Trade Ideas Thread, 2020-21

[playa-hater]

BOLD PREDICTION #2183: Timelord will end up better than Myles Turner in two years. Maybe even as soon as end of next year, if he can stay healthy.

REVISION: It won't happen if we bring in another big and he doesn't get regular minutes.

would be nice but I have a hard time believing Timelord is a Brad Stevens type of player.

Because he doesn't shoot the three?

Minimum requirement for Stevens to stay on the floor is give multiple efforts on defense and know what you're doing on defense. If Robert can check that box, he will be trusted with more minutes.

as I have already stated, even with RW's limitations, he already provided enough evidence that he should have played more. missing some defensive assignments didn't justify his very limited amount of PT IMO.

[ConstableGeneva]

would be nice but I have a hard time believing Timelord is a Brad Stevens type of player.

Because he doesn't shoot the three?

Minimum requirement for Stevens to stay on the floor is give multiple efforts on defense and know what you're doing on defense. If Robert can check that box, he will be trusted with more minutes.

The occasional 3-ball would be nice in his arsenal.
I have seen him practicing it.

It's a nice-to-have. I don't think it's an absolute necessity. Kanter doesn't shoot the three. Amir Johnson and Brandon Bass were bigs that didn't take threes often either but still averaged 20+ mpg for Brad.

He can develop it later on, start with the corners. But defensive footwork, positioning, rotation, and communication should be his priority.

[Parliament10]

would be nice but I have a hard time believing Timelord is a Brad Stevens type of player.

R.Williams brings skills that we definitely need.
But, why do you say that he's not a Stevens-type player?

just seems like I like him more than Brad Stevens does. R Williams may not be as heady as maybe he needs to be, but just in what he has shown, with his PNR lobs and shot blocking, I have always thought he should play much more even with some limitations. But Brad over used Theis while under using RW IMO.

I think that, at the moment, Theis is a better two-way player; is more mature; and knows where to be.
Timelord needs more experience.

But I feel you though. He needs to be played more, to get that experience.
Hopefully, he's not injured too much, this next season.

[Homerclease]

BOLD PREDICTION #2183: Timelord will end up being better than Myles Turner in two years. Maybe even as soon as end of next year, if he can stay healthy.

REVISION: It won't happen if we bring in another big and he doesn't get regular minutes.

Our offense is significantly better with Williams on the court regardless of whether he can shoot the 3. They need to let him take his lumps on the defensive end and force feed him 20+ minutes a night.

More and more I like the idea of moving Kanter and a pick for B-jelly to make sure it happens too.

[playa-hater]

R.Williams brings skills that we definitely need.
But, why do you say that he's not a Stevens-type player?

just seems like I like him more than Brad Stevens does. R Williams may not be as heady as maybe he needs to be, but just in what he has shown, with his PNR lobs and shot blocking, I have always thought he should play much more even with some limitations. But Brad over used Theis while under using RW IMO.

I think that, at the moment, Theis is a better two-way player; is more mature; and knows where to be.
Timelord needs more experience.

But I feel you though. He needs to be played more, to get that experience.
Hopefully, he's not injured too much, this next season.

here is a thought. What if Boston does acquire a center (draft or trade) J Smith or M Turner. does that mean R Williams gets even less PT??

[ConstableGeneva]

I forgot we tried to trade up for Myles Turner back in 2015, if rumors were to be believed.

Spoiler:

Ended up with these legends instead...

It's also the draft year we tried moving up for Winslow. Ended up dodging a bullet there.

[Parliament10]

just seems like I like him more than Brad Stevens does. R Williams may not be as heady as maybe he needs to be, but just in what he has shown, with his PNR lobs and shot blocking, I have always thought he should play much more even with some limitations. But Brad over used Theis while under using RW IMO.

I think that, at the moment, Theis is a better two-way player; is more mature; and knows where to be.
Timelord needs more experience.

But I feel you though. He needs to be played more, to get that experience.
Hopefully, he's not injured too much, this next season.

here is a thought. What if Boston does acquire a center (draft or trade) J Smith or M Turner. does that mean R Williams gets even less PT??

That's entirely up to R.Williams. If he plays better, then Stevens will play him more.
Kanter, Poirier and G.Williams a bit, were all his current competition.

I think that Timelord can still move up the ladder, with Turner and Theis on the roster.

[ConstableGeneva]

BOLD PREDICTION #2183: Timelord will end up being better than Myles Turner in two years. Maybe even as soon as end of next year, if he can stay healthy.

REVISION: It won't happen if we bring in another big and he doesn't get regular minutes.

Our offense is significantly better with Williams on the court regardless of whether he can shoot the 3. They need to let him take his lumps on the defensive end and force feed him 20+ minutes a night.

More and more I like the idea of moving Kanter and a pick for B-jelly to make sure it happens too.

SAC is light on those wing/swing defensive stoppers. Throw in Semi with #30 and Kanter, there's the deal. They only have 7 guaranteed players entering next season. So a 1-for-3 deal could be attractive to them. Semi and Kanter are both rotational players for a conference finalist.

[Parliament10]

BOLD PREDICTION #2183: Timelord will end up being better than Myles Turner in two years. Maybe even as soon as end of next year, if he can stay healthy.

REVISION: It won't happen if we bring in another big and he doesn't get regular minutes.

Our offense is significantly better with Williams on the court regardless of whether he can shoot the 3. They need to let him take his lumps on the defensive end and force feed him 20+ minutes a night.

More and more I like the idea of moving Kanter and a pick for B-jelly to make sure it happens too.

R.Williams does need Kanter to be moved.
Who or what is "B-jelly"?

[ConstableGeneva]

BOLD PREDICTION #2183: Timelord will end up being better than Myles Turner in two years. Maybe even as soon as end of next year, if he can stay healthy.

REVISION: It won't happen if we bring in another big and he doesn't get regular minutes.

Our offense is significantly better with Williams on the court regardless of whether he can shoot the 3. They need to let him take his lumps on the defensive end and force feed him 20+ minutes a night.

More and more I like the idea of moving Kanter and a pick for B-jelly to make sure it happens too.

R.Williams does need Kanter to be moved.
Who or what is "B-jelly"?

Nemanja Bjelica. Stretch-4/5. We could use one. Can play alongside any of Grant/Rob/Theis. Nice to have coming off the bench.

[Parliament10]

Our offense is significantly better with Williams on the court regardless of whether he can shoot the 3. They need to let him take his lumps on the defensive end and force feed him 20+ minutes a night.

More and more I like the idea of moving Kanter and a pick for B-jelly to make sure it happens too.

R.Williams does need Kanter to be moved.
Who or what is "B-jelly"?

Nemanja Bjelica. Stretch-4/5. We could use one. Can play alongside any of Grant/Rob/Theis. Nice to have coming off the bench.

He's a bit interesting.
He's 32, though. Short-term guy?

[ConstableGeneva]

R.Williams does need Kanter to be moved.
Who or what is "B-jelly"?

Nemanja Bjelica. Stretch-4/5. We could use one. Can play alongside any of Grant/Rob/Theis. Nice to have coming off the bench.

He's a bit interesting.
He's 32, though. Short-term guy?

We can't have long-term guys who aren't on rookie contracts anyway due to our already bloated salary sheet. If he pans out, renew him another year or two.

Looking forward to the Kemba Juice and B-Jelly Smoothie lineups. Add any 5th guy from Smart/Grant/Rob/Theis/Hayward (if he's still with the team).

[Parliament10]

Nemanja Bjelica. Stretch-4/5. We could use one. Can play alongside any of Grant/Rob/Theis. Nice to have coming off the bench.

He's a bit interesting.
He's 32, though. Short-term guy?

We can't have long-term guys who aren't on rookie contracts anyway due to our already bloated salary sheet. If he pans out, renew him another year or two.

Looking forward to the Kemba Juice and B-Jelly Smoothie lineups. Add any 5th guy from Smart/Grant/Rob/Theis/Hayward (if he's still with the team).

Well mixed.

[djFan71]

Because he doesn't shoot the three?

Minimum requirement for Stevens to stay on the floor is give multiple efforts on defense and know what you're doing on defense. If Robert can check that box, he will be trusted with more minutes.

The occasional 3-ball would be nice in his arsenal.
I have seen him practicing it.

It's a nice-to-have. I don't think it's an absolute necessity. Kanter doesn't shoot the three. Amir Johnson and Brandon Bass were bigs that didn't take threes often either but still averaged 20+ mpg for Brad.

He can develop it later on, start with the corners. But defensive footwork, positioning, rotation, and communication should be his priority.

Agreed. Also, his passing makes up for the lack of threes for a while.

[Asian Celtic]

R.Williams does need Kanter to be moved.
Who or what is "B-jelly"?

Nemanja Bjelica. Stretch-4/5. We could use one. Can play alongside any of Grant/Rob/Theis. Nice to have coming off the bench.

He's a bit interesting.
He's 32, though. Short-term guy?

Why not sign back our Legendary Ham n Egger in Kelly-o? He's a FA next season right?

Probably gonna command more than we're willing to play. Sigh

[Asian Celtic]

He's a bit interesting.
He's 32, though. Short-term guy?

We can't have long-term guys who aren't on rookie contracts anyway due to our already bloated salary sheet. If he pans out, renew him another year or two.

Looking forward to the Kemba Juice and B-Jelly Smoothie lineups. Add any 5th guy from Smart/Grant/Rob/Theis/Hayward (if he's still with the team).

Well mixed.

Danny about to cook something jelly next season.

[ConstableGeneva]

Nemanja Bjelica. Stretch-4/5. We could use one. Can play alongside any of Grant/Rob/Theis. Nice to have coming off the bench.

He's a bit interesting.
He's 32, though. Short-term guy?

Why not sign back our Legendary Ham n Egger in Kelly-o? He's a FA next season right?

Probably gonna command more than we're willing to play. Sigh

TKO has a player option worth $13.2M. If I'm him, I'm not turning that down. He's already playing for a finalist. Cs can't offer more than the taxpayer's MLE (maybe half of what he'll get from Miami).

[Triple7]

Because he doesn't shoot the three?

Minimum requirement for Stevens to stay on the floor is give multiple efforts on defense and know what you're doing on defense. If Robert can check that box, he will be trusted with more minutes.

The occasional 3-ball would be nice in his arsenal.
I have seen him practicing it.

It's a nice-to-have. I don't think it's an absolute necessity. Kanter doesn't shoot the three. Amir Johnson and Brandon Bass were bigs that didn't take threes often either but still averaged 20+ mpg for Brad.

He can develop it later on, start with the corners. But defensive footwork, positioning, rotation, and communication should be his priority.

Do we really need our center to take 3’s??? We have the other 4 guys taking that already. Peraonally, i’m sick of all the 3pt chuckfest that we have been doing the past 2 season. What we need is a center that can defend the paint and shot block. R.Will can actually do that. Another thing is a center that can post up, and actually score on his own. Not just rely on lobs and passes underneath. R.Will needs to develop his offensive game if he wants more playing time. Right now, we need an upgrade at the 5 as a top priority. We can’t wait for R.Will to develop. That might take 2-3 years. Every team in east will try to improve next season. The Nets would be there as well if healthy. Our team as constructed right now, is not good enough to win it all. We have a lot of flaws. A big defensive center. A big guard or wing that can score off the bench. Quality veterans in the bench as well. It’s time for Danny to step up and not be soft. Trade Hayward, or trade Kemba, anything to get better. Tatum and Brown have a lot of experience already even if they are young. Let’s put the right pieces around them now! Don’t wait for others to develop. Find the right pieces now Danny. Don’t WAIT!

[SmartWentCrazy]

Correct— I meant 46

I'm not opposed to this then, but I'd try to get a bit more. This is an ainge type move though

I doubt you need to send anything POR way, honestly. Kanter is a useful player they can use. Either a fake 2nd coming back, or I bet we could get 46 without sending 30. Still a super cheap pickup for POR. We might be able to do:

POR: Kanter for 46
SAC: Poirier, 30, 46, 47 for Bjelica
BOS: Bjelica for Kanter, 30, 47.

SAC may get a higher late pick from someone else, though, is the problem. And I'd rather draft 26 than trade for Bjelica.

If we could dump Kanter for an asset, his deal would be seen as an asset and I’m guessing he wouldnt be opting in.

I dont think this is the case nor will anyone will take him without compensation

[SmartWentCrazy]

Our offense is significantly better with Williams on the court regardless of whether he can shoot the 3. They need to let him take his lumps on the defensive end and force feed him 20+ minutes a night.

More and more I like the idea of moving Kanter and a pick for B-jelly to make sure it happens too.

R.Williams does need Kanter to be moved.
Who or what is "B-jelly"?

Nemanja Bjelica. Stretch-4/5. We could use one. Can play alongside any of Grant/Rob/Theis. Nice to have coming off the bench.

He wouldnt play along side them; he’s too poor a defender to play the the 4 and would be a strict 5 here. He’d play over the two Williams, and I’m just not interested and stifling their development for a guy like Bjelica.