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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#561 » by Zenzibar » Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:01 am

ShayDee wrote:
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ShayDee wrote:Why do people want to settle with mediocrity when trading down? Like draft being weak or not why should we settle for players that will do nothing for us?

I don't really care for the stats they put up in bad teams, those players have a rep of not being good so why should they be the deal breaker to trade down? If we are not getting a 2021 pick back then stay at 2 and take the BPA. I will hate if we get a player that would cause spacing issues or not even play any kind of defense. Mitch Rob is mediocre in my opinion


Unfortunately the Warriors have the #2 pick, in a guard heavy draft.
Sucks, trust me I know, imma Knicks fan. lol


give us your 2021 pick and Dallas 2021 pick then you can jump up 6 spots in a bad draft


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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#562 » by ShayDee » Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:28 am

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give us your 2021 pick and Dallas 2021 pick then you can jump up 6 spots in a bad draft


Oh ok.

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c'mon bruh, you offered up Randall. You think spin moves are allowed here without 2 '21 picks as compensation?

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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#563 » by Zenzibar » Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:38 am

ShayDee wrote:
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ShayDee wrote:
give us your 2021 pick and Dallas 2021 pick then you can jump up 6 spots in a bad draft


Oh ok.

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c'mon bruh, you offered up Randall. You think spin moves are allowed here without 2 '21 picks as compensation?

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Spin moves are priceless unto themselves.

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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#564 » by Scoots1994 » Mon Oct 12, 2020 4:13 pm

Meme-off or not it's a bad deal
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#565 » by ILOVEIT » Mon Oct 12, 2020 7:23 pm

DevinVassell wrote:Warriors getting Wiseman at 8 would be a coup. Possible if he doesn't get picked in the first 3 he could freefall a little due to teams getting cold feet. Highly unlikely though.

I guess you could trade down with the hope of still getting him if the piece/pieces coming back were enticing. Worst scenario is you still get a pretty good draft pick at 8 plus assets but personally I wouldn't get cute. Just take him 2 and be happy. Whichever Nostradamus that is getting reliable intel on 7 teams needs to send me next weeks lotto numbers.


This Wiseman situation. Let's put it this way: If he IS a legit stud....Warriors are going to win 3 more chips in the next 6 years. So while I don't believe he's that guy....man it would be sweet if he turns out to be. If he is....Warriors will pick him...no doubt (assuming they are able to judge his skills and personality correctly).
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#566 » by ILOVEIT » Mon Oct 12, 2020 7:28 pm

Scoots1994 wrote:
Zenzibar wrote:
AdonalFoyle4Prez wrote:
I think they're looking at LaMelo (Minny could crush our hopes). If there's a mutual agreement, I think LaMelo + Chriss for their #8 + Mitchell Robinson would be fair. But, damn, who do we really want at 8!?!??!


Hey listen, sure there are NY fans that that would be good with that trade proposal.

Others fans, unless it's Wiseman, they wouldn't see the point of leaving a whole in the middle. Cause, to be honest, what good would it do for LaMelo to be without Mitchell Robinson?

They'll be more ammacable to do #8 and Randall with the 2022, for #2 and Chriss.


The Warriors better not make that deal. #2 AND Chriss for #8 and Randall would be a major fail for the Warriors.


Where ever he's gone...Randall just hasn't had whatever it is to make that team any better than trash...:(

Averages 29.5% from 3 point line...72% from FT...8 rebounds a game....THAT is the definition of a waste of a prime precious NBA PF position. He doesn't stretch the floor...he doesn't make FT efficiently...and after all that he doesn't even rebound at an abvoe average rebounding rate for a PF. :(

Waste of space.....no thank you.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#567 » by AdonalFoyle4Prez » Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:05 pm

ILOVEIT wrote:
DevinVassell wrote:Warriors getting Wiseman at 8 would be a coup. Possible if he doesn't get picked in the first 3 he could freefall a little due to teams getting cold feet. Highly unlikely though.

I guess you could trade down with the hope of still getting him if the piece/pieces coming back were enticing. Worst scenario is you still get a pretty good draft pick at 8 plus assets but personally I wouldn't get cute. Just take him 2 and be happy. Whichever Nostradamus that is getting reliable intel on 7 teams needs to send me next weeks lotto numbers.


This Wiseman situation. Let's put it this way: If he IS a legit stud....Warriors are going to win 3 more chips in the next 6 years. So while I don't believe he's that guy....man it would be sweet if he turns out to be. If he is....Warriors will pick him...no doubt (assuming they are able to judge his skills and personality correctly).


I think he's the safe pick for what we need. Obviously, as I mentioned countless times, he's going to have issues playing along the perimeter because he doesn't have any skills there other than a potential 3 pointer. So, will teams force the Dubs to sit him when they go small? Will his minutes be inconsistent?

That's what we're gambling with as this is the current and preferred style of play.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#568 » by Coxy » Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:12 pm

ILOVEIT wrote:
Scoots1994 wrote:
Zenzibar wrote:
Hey listen, sure there are NY fans that that would be good with that trade proposal.

Others fans, unless it's Wiseman, they wouldn't see the point of leaving a whole in the middle. Cause, to be honest, what good would it do for LaMelo to be without Mitchell Robinson?

They'll be more ammacable to do #8 and Randall with the 2022, for #2 and Chriss.


The Warriors better not make that deal. #2 AND Chriss for #8 and Randall would be a major fail for the Warriors.


Where ever he's gone...Randall just hasn't had whatever it is to make that team any better than trash...:(

Averages 29.5% from 3 point line...72% from FT...8 rebounds a game....THAT is the definition of a waste of a prime precious NBA PF position. He doesn't stretch the floor...he doesn't make FT efficiently...and after all that he doesn't even rebound at an abvoe average rebounding rate for a PF. :(

Waste of space.....no thank you.


Not that I want him, I definitely don't, but Randle could be a legit guy if he the correct head space, players around him, and coaching to keep him in his lane. The longer he goes without a controlled, humbled situation around him, the longer the shot will be for him to mentally turn it around. That Knicks situation could be just about the worst situation for him, other than his bank account.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#569 » by Ilovethebay » Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:47 pm

Coxy wrote:
ILOVEIT wrote:
Scoots1994 wrote:
The Warriors better not make that deal. #2 AND Chriss for #8 and Randall would be a major fail for the Warriors.


Where ever he's gone...Randall just hasn't had whatever it is to make that team any better than trash...:(

Averages 29.5% from 3 point line...72% from FT...8 rebounds a game....THAT is the definition of a waste of a prime precious NBA PF position. He doesn't stretch the floor...he doesn't make FT efficiently...and after all that he doesn't even rebound at an abvoe average rebounding rate for a PF. :(

Waste of space.....no thank you.


Not that I want him, I definitely don't, but Randle could be a legit guy if he the correct head space, players around him, and coaching to keep him in his lane. The longer he goes without a controlled, humbled situation around him, the longer the shot will be for him to mentally turn it around. That Knicks situation could be just about the worst situation for him, other than his bank account.


I agree. I guess it all comes down to: what kind of knuckle head is he ? The kind that will always be a knuckle head no matter what the circumstances, or the kind that could put that ish on pause when surrounded by strong positive role models. At some point we are going to have to make a play for players of his ilk. Guys that need a little polishing that are on the cheap side. After all 90% of our cap is tied up in 4 players.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#570 » by AdonalFoyle4Prez » Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:48 pm

If we're still going the Wiseman route, I'm seeing something like this:

TRADE: Chriss + 48th pick for another team's early 2nd round pick and draft Paul Reed (Modern day 4 and 5, lanky put plays big. defensive workhorse.)
2020 51st pick: Abdoulaye N'Doye (6'7" PG/SG/SF from France, wingspan: 7'2", natural facilitator, shot 41% from 3)

MLE: Moe Harkless
Your 3 & D player. We need that defensive wing to play behind Wiggins and to defend 2 - 4.

TPE: Not sure.. Still stumped on how to go about utilizing this...

Partial / Non-Guarantee Contract: Michael Carter Williams
Not sure if this is to drive his value up, but these articles (A couple) seems convincing that I'd sign him up (Unless they do it first):
https://www.orlandopinstripedpost.com/2020/4/6/21206470/orlando-magic-michael-carter-williams
https://orlandomagicdaily.com/2020/09/24/2020-orlando-magic-player-evaluations-michael-carter-williams-found-a-home-with-orlando-magic/
https://www.nba.com/magic/nikola-vucevic-michael-carter-williams-hes-critical-player-have-our-team-20200311

Depth:
Curry/Poole/MCW
Thompson/Lee/N'Doye
Wiggins/Harkless/Tuscano
Green/Paschall/Reed
Wiseman/Looney/Smiley
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#571 » by Warriors Analyst » Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:56 pm

AdonalFoyle4Prez wrote:If we're still going the Wiseman route, I'm seeing something like this:

TRADE: Chriss + 48th pick for another team's early 2nd round pick and draft Paul Reed (Modern day 4 and 5, lanky put plays big. defensive workhorse.)
2020 51st pick: Abdoulaye N'Doye (6'7" PG/SG/SF from France, wingspan: 7'2", natural facilitator, shot 41% from 3)

MLE: Moe Harkless
Your 3 & D player. We need that defensive wing to play behind Wiggins and to defend 2 - 4.

TPE: Not sure.. Still stumped on how to go about utilizing this...

Partial / Non-Guarantee Contract: Michael Carter Williams
Not sure if this is to drive his value up, but these articles (A couple) seems convincing that I'd sign him up (Unless they do it first):
https://www.orlandopinstripedpost.com/2020/4/6/21206470/orlando-magic-michael-carter-williams
https://orlandomagicdaily.com/2020/09/24/2020-orlando-magic-player-evaluations-michael-carter-williams-found-a-home-with-orlando-magic/
https://www.nba.com/magic/nikola-vucevic-michael-carter-williams-hes-critical-player-have-our-team-20200311

Depth:
Curry/Poole/MCW
Thompson/Lee/N'Doye
Wiggins/Harkless/Tuscano
Green/Paschall/Reed
Wiseman/Looney/Smiley


It would be insane to go into the season with only Wiseman/Looney/Green at the C. Green will miss games to preserve his body, Looney is no guarantee to play a full season, so you're banking on a 19 year old Wiseman to eat up the bulk of those C minutes. I also don't really like the idea of trading Chriss. Would rather trade Smiley if you're going to go the route of consolidating the seconds for an early second round pick. Also not really wild about MCW. Seen a lot of him in his Milwaukee days and I know that he has a better sense of his role than he used to, but he's a pretty terrible shooter and in this offseason plan, the best shooter acquired is Mo Harkless. Don't think this team gets out of the 2nd round and would probably have to go 6 games to get out of the first round.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#572 » by AdonalFoyle4Prez » Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:04 pm

Warriors Analyst wrote:
AdonalFoyle4Prez wrote:If we're still going the Wiseman route, I'm seeing something like this:

TRADE: Chriss + 48th pick for another team's early 2nd round pick and draft Paul Reed (Modern day 4 and 5, lanky put plays big. defensive workhorse.)
2020 51st pick: Abdoulaye N'Doye (6'7" PG/SG/SF from France, wingspan: 7'2", natural facilitator, shot 41% from 3)

MLE: Moe Harkless
Your 3 & D player. We need that defensive wing to play behind Wiggins and to defend 2 - 4.

TPE: Not sure.. Still stumped on how to go about utilizing this...

Partial / Non-Guarantee Contract: Michael Carter Williams
Not sure if this is to drive his value up, but these articles (A couple) seems convincing that I'd sign him up (Unless they do it first):
https://www.orlandopinstripedpost.com/2020/4/6/21206470/orlando-magic-michael-carter-williams
https://orlandomagicdaily.com/2020/09/24/2020-orlando-magic-player-evaluations-michael-carter-williams-found-a-home-with-orlando-magic/
https://www.nba.com/magic/nikola-vucevic-michael-carter-williams-hes-critical-player-have-our-team-20200311

Depth:
Curry/Poole/MCW
Thompson/Lee/N'Doye
Wiggins/Harkless/Tuscano
Green/Paschall/Reed
Wiseman/Looney/Smiley


It would be insane to go into the season with only Wiseman/Looney/Green at the C. Green will miss games to preserve his body, Looney is no guarantee to play a full season, so you're banking on a 19 year old Wiseman to eat up the bulk of those C minutes. I also don't really like the idea of trading Chriss. Would rather trade Smiley if you're going to go the route of consolidating the seconds for an early second round pick. Also not really wild about MCW. Seen a lot of him in his Milwaukee days and I know that he has a better sense of his role than he used to, but he's a pretty terrible shooter and in this offseason plan, the best shooter acquired is Mo Harkless. Don't think this team gets out of the 2nd round and would probably have to go 6 games to get out of the first round.


This offseason, don't really think we're at the disposal to pick up free agents left and right with ease, or make a trade that benefits both sides. Tried to propose many trade scenarios on other boards (Some trade scenarios that are extremely straight-forward, crazy/stupid, and even complex) and no agreement can be made. To make any big roster change, we have to trade Wiggins and the #2, and no one is biting on that.

I think it's time for us to settle with the reality of our decisions in handing out these contracts to put us at a disadvantage, salary-cap wise. Gotta roll with the punches and hope for the best.. Or, hope for a GM asinine enough to trade for Wiggins and #2. The league's teams are modeling/structuring their team like ours.. it's definitely a compliment.

Unless you have a gameplan you conjured up that no one has thought up of yet?
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#573 » by Warriors Analyst » Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:15 pm

AdonalFoyle4Prez wrote:
Warriors Analyst wrote:
AdonalFoyle4Prez wrote:If we're still going the Wiseman route, I'm seeing something like this:

TRADE: Chriss + 48th pick for another team's early 2nd round pick and draft Paul Reed (Modern day 4 and 5, lanky put plays big. defensive workhorse.)
2020 51st pick: Abdoulaye N'Doye (6'7" PG/SG/SF from France, wingspan: 7'2", natural facilitator, shot 41% from 3)

MLE: Moe Harkless
Your 3 & D player. We need that defensive wing to play behind Wiggins and to defend 2 - 4.

TPE: Not sure.. Still stumped on how to go about utilizing this...

Partial / Non-Guarantee Contract: Michael Carter Williams
Not sure if this is to drive his value up, but these articles (A couple) seems convincing that I'd sign him up (Unless they do it first):
https://www.orlandopinstripedpost.com/2020/4/6/21206470/orlando-magic-michael-carter-williams
https://orlandomagicdaily.com/2020/09/24/2020-orlando-magic-player-evaluations-michael-carter-williams-found-a-home-with-orlando-magic/
https://www.nba.com/magic/nikola-vucevic-michael-carter-williams-hes-critical-player-have-our-team-20200311

Depth:
Curry/Poole/MCW
Thompson/Lee/N'Doye
Wiggins/Harkless/Tuscano
Green/Paschall/Reed
Wiseman/Looney/Smiley


It would be insane to go into the season with only Wiseman/Looney/Green at the C. Green will miss games to preserve his body, Looney is no guarantee to play a full season, so you're banking on a 19 year old Wiseman to eat up the bulk of those C minutes. I also don't really like the idea of trading Chriss. Would rather trade Smiley if you're going to go the route of consolidating the seconds for an early second round pick. Also not really wild about MCW. Seen a lot of him in his Milwaukee days and I know that he has a better sense of his role than he used to, but he's a pretty terrible shooter and in this offseason plan, the best shooter acquired is Mo Harkless. Don't think this team gets out of the 2nd round and would probably have to go 6 games to get out of the first round.


This offseason, don't really think we're at the disposal to pick up free agents left and right with ease, or make a trade that benefits both sides. Tried to propose to others in other boards (Some trade scenarios that are extremely straight-forward, crazy/stupid, and even complex) and no agreement can be made. To make any big roster change, we have to trade Wiggins and the #2, and no one is biting on that.

I think it's time for us to settle with the reality of our decisions in handing out these contracts to put us at a disadvantage, salary-cap wise. Gotta roll with the punches and hope for the best.. Or, hope for a GM asinine enough to trade for Wiggins and #2. The league's teams are modeling/structuring their team like ours.. it's definitely a compliment.


I agree with you in that FA pickings will be slim, particularly at the wing. Wiggins trades are pretty difficult to make work because his value league wide is so low. I don't think we need big, big roster changes, but I also don't think it's responsible to have a center rotation that consists of a rookie, a 6'5 former DPOY crossing into his 30's, and a 6'9 guy with the body of someone in his late 30's. It just feels like the roster proposed here is only marginally better than our current one. Harkless is solid and I'd be fine with having him. But I don't think all that highly of MCW and there's a good chance that Chriss is a better player than Wiseman is next year, so this feels like waiving the white flag.

Myles Turner is a name that's been brought up a lot around here. I think he's probably the most gettable of all the names that have been thrown around and I think he makes the team a lot better. I don't think Indiana would do a Wiggins trade for him, but the #2 signed to their respective contract, Looney, and Poole works financially. I'd be a bit bummed to lose Looney if he ever comes back to form and I'm curious about Poole's future, so I'd be a bit bummed, but that trade probably gives us one of the better starting 5's in basketball.

If not Turner, I still think this team needs a vet C and that doesn't change if we get Wiseman.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#574 » by AdonalFoyle4Prez » Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:25 pm

Warriors Analyst wrote:
AdonalFoyle4Prez wrote:
Warriors Analyst wrote:
It would be insane to go into the season with only Wiseman/Looney/Green at the C. Green will miss games to preserve his body, Looney is no guarantee to play a full season, so you're banking on a 19 year old Wiseman to eat up the bulk of those C minutes. I also don't really like the idea of trading Chriss. Would rather trade Smiley if you're going to go the route of consolidating the seconds for an early second round pick. Also not really wild about MCW. Seen a lot of him in his Milwaukee days and I know that he has a better sense of his role than he used to, but he's a pretty terrible shooter and in this offseason plan, the best shooter acquired is Mo Harkless. Don't think this team gets out of the 2nd round and would probably have to go 6 games to get out of the first round.


This offseason, don't really think we're at the disposal to pick up free agents left and right with ease, or make a trade that benefits both sides. Tried to propose to others in other boards (Some trade scenarios that are extremely straight-forward, crazy/stupid, and even complex) and no agreement can be made. To make any big roster change, we have to trade Wiggins and the #2, and no one is biting on that.

I think it's time for us to settle with the reality of our decisions in handing out these contracts to put us at a disadvantage, salary-cap wise. Gotta roll with the punches and hope for the best.. Or, hope for a GM asinine enough to trade for Wiggins and #2. The league's teams are modeling/structuring their team like ours.. it's definitely a compliment.


I agree with you in that FA pickings will be slim, particularly at the wing. Wiggins trades are pretty difficult to make work because his value league wide is so low. I don't think we need big, big roster changes, but I also don't think it's responsible to have a center rotation that consists of a rookie, a 6'5 former DPOY crossing into his 30's, and a 6'9 guy with the body of someone in his late 30's. It just feels like the roster proposed here is only marginally better than our current one. Harkless is solid and I'd be fine with having him. But I don't think all that highly of MCW and there's a good chance that Chriss is a better player than Wiseman is next year, so this feels like waiving the white flag.

Myles Turner is a name that's been brought up a lot around here. I think he's probably the most gettable of all the names that have been thrown around and I think he makes the team a lot better. I don't think Indiana would do a Wiggins trade for him, but the #2 signed to their respective contract, Looney, and Poole works financially. I'd be a bit bummed to lose Looney if he ever comes back to form and I'm curious about Poole's future, so I'd be a bit bummed, but that trade probably gives us one of the better starting 5's in basketball.

If not Turner, I still think this team needs a vet C and that doesn't change if we get Wiseman.


I'm fine with having Wiggins on the team, as I'm hoping Kerr can unlock his defensive potential. But, you know, anything can happen towards the trade deadline. Better start building up Wiggins' trade value and sell him high.

Backup PGs are hard to come by these days. If we get MCW, it'd be on a partial/non-guaranteed deal. low-risk, high reward if he can make of anything of his opportunity. If not, cut him. He should strictly be first-pass and defensive PG rather than scoring. I know he ain't no Livingston, but at least play within that role and be rewarded when opportunity to presents itself via mismatch, cutting to the rim, left wide open. And, if anything, I'm hoping Poole will make strides as a combo PG/SG; Showed flashes of his innate ability to find guys.

Both Looney and Smiley will be hard to trade because the other is too injury-prone and the other is too inexperienced/raw AF (Not sure why Myers was thinking.).

Don't think we'll get Turner, even with the #2. Indiana Fans want both him and Sabonais to stay and be on the floor at the same time.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#575 » by AdonalFoyle4Prez » Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:03 pm

Warriors Analyst wrote:
AdonalFoyle4Prez wrote:
Warriors Analyst wrote:
It would be insane to go into the season with only Wiseman/Looney/Green at the C. Green will miss games to preserve his body, Looney is no guarantee to play a full season, so you're banking on a 19 year old Wiseman to eat up the bulk of those C minutes. I also don't really like the idea of trading Chriss. Would rather trade Smiley if you're going to go the route of consolidating the seconds for an early second round pick. Also not really wild about MCW. Seen a lot of him in his Milwaukee days and I know that he has a better sense of his role than he used to, but he's a pretty terrible shooter and in this offseason plan, the best shooter acquired is Mo Harkless. Don't think this team gets out of the 2nd round and would probably have to go 6 games to get out of the first round.


This offseason, don't really think we're at the disposal to pick up free agents left and right with ease, or make a trade that benefits both sides. Tried to propose to others in other boards (Some trade scenarios that are extremely straight-forward, crazy/stupid, and even complex) and no agreement can be made. To make any big roster change, we have to trade Wiggins and the #2, and no one is biting on that.

I think it's time for us to settle with the reality of our decisions in handing out these contracts to put us at a disadvantage, salary-cap wise. Gotta roll with the punches and hope for the best.. Or, hope for a GM asinine enough to trade for Wiggins and #2. The league's teams are modeling/structuring their team like ours.. it's definitely a compliment.


I agree with you in that FA pickings will be slim, particularly at the wing. Wiggins trades are pretty difficult to make work because his value league wide is so low. I don't think we need big, big roster changes, but I also don't think it's responsible to have a center rotation that consists of a rookie, a 6'5 former DPOY crossing into his 30's, and a 6'9 guy with the body of someone in his late 30's. It just feels like the roster proposed here is only marginally better than our current one. Harkless is solid and I'd be fine with having him. But I don't think all that highly of MCW and there's a good chance that Chriss is a better player than Wiseman is next year, so this feels like waiving the white flag.

Myles Turner is a name that's been brought up a lot around here. I think he's probably the most gettable of all the names that have been thrown around and I think he makes the team a lot better. I don't think Indiana would do a Wiggins trade for him, but the #2 signed to their respective contract, Looney, and Poole works financially. I'd be a bit bummed to lose Looney if he ever comes back to form and I'm curious about Poole's future, so I'd be a bit bummed, but that trade probably gives us one of the better starting 5's in basketball.

If not Turner, I still think this team needs a vet C and that doesn't change if we get Wiseman.


If not MCW, I was eyeing Chicago's Tomas Satoransky (6'7" PG/SG). Could use him with the TPE to absorb his contract (2 years @ 10 mil)? We literally can't get a really good backup PG.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#576 » by TB » Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:30 pm

AdonalFoyle4Prez wrote:If we're still going the Wiseman route, I'm seeing something like this:

TRADE: Chriss + 48th pick for another team's early 2nd round pick and draft Paul Reed (Modern day 4 and 5, lanky put plays big. defensive workhorse.)
2020 51st pick: Abdoulaye N'Doye (6'7" PG/SG/SF from France, wingspan: 7'2", natural facilitator, shot 41% from 3)

MLE: Moe Harkless
Your 3 & D player. We need that defensive wing to play behind Wiggins and to defend 2 - 4.

TPE: Not sure.. Still stumped on how to go about utilizing this...

Partial / Non-Guarantee Contract: Michael Carter Williams
Not sure if this is to drive his value up, but these articles (A couple) seems convincing that I'd sign him up (Unless they do it first):
https://www.orlandopinstripedpost.com/2020/4/6/21206470/orlando-magic-michael-carter-williams
https://orlandomagicdaily.com/2020/09/24/2020-orlando-magic-player-evaluations-michael-carter-williams-found-a-home-with-orlando-magic/
https://www.nba.com/magic/nikola-vucevic-michael-carter-williams-hes-critical-player-have-our-team-20200311

Depth:
Curry/Poole/MCW
Thompson/Lee/N'Doye
Wiggins/Harkless/Tuscano
Green/Paschall/Reed
Wiseman/Looney/Smiley


Love the N'Doye pick in 2nd round. Him, Naji Marshall, and Nate Hinton are my favorite late 2nd options right now.

Also like Harkless as an MLE option. Might be the best we can do there, and he's really solid.

I personally wouldn't trade Chriss. And even if we did, i think he would net a 1st rounder in this draft. His numbers were REALLY good this year and he's only 23. And if a team offered a late 1st, i'd probably say no. If we went into the season with Wiseman/Chriss splitting all the center minutes, i'd be really happy.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#577 » by ILOVEIT » Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:43 pm

This cuts through it all....this guy from Forbs (beside crazy black eyes) has it down when it comes to assessing everything.

For example, did you all know that if the Warriors use the tax payer MLE it will cost the Warriors 30 Million to use it?

Anyway....take a listen....especially when it comes to who to draft and why.

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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#578 » by AdonalFoyle4Prez » Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:44 pm

TB wrote:
AdonalFoyle4Prez wrote:If we're still going the Wiseman route, I'm seeing something like this:

TRADE: Chriss + 48th pick for another team's early 2nd round pick and draft Paul Reed (Modern day 4 and 5, lanky put plays big. defensive workhorse.)
2020 51st pick: Abdoulaye N'Doye (6'7" PG/SG/SF from France, wingspan: 7'2", natural facilitator, shot 41% from 3)

MLE: Moe Harkless
Your 3 & D player. We need that defensive wing to play behind Wiggins and to defend 2 - 4.

TPE: Not sure.. Still stumped on how to go about utilizing this...

Partial / Non-Guarantee Contract: Michael Carter Williams
Not sure if this is to drive his value up, but these articles (A couple) seems convincing that I'd sign him up (Unless they do it first):
https://www.orlandopinstripedpost.com/2020/4/6/21206470/orlando-magic-michael-carter-williams
https://orlandomagicdaily.com/2020/09/24/2020-orlando-magic-player-evaluations-michael-carter-williams-found-a-home-with-orlando-magic/
https://www.nba.com/magic/nikola-vucevic-michael-carter-williams-hes-critical-player-have-our-team-20200311

Depth:
Curry/Poole/MCW
Thompson/Lee/N'Doye
Wiggins/Harkless/Tuscano
Green/Paschall/Reed
Wiseman/Looney/Smiley


Love the N'Doye pick in 2nd round. Him, Naji Marshall, and Nate Hinton are my favorite late 2nd options right now.

Also like Harkless as an MLE option. Might be the best we can do there, and he's really solid.

I personally wouldn't trade Chriss. And even if we did, i think he would net a 1st rounder in this draft. His numbers were REALLY good this year and he's only 23. And if a team offered a late 1st, i'd probably say no. If we went into the season with Wiseman/Chriss splitting all the center minutes, i'd be really happy.


Agreed. We'd be jam-logged at the 5, though. So, I'd say we should cut ties with Looney (Can't stay healthy) and/or Smiley to draft for a more serviceable and durable long, mobile 4.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#579 » by Onus » Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:48 pm

TB wrote:
AdonalFoyle4Prez wrote:If we're still going the Wiseman route, I'm seeing something like this:

TRADE: Chriss + 48th pick for another team's early 2nd round pick and draft Paul Reed (Modern day 4 and 5, lanky put plays big. defensive workhorse.)
2020 51st pick: Abdoulaye N'Doye (6'7" PG/SG/SF from France, wingspan: 7'2", natural facilitator, shot 41% from 3)

MLE: Moe Harkless
Your 3 & D player. We need that defensive wing to play behind Wiggins and to defend 2 - 4.

TPE: Not sure.. Still stumped on how to go about utilizing this...

Partial / Non-Guarantee Contract: Michael Carter Williams
Not sure if this is to drive his value up, but these articles (A couple) seems convincing that I'd sign him up (Unless they do it first):
https://www.orlandopinstripedpost.com/2020/4/6/21206470/orlando-magic-michael-carter-williams
https://orlandomagicdaily.com/2020/09/24/2020-orlando-magic-player-evaluations-michael-carter-williams-found-a-home-with-orlando-magic/
https://www.nba.com/magic/nikola-vucevic-michael-carter-williams-hes-critical-player-have-our-team-20200311

Depth:
Curry/Poole/MCW
Thompson/Lee/N'Doye
Wiggins/Harkless/Tuscano
Green/Paschall/Reed
Wiseman/Looney/Smiley


Love the N'Doye pick in 2nd round. Him, Naji Marshall, and Nate Hinton are my favorite late 2nd options right now.

Also like Harkless as an MLE option. Might be the best we can do there, and he's really solid.

I personally wouldn't trade Chriss. And even if we did, i think he would net a 1st rounder in this draft. His numbers were REALLY good this year and he's only 23. And if a team offered a late 1st, i'd probably say no. If we went into the season with Wiseman/Chriss splitting all the center minutes, i'd be really happy.


Love these 2nd rd options which is why drafting lamar stevens would be shocking. I think Naji can really be a solid defender that'll be able to guard 1-3 out of the gate. Nate I just love his energy and hustle.

We need a player that can guard 1-4 defensively on the bench, an aircraft carrier and a shooter on the bench. 3 positions from the #2, TPE, MLE, and 2 2nds. Bob you can do it.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#580 » by cdubbz » Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:53 pm

To stop Anthony Davis we need Wiseman + several bigs and wings for doubles. Dude is a beast in the paint.
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