2020 Draft Thread, Part 2

Little Digger · Post #541 » by **Little Digger** » Sun Oct 11, 2020 7:06 pm

Mylie10 wrote:Wendell Carter - 1 block per game per 36 minutes, ouch

6’9” 270 ouch

my eyes pop in every time I watch him play..then I take an old guy nap

AdonalFoyle4Prez · Post #542 » by **AdonalFoyle4Prez** » Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:13 pm

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/nba-rumors-warriors-eyeing-devin-vassell-if-they-trade-back-draft

I’d be all right with Vassell if we trade down. But, who’d be a good trade partner?

Mylie10 · Post #543 » by **Mylie10** » Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:41 pm

If Wiseman is off the table when we pick, I’m all for the trade down ideas.

And the crop of guys we’d have to pick in a trade down scenario is a nice group. Lots of fits for us.

And of course allows us to add another piece for depth.

Scoots1994 · Post #544 » by **Scoots1994** » Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:55 pm

Mylie10 wrote:If Wiseman is off the table when we pick, I’m all for the trade down ideas.

And the crop of guys we’d have to pick in a trade down scenario is a nice group. Lots of fits for us.

And of course allows us to add another piece for depth.

What if the Warriors research shows that Wiseman isn't going to be picked by any other team in the top 7 picks? Would you be okay with a trade down to 8 for them to then take Wiseman?

DevinVassell · Post #545 » by **DevinVassell** » Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:29 am

Warriors getting Wiseman at 8 would be a coup. Possible if he doesn't get picked in the first 3 he could freefall a little due to teams getting cold feet. Highly unlikely though.

I guess you could trade down with the hope of still getting him if the piece/pieces coming back were enticing. Worst scenario is you still get a pretty good draft pick at 8 plus assets but personally I wouldn't get cute. Just take him 2 and be happy. Whichever Nostradamus that is getting reliable intel on 7 teams needs to send me next weeks lotto numbers.

Old_Blue · Post #546 » by **Old_Blue** » Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:35 am

AdonalFoyle4Prez wrote:https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/nba-rumors-warriors-eyeing-devin-vassell-if-they-trade-back-draft

I’d be all right with Vassell if we trade down. But, who’d be a good trade partner?

The Knicks would be the logical trade partner at #8. The Warriors send the #2 pick to the Knicks for the #8 pick this year and a first round pick in 2022. I don't think the Knicks would be dumb enough to part with their first round pick in a stacked draft next year. That would set the Warriors up with four first round picks in 2021 and 2022, including two presumably high ones from Minny and NY. Trade flexibility galore.

AdonalFoyle4Prez · Post #547 » by **AdonalFoyle4Prez** » Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:50 am

Old_Blue wrote:
AdonalFoyle4Prez wrote:https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/nba-rumors-warriors-eyeing-devin-vassell-if-they-trade-back-draft

I’d be all right with Vassell if we trade down. But, who’d be a good trade partner?

The Knicks would be the logical trade partner at #8. The Warriors send the #2 pick to the Knicks for the #8 pick this year and a first round pick in 2022. I don't think the Knicks would be dumb enough to part with their first round pick in a stacked draft next year. That would set the Warriors up with four first round picks in 2021 and 2022, including two presumably high ones from Minny and NY. Trade flexibility galore.

I think they're looking at LaMelo (Minny could crush our hopes). If there's a mutual agreement, I think LaMelo + Chriss for their #8 + Mitchell Robinson would be fair. But, damn, who do we really want at 8!?!??!

ShayDee · Post #548 » by **ShayDee** » Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:57 am

If the lakers are going yo defend like this next year cross out Okoro and Okongwu from the list

Zenzibar · Post #549 » by **Zenzibar** » Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:08 am

AdonalFoyle4Prez wrote:
Old_Blue wrote:
AdonalFoyle4Prez wrote:https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/nba-rumors-warriors-eyeing-devin-vassell-if-they-trade-back-draft

I’d be all right with Vassell if we trade down. But, who’d be a good trade partner?

The Knicks would be the logical trade partner at #8. The Warriors send the #2 pick to the Knicks for the #8 pick this year and a first round pick in 2022. I don't think the Knicks would be dumb enough to part with their first round pick in a stacked draft next year. That would set the Warriors up with four first round picks in 2021 and 2022, including two presumably high ones from Minny and NY. Trade flexibility galore.

I think they're looking at LaMelo (Minny could crush our hopes). If there's a mutual agreement, I think LaMelo + Chriss for their #8 + Mitchell Robinson would be fair. But, damn, who do we really want at 8!?!??!

Hey listen, sure there are NY fans that that would be good with that trade proposal.

Others fans, unless it's Wiseman, they wouldn't see the point of leaving a whole in the middle. Cause, to be honest, what good would it do for LaMelo to be without Mitchell Robinson?

They'll be more ammacable to do #8 and Randall with the 2022, for #2 and Chriss.

AdonalFoyle4Prez · Post #550 » by **AdonalFoyle4Prez** » Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:13 am

Zenzibar wrote:
AdonalFoyle4Prez wrote:
Old_Blue wrote:
The Knicks would be the logical trade partner at #8. The Warriors send the #2 pick to the Knicks for the #8 pick this year and a first round pick in 2022. I don't think the Knicks would be dumb enough to part with their first round pick in a stacked draft next year. That would set the Warriors up with four first round picks in 2021 and 2022, including two presumably high ones from Minny and NY. Trade flexibility galore.

I think they're looking at LaMelo (Minny could crush our hopes). If there's a mutual agreement, I think LaMelo + Chriss for their #8 + Mitchell Robinson would be fair. But, damn, who do we really want at 8!?!??!

Hey listen, sure there are NY fans that that would be good with that trade proposal.

Others fans, unless it's Wiseman, they wouldn't see the point of leaving a whole in the middle. Cause, to be honest, what good would it do for LaMelo to be without Mitchell Robinson?

They'll be more ammacable to do #8 and Randall with the 2022, for #2 and Chriss.

That's fair. We don't want anything to do with Randall, but I guess Bobby Portis in place of him?

Scoots1994 · Post #551 » by **Scoots1994** » Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:58 am

Zenzibar wrote:
AdonalFoyle4Prez wrote:
Old_Blue wrote:
The Knicks would be the logical trade partner at #8. The Warriors send the #2 pick to the Knicks for the #8 pick this year and a first round pick in 2022. I don't think the Knicks would be dumb enough to part with their first round pick in a stacked draft next year. That would set the Warriors up with four first round picks in 2021 and 2022, including two presumably high ones from Minny and NY. Trade flexibility galore.

I think they're looking at LaMelo (Minny could crush our hopes). If there's a mutual agreement, I think LaMelo + Chriss for their #8 + Mitchell Robinson would be fair. But, damn, who do we really want at 8!?!??!

Hey listen, sure there are NY fans that that would be good with that trade proposal.

Others fans, unless it's Wiseman, they wouldn't see the point of leaving a whole in the middle. Cause, to be honest, what good would it do for LaMelo to be without Mitchell Robinson?

They'll be more ammacable to do #8 and Randall with the 2022, for #2 and Chriss.

The Warriors better not make that deal. #2 AND Chriss for #8 and Randall would be a major fail for the Warriors.

Scoots1994 · Post #552 » by **Scoots1994** » Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:59 am

AdonalFoyle4Prez wrote:
Zenzibar wrote:
AdonalFoyle4Prez wrote:
I think they're looking at LaMelo (Minny could crush our hopes). If there's a mutual agreement, I think LaMelo + Chriss for their #8 + Mitchell Robinson would be fair. But, damn, who do we really want at 8!?!??!

Hey listen, sure there are NY fans that that would be good with that trade proposal.

Others fans, unless it's Wiseman, they wouldn't see the point of leaving a whole in the middle. Cause, to be honest, what good would it do for LaMelo to be without Mitchell Robinson?

They'll be more ammacable to do #8 and Randall with the 2022, for #2 and Chriss.

That's fair. We don't want anything to do with Randall, but I guess Bobby Portis in place of him?

That's still crazy.

Mylie10 · Post #553 » by **Mylie10** » Mon Oct 12, 2020 2:09 am

AdonalFoyle4Prez wrote:
Zenzibar wrote:
AdonalFoyle4Prez wrote:
I think they're looking at LaMelo (Minny could crush our hopes). If there's a mutual agreement, I think LaMelo + Chriss for their #8 + Mitchell Robinson would be fair. But, damn, who do we really want at 8!?!??!

Hey listen, sure there are NY fans that that would be good with that trade proposal.

Others fans, unless it's Wiseman, they wouldn't see the point of leaving a whole in the middle. Cause, to be honest, what good would it do for LaMelo to be without Mitchell Robinson?

They'll be more ammacable to do #8 and Randall with the 2022, for #2 and Chriss.

That's fair. We don't want anything to do with Randall, but I guess Bobby Portis in place of him?

Huge no for any Porto’s idea. Mostly because Draymond would eventually kill him and be facing a murder one charge.

AdonalFoyle4Prez · Post #554 » by **AdonalFoyle4Prez** » Mon Oct 12, 2020 2:13 am

Mylie10 wrote:
AdonalFoyle4Prez wrote:
Zenzibar wrote:
Hey listen, sure there are NY fans that that would be good with that trade proposal.

Others fans, unless it's Wiseman, they wouldn't see the point of leaving a whole in the middle. Cause, to be honest, what good would it do for LaMelo to be without Mitchell Robinson?

They'll be more ammacable to do #8 and Randall with the 2022, for #2 and Chriss.

That's fair. We don't want anything to do with Randall, but I guess Bobby Portis in place of him?

Huge no for any Porto’s idea. Mostly because Draymond would eventually kill him and be facing a murder one charge.

LOL yeah, that guy a straight-up thug. Have you seen some of the dirty plays he's done on KCP? If anything, Draymond and Bobby would be the twin assassins, though. :lol:

But yeah, this ain't happening.

ShayDee · Post #555 » by **ShayDee** » Mon Oct 12, 2020 2:15 am

Why do people want to settle with mediocrity when trading down? Like draft being weak or not why should we settle for players that will do nothing for us?

I don't really care for the stats they put up in bad teams, those players have a rep of not being good so why should they be the deal breaker to trade down? If we are not getting a 2021 pick back then stay at 2 and take the BPA. I will hate if we get a player that would cause spacing issues or not even play any kind of defense. Mitch Rob is mediocre in my opinion

Mylie10 · Post #556 » by **Mylie10** » Mon Oct 12, 2020 2:20 am

ShayDee wrote:Why do people want to settle with mediocrity when trading down? Like draft being weak or not why should we settle for players that will do nothing for us?

I don't really care for the stats they put up in bad teams, those players have a rep of not being good so why should they be the deal breaker to trade down? If we are not getting a 2021 pick back then stay at 2 and take the BPA. I will hate if we get a player that would cause spacing issues or not even play any kind of defense. Mitch Rob is mediocre in my opinion

My stance was if Wiseman was taken before we pick. Then I’m all for trade down if possible.

Zenzibar · Post #557 » by **Zenzibar** » Mon Oct 12, 2020 2:20 am

ShayDee wrote:Why do people want to settle with mediocrity when trading down? Like draft being weak or not why should we settle for players that will do nothing for us?

I don't really care for the stats they put up in bad teams, those players have a rep of not being good so why should they be the deal breaker to trade down? If we are not getting a 2021 pick back then stay at 2 and take the BPA. I will hate if we get a player that would cause spacing issues or not even play any kind of defense. Mitch Rob is mediocre in my opinion

Unfortunately the Warriors have the #2 pick, in a guard heavy draft.
Sucks, trust me I know, imma Knicks fan. lol

ShayDee · Post #558 » by **ShayDee** » Mon Oct 12, 2020 2:31 am

Mylie10 wrote:
ShayDee wrote:Why do people want to settle with mediocrity when trading down? Like draft being weak or not why should we settle for players that will do nothing for us?

I don't really care for the stats they put up in bad teams, those players have a rep of not being good so why should they be the deal breaker to trade down? If we are not getting a 2021 pick back then stay at 2 and take the BPA. I will hate if we get a player that would cause spacing issues or not even play any kind of defense. Mitch Rob is mediocre in my opinion

My stance was if Wiseman was taken before we pick. Then I’m all for trade down if possible.

And then in 3 years when who we pass up is an allstar and the player we trade down for is getting 12min per game. If we do not get value back for the #2 it is not worth it. But yea I don't really like Ball/Edwards. But the other options trading down are not that impressive

Middle of the draft is intruiging though. I believe my guy would get at least 20mins. Maybe Nesmith and Bey would get some too. I don't know about Vassell/Williams. I think vassel gets more playtime but if he is not making shots then what will he bring here? He is not that much of a passer and will just turn the ball over when forced to make plays.

Like the lakers swarm everyone. We need shot makers and better passers and more strength. We cannot wait for guys to develop NBA bodies. They would just get bullied and will get no minutes on this team, thereby stunting their development(Like Deni and Hali)

Coxy · Post #559 » by **Coxy** » Mon Oct 12, 2020 2:37 am

I'm now on drafting Wiseman, if unavailable, trade back for Patrick Williams.

ShayDee · Post #560 » by **ShayDee** » Mon Oct 12, 2020 2:37 am

Zenzibar wrote:
ShayDee wrote:Why do people want to settle with mediocrity when trading down? Like draft being weak or not why should we settle for players that will do nothing for us?

I don't really care for the stats they put up in bad teams, those players have a rep of not being good so why should they be the deal breaker to trade down? If we are not getting a 2021 pick back then stay at 2 and take the BPA. I will hate if we get a player that would cause spacing issues or not even play any kind of defense. Mitch Rob is mediocre in my opinion

Unfortunately the Warriors have the #2 pick, in a guard heavy draft.
Sucks, trust me I know, imma Knicks fan. lol

give us your 2021 pick and Dallas 2021 pick then you can jump up 6 spots in a bad draft