The Lebron '20 Thread (Pt. 8)

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Re: The Lebron '20 Thread (Pt. 8) 

Post#1661 » by Mos_Heat » Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:15 am

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Heej wrote:Lol rewatching the game and this f***er Kuzma cost LeBron a 30.0ppg average with that idiotic lane violation on his and-1 near the end of the 3rd. Goddamn son just trade this guy


You went 180 in like 2 posts lol

Tbh out of the young core, kuz rn might be the best for a championship team. Ingrams D been trash this year, zo is too exploitable offensively at times, hart act mightve been better but

Kuz has slowly been turning into a great wing defender although he makes a 0 iq foul here and there. Hes clearly a talented scorer, if he could JUUUUST get that three point jumper passable hed be such a good piece. He mighr end up as an upper tier wing defender which we desperately need, he just reaaaally should only focus on his jumper this offseason

Ingram was decent on defense in his last season in LA, so I would guess his regretion was caused by coaching/scheme. He's definetly not worse than Kuzma
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Re: The Lebron '20 Thread (Pt. 8) 

Post#1662 » by Mos_Heat » Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:17 am

The High Cyde wrote:Barring injury I think they retool a bit and repeat.

I don’t really see anyone other than the Nuggets and or maybe the Clippers, who still are without an identity, who can legit give them problems.

I think they take anyone on from the East, besting AD and old man Bron 4 out of 7 will take extreme talent and luck too, there I see the Nets and maybe Boston and of course the Heat as posing some problems, but still not confident in any of them.

During the season there will be chatter that LeBron has lost another step but it won’t matter come playoffs, he’s just too good.

Warriors?
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Post#1663 » by Sublime187 » Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:33 am

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LeBron himself said this?
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Re: The Lebron '20 Thread (Pt. 8) 

Post#1664 » by ThePersianFreak » Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:47 am

Sublime187 wrote:
MisterHibachi wrote:
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LeBron himself said this?


Yup, I think he was being interviewed by NBA TV crew after game 6.
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Re: The Lebron '20 Thread (Pt. 8) 

Post#1665 » by KTM_2813 » Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:48 pm

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The High Cyde wrote:Barring injury I think they retool a bit and repeat.

I don’t really see anyone other than the Nuggets and or maybe the Clippers, who still are without an identity, who can legit give them problems.

I think they take anyone on from the East, besting AD and old man Bron 4 out of 7 will take extreme talent and luck too, there I see the Nets and maybe Boston and of course the Heat as posing some problems, but still not confident in any of them.

During the season there will be chatter that LeBron has lost another step but it won’t matter come playoffs, he’s just too good.

Warriors?


Am I crazy for thinking the Lakers match up quite well with the Warriors? I don't know that Golden State has anyone who can stop Davis, but the Lakers have the horses to do a half decent job on Steph and Klay (Bradley, Green, KCP) while also being able to employ an effective switching defense.
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Re: The Lebron '20 Thread (Pt. 8) 

Post#1666 » by Homer38 » Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:50 pm

The warriors don't scare me....at least right now
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Re: The Lebron '20 Thread (Pt. 8) 

Post#1667 » by NbaAllDay » Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:58 pm

Am I right in saying that since 2011 Finals, every time Lebron was expected to win a playoff series he never lost? And he won a few series were people didnt expect him to win either. Obviously 16 Finals being the top. 18 Raptors etc too.

That's something that I think goes under the radar as far as consistency goes. It's easy to assume you'd win the series you are favored in, but we see how often there are upsets. To be that focused ever single series and never let a team from your conference stop you for 10 years is just insanity. Only thing that stopped that was an injury.
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Re: The Lebron '20 Thread (Pt. 8) 

Post#1668 » by DatAsh » Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:05 pm

This year actually improved my opinion of AD far more than it did Lebron. I already had Lebron as my GOAT, and best player in the league. This year just reaffirmed those truths. AD was in my top 10, but not top 5, and now he's the clear #2 in the league in my eyes. LA basically traded away their whole team just to get AD, and it still catapulted them from a lottery team to the clear best team in the league(by a good margin). It's not like they traded trash to get him, either. Ingram is a legit scorer(as he showed this year), Lonzo is a great defender and facilitator, etc.
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Post#1669 » by PistolPeteJR » Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:24 pm

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Re: The Lebron '20 Thread (Pt. 8) 

Post#1670 » by Mos_Heat » Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:28 pm

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The High Cyde wrote:Barring injury I think they retool a bit and repeat.

I don’t really see anyone other than the Nuggets and or maybe the Clippers, who still are without an identity, who can legit give them problems.

I think they take anyone on from the East, besting AD and old man Bron 4 out of 7 will take extreme talent and luck too, there I see the Nets and maybe Boston and of course the Heat as posing some problems, but still not confident in any of them.

During the season there will be chatter that LeBron has lost another step but it won’t matter come playoffs, he’s just too good.

Warriors?


Am I crazy for thinking the Lakers match up quite well with the Warriors? I don't know that Golden State has anyone who can stop Davis, but the Lakers have the horses to do a half decent job on Steph and Klay (Bradley, Green, KCP) while also being able to employ an effective switching defense.

Warriors have multiple picks and 17mil trade exception, their roster is not complete
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Re: The Lebron '20 Thread (Pt. 8) 

Post#1671 » by PistolPeteJR » Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:36 pm

McBubbles wrote:Weird thing is I'm not hyped at all. I think all my energy went into expecting them to win Game 5 in a story book fashion. 5-5-5-5, Black Mamba Jerseys, 40pt game from LeBron, etc. When the Lakers lost I was **** pissed.

But now they've won I'm like "meh". Hopefully the euphoria hits me later haha.

4th ring and 4th Finals MVP for Lebron though, now a Lakers great. He deserved this after the soul crushing gauntlet that was the 2015-2018 Warriors. Woop woop. Keep the memes comin Thanos.


This is exactly how I felt lol. I completely understand you.
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Post#1672 » by Homer38 » Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:45 pm

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Re: The Lebron '20 Thread (Pt. 8) 

Post#1673 » by PistolPeteJR » Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:12 pm

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Let's be real the Clippers were overrated and simply put, Kawhi is just not on Lebron's level and with evenly matched team I'm sure Bron would just be the difference. Plus Clippers missing a playmaker is just not gonna cut it and that was a concern for them all year long.

I disagree, I think Kawhi was probably the only guy who could play Lebron straight up or play him to a standstill or even play better than him. On the season when head to head he showed it. He even showed it in prior seasons. Wish we got to see though. To me that was the biggest disappointment of the season that we didn't get to see that matchup in the playoffs.


When did Kawhi show it (and if you're really going to reply with 2014 please think twice before you reply)? This was the first time in his career where his team needed him to be that offensive floor general on the floor and he can't do that and that's what puts LeBron in a different tier. RS games don't show much. Lakers would have rolled the Clipppers in 5 especially with AD running circles around PG as the 2nd guy on the team.


This, this, and this man. I've been saying this since Kawhi's '19 playoff run where people were crowning him over LeBron. He's proven that he can play well and lead in certain regards on the court with terrific supporting casts, but that's about it. This Clippers run was an epic fail, and there are no excuses for that.
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Re: The Lebron '20 Thread (Pt. 8) 

Post#1674 » by Heej » Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:13 pm

Revenge szn completed!!!!! Yasss king I love ittttttttt

Also f*** the Warriors. Can't wait to see Bron do them over the years like he's done the Celtics. I hope he tortures them with second round knockouts for years to come.
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Re: The Lebron '20 Thread (Pt. 8) 

Post#1675 » by PistolPeteJR » Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:13 pm

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Lmao really? I'm legit having a very hard time believing this.
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Re: The Lebron '20 Thread (Pt. 8) 

Post#1676 » by MyUniBroDavis » Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:16 pm

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MyUniBroDavis wrote:
Heej wrote:Lol rewatching the game and this f***er Kuzma cost LeBron a 30.0ppg average with that idiotic lane violation on his and-1 near the end of the 3rd. Goddamn son just trade this guy


You went 180 in like 2 posts lol

Tbh out of the young core, kuz rn might be the best for a championship team. Ingrams D been trash this year, zo is too exploitable offensively at times, hart act mightve been better but

Kuz has slowly been turning into a great wing defender although he makes a 0 iq foul here and there. Hes clearly a talented scorer, if he could JUUUUST get that three point jumper passable hed be such a good piece. He mighr end up as an upper tier wing defender which we desperately need, he just reaaaally should only focus on his jumper this offseason

Ingram was decent on defense in his last season in LA, so I would guess his regretion was caused by coaching/scheme. He's definetly not worse than Kuzma


Kuz makes 0 iq defense plays but hes a pretty good defender by now
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Re: The Lebron '20 Thread (Pt. 8) 

Post#1677 » by O_6 » Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:54 pm

A ring is a ring, history will see this as #4 and that's all that really matters in the long run. But is anyone else disappointed that we did not get to see Lakers vs. Clippers? That was the matchup we were promised all season long, it felt inevitable. Everyone had the Clippers as a mortal lock to make the WCF. Kawhi vs. LeBron in a Finals MVP showdown for the crown of a Conference and a city, that's what I was salivating over all year.

But then the Clippers choke and go and blow a 3-1 lead to the Nuggets, and we never get that matchup. The Nuggets were a worthy WCF team, their 2.35 SRS seriously underrates the team they were at the end of the bubble. Jamal Murray was obviously on a completely different level in the bubble than throughout the entire year, the Nuggets were legit and the Lakers taking care of them in 5 was an impressive series win.

But missing out on Kawhi vs. LeBron this year stinks. I think LeBron proved in these playoffs that he still has that extra gear that makes him the best player in the world, but proving that against Kawhi and the Clippers would've felt more significant due to the season long narrative. Who knows how that matchup would've played out, I'm thinking AD vs. Harrell/Zubac would've been the deciding matchup but we'll never know.

Besides all the records that LeBron has his sights on, I think there are 3 teams that would be important for him to defeat in the playoffs.

- Beating Curry/Klay/Draymond Warriors
- Beating Durant/Irving Nets
- Beating Kawhi/George Clippers

I think beating the Warriors would mean the most, for the reasons others have mentioned. The Warriors Dynasty was the greatest rival that LeBron has ever had, and it all started in 2015 with Curry taking the league by storm. You just know that LeBron is extremely happy about the fact that he now has one more ring than Steph and the Warriors' core, and is now the player with the most active rings for the first time in his career. But I think he desperately wants a series against the Warriors in the playoffs and will go berserk and step on their throats to put an exclamation point in the last chapter of their rivalry.

Durant and Irving are obviously players who will be linked to LeBron forever. KD has solidified himself as the greatest individual rival that LeBron has faced in his career, one of the greatest scorers of all-time and a guy who a minority believe is better than LeBron at this point in their careers. Irving was LeBron's sidekick in Cleveland and helped him win that ring in '16. But their relationship is clearly "interesting" since Kyrie is such a "unique" guy. If KD and Kyrie prove to be healthy and still in their prime, I think that would be an important team for LeBron to defeat in a Finals.

And Kawhi/Clippers for the same reasons that were hyped all year. Kawhi is still an elite two way player and one of the few who can challenge LeBron. He also won a Finals MVP for his performance against LeBron. Beating the Clippers in a series would feel sweeter than merely outlasting them in the playoffs as they did this year.

I think the only thing missing from this ring was beating a team like that. Beating the Miami Heat and Pat Riley was meaningful and really emphasized how unique LeBron is historically for winning with different organizations, but it wasn't the same as beating one of the teams I mentioned above. I hope we get to see LeBron/AD vs. at least one of those teams in the playoffs next year.
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Post#1678 » by Sublime187 » Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:57 pm

I couldn't even watch the highlights of game 5. Was getting very nervous and just avoided basketball videos until Sunday. Thankfully they came through or it would have been a long off season..
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Re: The Lebron '20 Thread (Pt. 8) 

Post#1679 » by Heej » Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:00 pm

O_6 wrote:A ring is a ring, history will see this as #4 and that's all that really matters in the long run. But is anyone else disappointed that we did not get to see Lakers vs. Clippers? That was the matchup we were promised all season long, it felt inevitable. Everyone had the Clippers as a mortal lock to make the WCF. Kawhi vs. LeBron in a Finals MVP showdown for the crown of a Conference and a city, that's what I was salivating over all year.

But then the Clippers choke and go and blow a 3-1 lead to the Nuggets, and we never get that matchup. The Nuggets were a worthy WCF team, their 2.35 SRS seriously underrates the team they were at the end of the bubble. Jamal Murray was obviously on a completely different level in the bubble than throughout the entire year, the Nuggets were legit and the Lakers taking care of them in 5 was an impressive series win.

But missing out on Kawhi vs. LeBron this year stinks. I think LeBron proved in these playoffs that he still has that extra gear that makes him the best player in the world, but proving that against Kawhi and the Clippers would've felt more significant due to the season long narrative. Who knows how that matchup would've played out, I'm thinking AD vs. Harrell/Zubac would've been the deciding matchup but we'll never know.

Besides all the records that LeBron has his sights on, I think there are 3 teams that would be important for him to defeat in the playoffs.

- Beating Curry/Klay/Draymond Warriors
- Beating Durant/Irving Nets
- Beating Kawhi/George Clippers

I think beating the Warriors would mean the most, for the reasons others have mentioned. The Warriors Dynasty was the greatest rival that LeBron has ever had, and it all started in 2015 with Curry taking the league by storm. You just know that LeBron is extremely happy about the fact that he now has one more ring than Steph and the Warriors' core, and is now the player with the most active rings for the first time in his career. But I think he desperately wants a series against the Warriors in the playoffs and will go berserk and step on their throats to put an exclamation point in the last chapter of their rivalry.

Durant and Irving are obviously players who will be linked to LeBron forever. KD has solidified himself as the greatest individual rival that LeBron has faced in his career, one of the greatest scorers of all-time and a guy who a minority believe is better than LeBron at this point in their careers. Irving was LeBron's sidekick in Cleveland and helped him win that ring in '16. But their relationship is clearly "interesting" since Kyrie is such a "unique" guy. If KD and Kyrie prove to be healthy and still in their prime, I think that would be an important team for LeBron to defeat in a Finals.

And Kawhi/Clippers for the same reasons that were hyped all year. Kawhi is still an elite two way player and one of the few who can challenge LeBron. He also won a Finals MVP for his performance against LeBron. Beating the Clippers in a series would feel sweeter than merely outlasting them in the playoffs as they did this year.

I think the only thing missing from this ring was beating a team like that. Beating the Miami Heat and Pat Riley was meaningful and really emphasized how unique LeBron is historically for winning with different organizations, but it wasn't the same as beating one of the teams I mentioned above. I hope we get to see LeBron/AD vs. at least one of those teams in the playoffs next year.

I think you need to add the Celtics to your list my guy. It would be absolute must watch TV if the Lakers and Celtics duke it out next year for #18. That's the type of stuff that cements a GOAT legacy
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Re: The Lebron '20 Thread (Pt. 8) 

Post#1680 » by Homer38 » Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:04 pm

When the free agency start?

Next week?

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