2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 -- (8PM, Wed, Nov. 18, ESPN)

[BostonCouchGM]

He's not going to bust anywhere near as badly as Cole Anthony who might not even be in the league in 5 years

Cole Anthony is Dennis Smith, Jr. waiting to happen.

I think once DSJ find the right situation for him he'll turn into a very good pro. He needs to be an attacking PG that the offense goes through like Rose and Westbrook but he was never afforded that opportunity for the Mavs due to Luka and he's playing with other kids for a clueless organization in NY. I don't know when, but someday he'll land with a team with nothing to lose but to let him play and be the focal point, kinda like IT with us, and he'll be great. And nobody will see it coming.

Cole Anthony wishes he was DSJ. But I do really like his makeup and can see him staying in the league as a spot starter and backup for 10 years. He'll flash some too but I don't think he'll be a star or even long term starter. I still don't know why he was so highly touted by scouts.

[playa-hater]

Celtics are rumored to have met or interviewed with Grant Riller, Payton Pritchard and Tyrell Terry so far.

Sure looks like they are targeting a point guard with the #26 pick to me. Goodbye Brad Wanamaker!

They've also talked to Desmond Bane, Tillie etc. There is no way to know who they are targeting. But my informed opinion is thet will move up to grab an elite PG prospect...

when you say move up, from 14 to top 10 or 26+30 higher??

[playa-hater]

+1000 from me dude. S. Bey, Nesmith or Vassell. I just hope one of them is available at 14. I prefer S. Bey due to size, but we need a knock down 3 pt. shooter more than anything. Then get the big and back up point with the 26 and 30.

we agree with those 3, but we need a backup plan if all 3 are gone.. which is definitely possible.

Pat Williams or J smith as my 3th and 5th option.

I go precious than Williams over Smith. Precious just screams to me regardless will be special.

dude, Precious more than any player in this draft puzzles me. I can't get a grip on him.. It's like one day I am lovin the hell out of his game, then I backslide.. I would love to be there when he has a workout.. If I believe he can become a consistent outside shooting player, I have him in my top 5 talents in the draft. BUT there is such little game footage of him shooting, I don't know what to think.. For him I will trust Ainge and Stevens did their homework on him.

[playa-hater]

Celtics are rumored to have met or interviewed with Grant Riller, Payton Pritchard and Tyrell Terry so far.

Sure looks like they are targeting a point guard with the #26 pick to me. Goodbye Brad Wanamaker!

Pritchard could be Trae Young 2.0. No kidding. White privilege will have him dropping to the 2nd if these mocks have it right. If Danny drafts Pritchard late, and hits on the early picks, I will stop pointing out what a terrible drafter he's been. I know he's reading this so expect Pritchard to be a Celtic!

just went through some videos. I do like him.. But my only issue, same with Trae Young, is I don't like players who are not good on defense. (Trae may be the worst ever) In the regular season they will be fine, but making a deep playoff run will expose them. Kemba was totally destroyed on defense.. How much better, if at all is/will PR be??

I can see it now, Brad Stevens has PR and Kemba in the backcourt together with Smart as a 3 and Brown and Tatum at the 4 and 5 ..

[playa-hater]

meanwhile looking at the draft for Boston, if these 2 players were available at 26, who would you prefer?

Desmond Bane - 6'6 wing. potential elite shooter, who may be good on defense as well.

Tyler Bey - 6'7 wing. potential elite wing defender, who may be a good shooter..

speak now or forever hold your peace!!

[flintsky21]

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cool. bit of a FVV vibe to him,

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Could be the perfect Wanamaker replacement. I'd rather have a guy like him at the later picks than use the 14th pick on a PG.

[snowman]

meanwhile looking at the draft for Boston, if these 2 players were available at 26, who would you prefer?

Desmond Bane - 6'6 wing. potential elite shooter, who may be good on defense as well.

Tyler Bey - 6'7 wing. potential elite wing defender, who may be a good shooter..

speak now or forever hold your peace!!

I take Bane. I am so tired of MBA players that can't shoot. How many times do we need to see brick after brick, shot putted at the basket ? Brad's offense is designed for ball movement and 3 point shooting. All our wings need to be able to shoot the 3 at a good clip, at least 30 + % or move on.

[100proof]

He's not going to bust anywhere near as badly as Cole Anthony who might not even be in the league in 5 years

Cole Anthony is Dennis Smith, Jr. waiting to happen.

I think once DSJ find the right situation for him he'll turn into a very good pro. He needs to be an attacking PG that the offense goes through like Rose and Westbrook but he was never afforded that opportunity for the Mavs due to Luka and he's playing with other kids for a clueless organization in NY. I don't know when, but someday he'll land with a team with nothing to lose but to let him play and be the focal point, kinda like IT with us, and he'll be great. And nobody will see it coming.

Cole Anthony wishes he was DSJ. But I do really like his makeup and can see him staying in the league as a spot starter and backup for 10 years. He'll flash some too but I don't think he'll be a star or even long term starter. I still don't know why he was so highly touted by scouts.

Dsj would be good off the bench here. Scoring 6th man.

[31to6]

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cool. bit of a FVV vibe to him,

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Just me being a non-draft expert but I’d probably be happier with this guy at one of our late firsts than with trading up for Halliburton. Plays like Kyrie — against mostly **** competition. Looks like he puts a lot of time into his craft... I wonder what he thinks of Thanksgiving?

[SmartWentCrazy]

The more I watch Patrick Williams, the more I like him.

[Darth Celtic]

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cool. bit of a FVV vibe to him,

Watch on YouTube

Just me being a non-draft expert but I’d probably be happier with this guy at one of our late firsts than with trading up for Halliburton. Plays like Kyrie — against mostly **** competition. Looks like he puts a lot of time into his craft... I wonder what he thinks of Thanksgiving?

our top interview question for all draft prospects from now on going forward "what does government mean to you?"

[CelticsPride18]

The more I watch Patrick Williams, the more I like him.

I have a feeling that the Spurs will pick him up.

[SmartWentCrazy]

The more I watch Patrick Williams, the more I like him.

I have a feeling that the Spurs will pick him up.

Same, unfortunately

[31to6]

cool. bit of a FVV vibe to him,

Watch on YouTube

Just me being a non-draft expert but I’d probably be happier with this guy at one of our late firsts than with trading up for Halliburton. Plays like Kyrie — against mostly **** competition. Looks like he puts a lot of time into his craft... I wonder what he thinks of Thanksgiving?

our top interview question for all draft prospects from now on going forward "what does government mean to you?"

Deep dive on Riller, who put up Lillard/Curry like college offensive stats, and seems to be capable of passing and defending if developed properly: https://www.thestepien.com/2020/03/30/case-grant-riller/

[threrf23]

Deep dive on Riller, who put up Lillard/Curry like college offensive stats, and seems to be capable of passing and defending if developed properly: https://www.thestepien.com/2020/03/30/case-grant-riller/

Eh, he's 23, apparently has elite athleticism and quickness, and was playing low division ball.

Over the course of his collegiate career, Lillard was a better shooter by several percentage points, a little less TO prone, better rebounder, and was considered a sure thing lottery pick despite his resume. Steph was statistically a historically elite three point shooter and scorer in college relative to age and context, his rebounding and ability to rack up steals were also good omens.

Grant Riller is IMO statistically unimpressive, somewhat reminiscent of Marcus Thornton even, with the key exception that through four years of college he shot 59% inside the arc while scoring 23 pts per 40 (which compares favorably to Curry and Lillard as well). So that likely reflects his ability get to the hoop and convert, but that won't translate effortlessly in the NBA.

In that sense, he reminds me of Demetrius Jackson more than Steph or Lillard.

[captain green]

meanwhile looking at the draft for Boston, if these 2 players were available at 26, who would you prefer?

Desmond Bane - 6'6 wing. potential elite shooter, who may be good on defense as well.

Tyler Bey - 6'7 wing. potential elite wing defender, who may be a good shooter..

speak now or forever hold your peace!!

Going bane over t bey about 9 out 10 times the 1 tenth is dependent on who is drafted at 14 .
But to just out right answer it's bane over t.bey.

[BostonCouchGM]

Celtics are rumored to have met or interviewed with Grant Riller, Payton Pritchard and Tyrell Terry so far.

Sure looks like they are targeting a point guard with the #26 pick to me. Goodbye Brad Wanamaker!

Pritchard could be Trae Young 2.0. No kidding. White privilege will have him dropping to the 2nd if these mocks have it right. If Danny drafts Pritchard late, and hits on the early picks, I will stop pointing out what a terrible drafter he's been. I know he's reading this so expect Pritchard to be a Celtic!

just went through some videos. I do like him.. But my only issue, same with Trae Young, is I don't like players who are not good on defense. (Trae may be the worst ever) In the regular season they will be fine, but making a deep playoff run will expose them. Kemba was totally destroyed on defense.. How much better, if at all is/will PR be??

I can see it now, Brad Stevens has PR and Kemba in the backcourt together with Smart as a 3 and Brown and Tatum at the 4 and 5 ..

very few players let alone point guards play defense any longer. IT, Kemba, Kyrie, Murray, Dragic, etc all got their teams far in the playoffs. Pritchard clearly is not ever going to be a good defender. But that could be mitigated by Smart's presence on the 2nd unit. And then if Pritchard works out he takes over for Kemba either by allowing us to move him or just when his contract runs out down the road. Backup PG is one of our major needs. If we're getting Pricthard in the 2nd I think we'd all be celebrating and excited when he came into games and having such a talented backup available when Kemba inevitably gets injured which should happen as he approaches 30 y/o with a bum knee.

[snowman]

Shooting, shooting, shooting is what we need.

14) Saddiq Bey
26) Desmond Bane
30) Daniel Oturu
47) Grant Riller
use our mle on a decent back up point like Jeff Teague

Let Wannamaker and Green walk, pass on Semi's option, Kanter opt out and let Poirier go back to France. 5 roster spaces, 4 new BETTER players, plus bring up Waters from 2 way.

Kemba, Brown, Hayward, Tatum, Theis
Teague, Smart, Langford, G. Will, Timelord
Waters, Edwards, Desmond Bane, Saddiq Bey, Daniel Oturu.

Fall and Riller as 2 ways.

[BostonCouchGM]

"meanwhile looking at the draft for Boston, if these 2 players were available at 26, who would you prefer?

Desmond Bane - 6'6 wing. potential elite shooter, who may be good on defense as well.

Tyler Bey - 6'7 wing. potential elite wing defender, who may be a good shooter..

speak now or forever hold your peace!!"

Bane isn't even on my radar in the first. He's got negative wingspan (less than his height). I do like his hustle and athleticism though. If he and Grant Williams were both sitting there in the early-mid 2nd I'd take Bane over Williams but that's more of an indictment on Williams than it is an endorsement of Bane. If taking Bane in the 2nd means we can get rid of one of the many scrubs on our bench, I'm all for it. But so many players have to be off the board for me to consider it and it does depend on who we take with the earlier picks.

Bey is the best "Bey" in this draft. I really want him with one of our late 1sts. He's the type of guy you should round out your roster with when you already have stars...not Langford, Edwards, and Williams.

[BostonCouchGM]

Shooting, shooting, shooting is what we need.

14) Saddiq Bey
26) Desmond Bane
30) Daniel Oturu
47) Grant Riller
use our mle on a decent back up point like Jeff Teague

Let Wannamaker and Green walk, pass on Semi's option, Kanter opt out and let Poirier go back to France. 5 roster spaces, 4 new BETTER players, plus bring up Waters from 2 way.

Kemba, Brown, Hayward, Tatum, Theis
Teague, Smart, Langford, G. Will, Timelord
Waters, Edwards, Desmond Bane, Saddiq Bey, Daniel Oturu.

Fall and Riller as 2 ways.

that would be a disastrous draft rivaling 2019 and 2016 for Danny. I don't think we'd ever recover and I guarantee it'd mean we would waste Tatum and Brown's primes and would even jeopardize our ability to retain Tatum. I honestly couldn't come up with a worse scenario than that. Throwing darts at a board blind-folded would be better. No joking.