides are extremely long and he covers a lot of space when running the floor … Shows improvement in majority of areas from freshman to sophomore seasons … His shooting has improved and he has become a respectable threat from the outside … Operating out of the triple threat, he combines a nice jab with a fairly quick and long first step to create separation … He has a strong preference going to his pull-up jumper, and once he gets into a rhythm he can string a number makes together (his length and high release make it a difficult shot to contest) … He is fairly comfortable handling the ball in the open court and is capable of pushing it out off the rebound when the situation calls for it … Even with the improvements to his offensive game, he still continues to contribute heavily in the rebounding department … His huge hangs, length, energy and great timing, allow him to snatch balls on both ends that are well outside of his rebounding area … An extremely quick jumper, he is very good at tipping the ball and keeping it alive on the rim … Has the instincts and shows potential in becoming a very solid defender … His ability to get out in the passing lanes and also contest shots inside make him a very dangerous weapon on the defensive end …

Weaknesses: Does not have one aspect offensively that stands out or which allows him to consistently score the ball … With his size and frame, will almost certainly be a perimeter player at the next level, but he lacks the polish and skill necessary to consistently operate on the wing … He does not have break down ability off the dribble and he is especially shaky handling the ball with his left hand … His jumpshot (while definitely improved) is still very inconsistent … The release comes high off his head and it is somewhat of a sling motion, which results in a fairly flat shot that goes all over the place … At this level, he has a size advantage on almost a nightly basis, but he still chooses to take the majority of his shots from the outside … Takes a high number of off balance shots, but does not show the ability to convert them at a good percentage … He does not have a great touch around the basket, and unless he can get inside position on the defense, he struggles finishing when contested … Not very disciplined defensively, he gambles far too often and leaves his team susceptible to giving up easy baskets …

Strengths: A very polished and clutch performer for his age … Murray is a combo guard, but in a good way, at 6’4″ and 207 lbs he possess the size to play both guard positions … Has shown the ability to play off the ball as a freshmen at Kentucky … Has three point range that must be respected by his defender … Takes open driving lanes when he sees them … Can really attack defenses when going downhill … Comfortable finishing in the lane and has a variety of shots to finish in the paint … Uses his athleticism to be a creative finisher around the rim … Thrives in the clutch. Not afraid of the big moments or the big stage … Plays with a calming presence at all times … Never seems rattled or off his game … NBA-level athlete that will pose a problem for opposing point guards in the league … A natural scorer (currently averaging better than 18 PPG) … Makes putting the ball in the basket look effortless … Moves well without the ball … Very good in catch and shoot situations … Possesses the ability to get hot from deep (shot 8/10 from three against Florida and 7/9 from three against Ohio State) … Shoots a lot, but has a true shooting percentage of 55.2% … Above average rebounder on the defensive glass for a combo guard (almost 6 RPG per 40 minutes)

Weaknesses: Hasn’t played with the ball as much as anticipated, and not playing much PG in college games isn’t developing his skill at the position … The doubts about his ability to play full time PG could cosh him a few draft positions … In limited situations looks timid with the ball when not attempting to score … The tools and effort are there for Murray to be an above average defender, but will often lose focus off the ball … Will gamble for steals and hurt the team defensively … Might be the role Calipari is asking him to play, but looks like he would be a score first point guard at this stage of his development … Not much of a playmaker for others (averaging only 2.3 assists per game) … Can become too dependent on his outside shot in games (3/12 against Tennessee, 1/10 against NJIT, 2/9 against Eastern Kentucky) … High volume shooter (averages 15 shots a game) … Too turnover prone, especially for an off guard, with 2.6 turnovers per game and a turnover rate of 13.6% … Doesn’t have outstanding length with only a 6’6.5″ wingspan … Can he blow by NBA level athletes consistently and keep defenders from crowding him …
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Post#1609 » by The Effect » Mon Oct 5, 2020 11:38 pm

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The Effect wrote:i just read Josh Greens scouting report on nbadraft.net and if this isnt the most WeHam prospect in history, i dont know what is.
You honestly could copy and past this exact report into the reports for any of WeHams 1st rounders dating back to their Mil days, and it would fit
NBA Comparison: Kelly Oubre

Strengths: Elite defender who leads Arizona in steals per game … Picturesque frame for a NBA shooting guard at 6’6, 210 pounds … Has the ability to take over the PG role when Nico Mannion is not in the game with good ball-handling and excellent vision … Above average facilitator and three-point shooter … Sees the floor well and knows where to be for an extra pass and knockdown shot … Smart player who will pass up a three for a better shot for himself as he attempts to develop a better three-point shot … Great rebounder and outlet passer … Freakish 6’10 wingspan for a guard which contributes to his 1.6 steals per game and ability to guard multiple positionsExtremely athletic player who can play 3 or 4 different positions … Versatile player who can become a knockdown three-point shooter, pass-first point guard, or playmaking slasher depending on the team’s needs … Great composure and confidence on and off the court … Improved his free throw percentage from 59% to 78% since Under Armour Association in 2018 … Very high potential with all of the traits to be an elite NBA player

Weaknesses: Needs to become a more consistent jump shooter with only a 32% three-point percentage … Does a lot of things really well but has not developed to a great/elite level at any of these tasks … Impulsive defender that gets himself into foul trouble too often … Room to improve as a ball handler, tends to get past defenders with speed and athleticism rather than creating space off the dribble … Doesn’t attack to the left often or well enough … Sometimes plays a little too unselfish when he could make a larger impact Can sometimes disappear into more of a role player rather than a star

Outlook: Considered a likely late lottery to mid first round pick … Looks to be an impactful role player early on in his career, which will give him good minutes … Won’t be a star right away but a year or two of development on a consistent jump shot will turn him from good to great … Pelicans would be a great fit to provide an immediate impact on defense with little to no pressure to put up a lot of points with the likes of Zion Williamson and Brandon Ingram leading the way


You literally couldnt make up a more Weham prospect
If hes there, id bet almost anything i had that hes our guy :lol:


Read what they said about Kawhi and Jamal Murray lol. These guys are paid to break down every little positive and negative about a player. Even in scouting you posted it said he was an above average 3 point shooter in positive and then needs to become a more consistent 3 point shooter in the negatives lol.

Strengths: A hybrid forward with terrific length … He has a high motor and plays the game with a lot of energy … Spends majority of the time on the perimeter, but occasionally shows the ability to play with his back to the basket … Uses an effective turnaround jumper inside when posting up … An agile athlete, his strides are extremely long and he covers a lot of space when running the floor … Shows improvement in majority of areas from freshman to sophomore seasons … His shooting has improved and he has become a respectable threat from the outside … Operating out of the triple threat, he combines a nice jab with a fairly quick and long first step to create separation … He has a strong preference going to his pull-up jumper, and once he gets into a rhythm he can string a number makes together (his length and high release make it a difficult shot to contest) … He is fairly comfortable handling the ball in the open court and is capable of pushing it out off the rebound when the situation calls for it … Even with the improvements to his offensive game, he still continues to contribute heavily in the rebounding department … His huge hangs, length, energy and great timing, allow him to snatch balls on both ends that are well outside of his rebounding area … An extremely quick jumper, he is very good at tipping the ball and keeping it alive on the rim … Has the instincts and shows potential in becoming a very solid defender … His ability to get out in the passing lanes and also contest shots inside make him a very dangerous weapon on the defensive end …

Weaknesses: Does not have one aspect offensively that stands out or which allows him to consistently score the ball … With his size and frame, will almost certainly be a perimeter player at the next level, but he lacks the polish and skill necessary to consistently operate on the wing … He does not have break down ability off the dribble and he is especially shaky handling the ball with his left hand … His jumpshot (while definitely improved) is still very inconsistent … The release comes high off his head and it is somewhat of a sling motion, which results in a fairly flat shot that goes all over the place … At this level, he has a size advantage on almost a nightly basis, but he still chooses to take the majority of his shots from the outside … Takes a high number of off balance shots, but does not show the ability to convert them at a good percentage … He does not have a great touch around the basket, and unless he can get inside position on the defense, he struggles finishing when contested … Not very disciplined defensively, he gambles far too often and leaves his team susceptible to giving up easy baskets …

Strengths: A very polished and clutch performer for his age … Murray is a combo guard, but in a good way, at 6’4″ and 207 lbs he possess the size to play both guard positions … Has shown the ability to play off the ball as a freshmen at Kentucky … Has three point range that must be respected by his defender … Takes open driving lanes when he sees them … Can really attack defenses when going downhill … Comfortable finishing in the lane and has a variety of shots to finish in the paint … Uses his athleticism to be a creative finisher around the rim … Thrives in the clutch. Not afraid of the big moments or the big stage … Plays with a calming presence at all times … Never seems rattled or off his game … NBA-level athlete that will pose a problem for opposing point guards in the league … A natural scorer (currently averaging better than 18 PPG) … Makes putting the ball in the basket look effortless … Moves well without the ball … Very good in catch and shoot situations … Possesses the ability to get hot from deep (shot 8/10 from three against Florida and 7/9 from three against Ohio State) … Shoots a lot, but has a true shooting percentage of 55.2% … Above average rebounder on the defensive glass for a combo guard (almost 6 RPG per 40 minutes)

Weaknesses: Hasn’t played with the ball as much as anticipated, and not playing much PG in college games isn’t developing his skill at the position … The doubts about his ability to play full time PG could cosh him a few draft positions … In limited situations looks timid with the ball when not attempting to score … The tools and effort are there for Murray to be an above average defender, but will often lose focus off the ball … Will gamble for steals and hurt the team defensively … Might be the role Calipari is asking him to play, but looks like he would be a score first point guard at this stage of his development … Not much of a playmaker for others (averaging only 2.3 assists per game) … Can become too dependent on his outside shot in games (3/12 against Tennessee, 1/10 against NJIT, 2/9 against Eastern Kentucky) … High volume shooter (averages 15 shots a game) … Too turnover prone, especially for an off guard, with 2.6 turnovers per game and a turnover rate of 13.6% … Doesn’t have outstanding length with only a 6’6.5″ wingspan … Can he blow by NBA level athletes consistently and keep defenders from crowding him …



yeah i know, this is the same site that said deshawn stevensons nba comparison was michael jordan...i get it they arent great (although they have been spot on before), but the point is, the profile for Green reads like a dream for weham. Literally hit every keyword
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Post#1610 » by Ducklett » Mon Oct 5, 2020 11:39 pm

The Effect wrote:
Ducklett wrote:
The Effect wrote:i just read Josh Greens scouting report on nbadraft.net and if this isnt the most WeHam prospect in history, i dont know what is.
You honestly could copy and past this exact report into the reports for any of WeHams 1st rounders dating back to their Mil days, and it would fit


You literally couldnt make up a more Weham prospect
If hes there, id bet almost anything i had that hes our guy :lol:


Read what they said about Kawhi and Jamal Murray lol. These guys are paid to break down every little positive and negative about a player. Even in scouting you posted it said he was an above average 3 point shooter in positive and then needs to become a more consistent 3 point shooter in the negatives lol.

Strengths: A hybrid forward with terrific length … He has a high motor and plays the game with a lot of energy … Spends majority of the time on the perimeter, but occasionally shows the ability to play with his back to the basket … Uses an effective turnaround jumper inside when posting up … An agile athlete, his strides are extremely long and he covers a lot of space when running the floor … Shows improvement in majority of areas from freshman to sophomore seasons … His shooting has improved and he has become a respectable threat from the outside … Operating out of the triple threat, he combines a nice jab with a fairly quick and long first step to create separation … He has a strong preference going to his pull-up jumper, and once he gets into a rhythm he can string a number makes together (his length and high release make it a difficult shot to contest) … He is fairly comfortable handling the ball in the open court and is capable of pushing it out off the rebound when the situation calls for it … Even with the improvements to his offensive game, he still continues to contribute heavily in the rebounding department … His huge hangs, length, energy and great timing, allow him to snatch balls on both ends that are well outside of his rebounding area … An extremely quick jumper, he is very good at tipping the ball and keeping it alive on the rim … Has the instincts and shows potential in becoming a very solid defender … His ability to get out in the passing lanes and also contest shots inside make him a very dangerous weapon on the defensive end …

Weaknesses: Does not have one aspect offensively that stands out or which allows him to consistently score the ball … With his size and frame, will almost certainly be a perimeter player at the next level, but he lacks the polish and skill necessary to consistently operate on the wing … He does not have break down ability off the dribble and he is especially shaky handling the ball with his left hand … His jumpshot (while definitely improved) is still very inconsistent … The release comes high off his head and it is somewhat of a sling motion, which results in a fairly flat shot that goes all over the place … At this level, he has a size advantage on almost a nightly basis, but he still chooses to take the majority of his shots from the outside … Takes a high number of off balance shots, but does not show the ability to convert them at a good percentage … He does not have a great touch around the basket, and unless he can get inside position on the defense, he struggles finishing when contested … Not very disciplined defensively, he gambles far too often and leaves his team susceptible to giving up easy baskets …

Strengths: A very polished and clutch performer for his age … Murray is a combo guard, but in a good way, at 6’4″ and 207 lbs he possess the size to play both guard positions … Has shown the ability to play off the ball as a freshmen at Kentucky … Has three point range that must be respected by his defender … Takes open driving lanes when he sees them … Can really attack defenses when going downhill … Comfortable finishing in the lane and has a variety of shots to finish in the paint … Uses his athleticism to be a creative finisher around the rim … Thrives in the clutch. Not afraid of the big moments or the big stage … Plays with a calming presence at all times … Never seems rattled or off his game … NBA-level athlete that will pose a problem for opposing point guards in the league … A natural scorer (currently averaging better than 18 PPG) … Makes putting the ball in the basket look effortless … Moves well without the ball … Very good in catch and shoot situations … Possesses the ability to get hot from deep (shot 8/10 from three against Florida and 7/9 from three against Ohio State) … Shoots a lot, but has a true shooting percentage of 55.2% … Above average rebounder on the defensive glass for a combo guard (almost 6 RPG per 40 minutes)

Weaknesses: Hasn’t played with the ball as much as anticipated, and not playing much PG in college games isn’t developing his skill at the position … The doubts about his ability to play full time PG could cosh him a few draft positions … In limited situations looks timid with the ball when not attempting to score … The tools and effort are there for Murray to be an above average defender, but will often lose focus off the ball … Will gamble for steals and hurt the team defensively … Might be the role Calipari is asking him to play, but looks like he would be a score first point guard at this stage of his development … Not much of a playmaker for others (averaging only 2.3 assists per game) … Can become too dependent on his outside shot in games (3/12 against Tennessee, 1/10 against NJIT, 2/9 against Eastern Kentucky) … High volume shooter (averages 15 shots a game) … Too turnover prone, especially for an off guard, with 2.6 turnovers per game and a turnover rate of 13.6% … Doesn’t have outstanding length with only a 6’6.5″ wingspan … Can he blow by NBA level athletes consistently and keep defenders from crowding him …



yeah i know, this is the same site that said deshawn stevensons nba comparison was michael jordan...i get it they arent great (although they have been spot on before), but the point is, the profile for Green reads like a dream for weham. Literally hit every keyword


I agree with you actually. I wouldn't pick him, but I can understand why people think he is a late lotto pick.
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Post#1611 » by Jingles2 » Sat Oct 10, 2020 1:00 am

I'm thinking Minnesota wouldn't mind moving the number one for a player or package of players that could help them sooner. How much would Orlando value the first pick though? Would something like this even be considered by Orlando or is this an overpay?

Orlando out: Gordon, Iwundo, rights to Chuma Okeke, and the 15th pick

Orlando in: number 1 pick, James Johnson, Jared Vanderbilt, and Jake Layman
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Post#1612 » by KillMonger » Sat Oct 10, 2020 1:13 am

If we stand pat at where we are there are so many different ways you can go with the players that are supposed to be on the board around our pick.....unless someone falls is there a wrong answer at 15 with the group of prospects slated around that range? the talent level is so similar from pick 12-20...
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Post#1613 » by VFX » Sat Oct 10, 2020 2:33 am

Jingles2 wrote:I'm thinking Minnesota wouldn't mind moving the number one for a player or package of players that could help them sooner. How much would Orlando value the first pick though? Would something like this even be considered by Orlando or is this an overpay?

Orlando out: Gordon, Iwundo, rights to Chuma Okeke, and the 15th pick

Orlando in: number 1 pick, James Johnson, Jared Vanderbilt, and Jake Layman


That’s an overpay on Orlando’s side. This draft isn’t good and everyone at the top could easily be a bust. We aren’t dying for cap space because we will never sign anyone substantial.
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Post#1614 » by Def Swami » Sat Oct 10, 2020 1:53 pm

Jingles2 wrote:I'm thinking Minnesota wouldn't mind moving the number one for a player or package of players that could help them sooner. How much would Orlando value the first pick though? Would something like this even be considered by Orlando or is this an overpay?

Orlando out: Gordon, Iwundo, rights to Chuma Okeke, and the 15th pick

Orlando in: number 1 pick, James Johnson, Jared Vanderbilt, and Jake Layman

It's tough to give up both Okeke and the 15th pick. Maybe take one out and there might be a deal.
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Post#1615 » by Jingles2 » Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:27 pm

Def Swami wrote:
Jingles2 wrote:I'm thinking Minnesota wouldn't mind moving the number one for a player or package of players that could help them sooner. How much would Orlando value the first pick though? Would something like this even be considered by Orlando or is this an overpay?

Orlando out: Gordon, Iwundo, rights to Chuma Okeke, and the 15th pick

Orlando in: number 1 pick, James Johnson, Jared Vanderbilt, and Jake Layman

It's tough to give up both Okeke and the 15th pick. Maybe take one out and there might be a deal.



Unsurprisingly Minnesota fans say they're not getting enough in that deal and Orlando fans say they're giving up too much.
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Post#1616 » by j-ragg » Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:39 pm

Jingles2 wrote:
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Jingles2 wrote:I'm thinking Minnesota wouldn't mind moving the number one for a player or package of players that could help them sooner. How much would Orlando value the first pick though? Would something like this even be considered by Orlando or is this an overpay?

Orlando out: Gordon, Iwundo, rights to Chuma Okeke, and the 15th pick

Orlando in: number 1 pick, James Johnson, Jared Vanderbilt, and Jake Layman

It's tough to give up both Okeke and the 15th pick. Maybe take one out and there might be a deal.



Unsurprisingly Minnesota fans say they're not getting enough in that deal and Orlando fans say they're giving up too much.

It's definitely a tough sell for Minnesota. They have the 1st pick in a time where the odds are stacked against that happening and we are proposing they trade it for a package centered around AG, Okeke and a mid first round pick. That might be the worst package for a top 3 pick ever, let alone #1. And I love AG as most know.

These have been fun talking exercises for GSW since they're in a weird spot with their timeline but I'm still skeptical either team would pick up the phone and listen to that offer. Sadly it's the most enticing offer Orlando probably realistically has.
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Re: Official 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#1617 » by Skybox » Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:42 pm

Jingles2 wrote:
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Jingles2 wrote:I'm thinking Minnesota wouldn't mind moving the number one for a player or package of players that could help them sooner. How much would Orlando value the first pick though? Would something like this even be considered by Orlando or is this an overpay?

Orlando out: Gordon, Iwundo, rights to Chuma Okeke, and the 15th pick

Orlando in: number 1 pick, James Johnson, Jared Vanderbilt, and Jake Layman

It's tough to give up both Okeke and the 15th pick. Maybe take one out and there might be a deal.



Unsurprisingly Minnesota fans say they're not getting enough in that deal and Orlando fans say they're giving up too much.


One side OR the other will be correct. Can’t tell who yet as the top picks are a crapshoot this year. I think most would agree that it’s likely that at least one of the top 3 will be disappointing- if not bust. I’d rather take on a bad deal like Wiggins than give up my few shots at upside in Okeke and 15...this could be a draft with a surprise first pick like Oladipo (Hayes?) where someone sees something and takes a swing.
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Post#1618 » by Ducklett » Sat Oct 10, 2020 5:39 pm

The Stephien really likes Cole Anthony and Tyrese Maxey. I would be curious to know why.
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Post#1619 » by Stuff » Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:20 pm

My hot takes for this draft


The best player from this draft won't be a top 3 pick.

There will be at least one all-star outside of the top 10.

There will be 10+ players that careers span 10+ years
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Post#1620 » by VFX » Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:21 pm

I’m interested to know how people rank these guards in our range based on BPA and Orlando’s “need” in skill sets.

Tyrese Maxey
Tyrell Terry
Desmond Bane
Cole Anthony
Kira Lewis Jr
RJ Hampton
Theo Maledon
Leandro Bolmaro
Tre Jones

To me, all of these options make sense as selections, some more than others. I believe most of these players will be available to Orlando if they choose not to move up. Knowing our FO, I’d guess that they choose a guy that isn’t even on this list.

A pick and roll playmaker, that can also shoot, would be ideal. Obviously I think Killian Hayes would be the best choice for those qualities. If Orlando fails to move up, then hopefully they can find that kind of player here on this list.

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