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Ben Simmons for the No. 1 Pick?

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Would you trade the No. 1 pick, Culver, Johnson, Spellman, and Evans for Ben Simmons?

Yes, in heart beat. All NBA defender and 3rd star to pair with KAT & DLo
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No, giving too much and Simmons can't shoot
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Re: Ben Simmons for the No. 1 Pick? 

Post#181 » by Killboard » Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:04 pm

UnFadeable21 wrote:
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A replacement for Paul in 2 seasons or they could go Anthony Edwards.


Yes, get a better fit for Embiid now and get a high upside player with 9 years of control on a moderate contract. Still think they could send the 1st and Horford to OKC and clean up the financial mess they made.


Zero chance Okc take Horford’s 3 years 81 million for only a 1st. Kevin OConner says Okc doesn’t want bad money and maximum flexibility for 2021.


Maybe Philadelphia has to send more picks/assets. If I was OKC I would take bad money/assets a year or two and reload as hard as I can to maximize my own picks.
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Re: Ben Simmons for the No. 1 Pick? 

Post#182 » by NattaNerNutta » Wed Oct 28, 2020 6:24 pm

Did we just happen to drift into the perfect storm get Ben Simmons?

First there was chatter about Doc possibly wanting to move up to get Melo. And now with Morey signing on as Philly's new GM this seems like an ideal line of communication for the Wolves and 76er's to work out a deal.

I honestly cant think of a better GM to be hired by Philly to facilitate something like this.
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Re: Ben Simmons for the No. 1 Pick? 

Post#183 » by Howard Cosell » Wed Oct 28, 2020 6:51 pm

Yes.

The answer is absolutely yes.
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Re: Ben Simmons for the No. 1 Pick? 

Post#184 » by Worm Guts » Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:01 pm

NattaNerNutta wrote:Did we just happen to drift into the perfect storm get Ben Simmons?

First there was chatter about Doc possibly wanting to move up to get Melo. And now with Morey signing on as Philly's new GM this seems like an ideal line of communication for the Wolves and 76er's to work out a deal.

I honestly cant think of a better GM to be hired by Philly to facilitate something like this.


I am more inclined to think Morey is the type of GM that would keep Simmons. Morey was always looking for ways to acquire superstars.
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Re: Ben Simmons for the No. 1 Pick? 

Post#185 » by jpatrick » Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:11 pm

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NattaNerNutta wrote:Did we just happen to drift into the perfect storm get Ben Simmons?

First there was chatter about Doc possibly wanting to move up to get Melo. And now with Morey signing on as Philly's new GM this seems like an ideal line of communication for the Wolves and 76er's to work out a deal.

I honestly cant think of a better GM to be hired by Philly to facilitate something like this.


I am more inclined to think Morey is the type of GM that would keep Simmons. Morey was always looking for ways to acquire superstars.


Interesting hire. They just gave Elton Brand some assurances he’d be in charge. I guess not.

I too think this makes them less likely to trade Simmons, as Morey is a star acquisition guy. However, he is also an analytics guy and the 76ers clunky offense has no spacing or three point shooting, which is a big analytic no-no.
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Re: Ben Simmons for the No. 1 Pick? 

Post#186 » by Klomp » Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:14 pm

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NattaNerNutta wrote:Did we just happen to drift into the perfect storm get Ben Simmons?

First there was chatter about Doc possibly wanting to move up to get Melo. And now with Morey signing on as Philly's new GM this seems like an ideal line of communication for the Wolves and 76er's to work out a deal.

I honestly cant think of a better GM to be hired by Philly to facilitate something like this.


I am more inclined to think Morey is the type of GM that would keep Simmons. Morey was always looking for ways to acquire superstars.

All depends on how committed he is to the small-ball and 3-point launching. Personally, I don't think Simmons is a deterrent for Morey. It's not like Simmons is choosing long 2s over 3s, that's where the issue would come I think. But yes, I also think there's an easy line of communication.
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Re: Ben Simmons for the No. 1 Pick? 

Post#187 » by Wolveswin » Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:29 pm

What if Philly called on Towns for Embiid?

Idea is they want shooting and more shooting. Build around Simmons.
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Re: Ben Simmons for the No. 1 Pick? 

Post#188 » by DaMplsKid » Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:34 pm

Wolveswin wrote:What if Philly called on Towns for Embiid?

Idea is they want shooting and more shooting. Build around Simmons.


I would laugh and hang up. Embiid cant stay health and is very inconstant game to game.
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Re: Ben Simmons for the No. 1 Pick? 

Post#189 » by NattaNerNutta » Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:42 pm

Wolveswin wrote:What if Philly called on Towns for Embiid?

Idea is they want shooting and more shooting. Build around Simmons.


Absolutely not. Embiid's inability to stay healthy is a big red flag for me. Big men never age well when it comes to constant nagging injuries. Besides the whole thing in Minnesota is building around the best buds D-Lo and Kat, not break them up.

If any deal is to be made I think it would be all about getting Simmons. His playstyle fits perfectly with D-Lo and Kat, while also being the perfect Defensive plug for the team's issues on that end of the court.

Unlike Philly, Minnesota's make up is great for Simmons, especially if we resign Beasley. We will have three great shooters to space the floor, leaving the interior open for a slashing Simmons and/or Culver or Okogie (which ever is on the team after a potential trade.

I'm not saying a deal will go down, only that if one were to happen it would be a much easier to navigate scenario with Morey being so closely connected with Rosas.
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Re: Ben Simmons for the No. 1 Pick? 

Post#190 » by DaMplsKid » Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:49 pm

Klomp wrote:All depends on how committed he is to the small-ball and 3-point launching. Personally, I don't think Simmons is a deterrent for Morey. It's not like Simmons is choosing long 2s over 3s, that's where the issue would come I think. But yes, I also think there's an easy line of communication.


Well with Embiid/Halford he can't go small ball without making some moves. I think Doc River's style of play is going to matter the most as to how the team is constructed. Dantoni was the small ball 3 point shooting I don't see Doc going this route. I think him going there doesn't hurt us but also might not help us. It will come down to how Doc feels he wants the roster.
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Re: Ben Simmons for the No. 1 Pick? 

Post#191 » by Klomp » Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:50 pm

NattaNerNutta wrote:
Wolveswin wrote:What if Philly called on Towns for Embiid?

Idea is they want shooting and more shooting. Build around Simmons.


Absolutely not. Embiid's inability to stay healthy is a big red flag for me. Big men never age well when it comes to constant nagging injuries. Besides the whole thing in Minnesota is building around the best buds D-Lo and Kat, not break them up.

If any deal is to be made I think it would be all about getting Simmons. His playstyle fits perfectly with D-Lo and Kat, while also being the perfect Defensive plug for the team's issues on that end of the court.

Unlike Philly, Minnesota's make up is great for Simmons, especially if we resign Beasley. We will have three great shooters to space the floor, leaving the interior open for a slashing Simmons and/or Culver or Okogie (which ever is on the team after a potential trade.

I'm not saying a deal will go down, only that if one were to happen it would be a much easier to navigate scenario with Morey being so closely connected with Rosas.

Not after reading this.

As concerns arise with NBA players deciding the best way to go forward with a return to play, an important question about Joel Embiid’s contract has reportedly been answered.

The current agreed upon format features eight “seeding games” before the playoffs begin. The NBA is prorating performance bonuses and incentives using March 11 as the end date of the regular season, per ESPN’s Adrian Wojnarowski. That means the eight additional seeding games in Orlando are not part of the formula.

How does this affect Embiid?

Well, the All-Star center signed a five-year, $148 million extension in 2017 that had financial protections for the Sixers in case Embiid suffered a career-ending injury. According to Wojnarowski, Embiid needed to play 1,650 minutes this season in order to guarantee the remainder of his deal. With 1,329 minutes played this season, Embiid has surpassed the prorated number.


https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/76ers/joel-embiid-contract-guaranteed-sixers-nba-season-restart

I'd trade for Simmons or Harris before Embiid
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Re: Ben Simmons for the No. 1 Pick? 

Post#192 » by Rookie-Mistake » Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:58 pm

Get it done. Anyone is traceable imo.

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Re: Ben Simmons for the No. 1 Pick? 

Post#193 » by Baseline81 » Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:39 pm

Still unlikely, but maybe Morey goes after Harden, assuming. Houston rebuilds.

Potential three-team trade:
- Philadelphia trades Simmons for Harden
- Minnesota receives Simmons for 2020 Minnesota first round pick (1), 2020 Brooklyn pick (17) and 2023 Minnesota first round pick (lottery protected)
- Houston trades Harden for 2020 Minnesota first round pick (1), 2020 Brooklyn pick (17) and 2023 Minnesota first round pick (lottery protected)

Someone else can build upon this to match salaries...
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Post#194 » by Klomp » Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:43 pm

I get the feeling this is going to be a crazy offseason
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Re: Ben Simmons for the No. 1 Pick? 

Post#195 » by Klomp » Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:47 pm

Obviously many more moving parts, but thoughts on this framework?

MIN Out: No. 1
MIN In: Simmons

PHI Out: Embiid, Simmons
PHI In: George, No. 1

LAC Out: George
LAC In: Embiid
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Re: Ben Simmons for the No. 1 Pick? 

Post#196 » by moonpie » Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:47 pm

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Post#197 » by Baseline81 » Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:52 pm

Klomp wrote:Obviously many more moving parts, but thoughts on this framework?

MIN Out: No. 1
MIN In: Simmons

PHI Out: Embiid, Simmons
PHI In: George, No. 1

LAC Out: George
LAC In: Embiid

Certainly cannot see Morey trading both. Doc would question why he even decided to take the coaching job.
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Re: Ben Simmons for the No. 1 Pick? 

Post#198 » by K4P » Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:33 am

Wolves would have to give up literally everything outside of KAT and DLO to even have a shot at Simmons lol
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Post#199 » by Dewey » Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:57 am

K4P wrote:Wolves would have to give up literally everything outside of KAT and DLO to even have a shot at Simmons lol

Huh?
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Post#200 » by Jedzz » Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:49 am

Worm Guts wrote:
NattaNerNutta wrote:Did we just happen to drift into the perfect storm get Ben Simmons?

First there was chatter about Doc possibly wanting to move up to get Melo. And now with Morey signing on as Philly's new GM this seems like an ideal line of communication for the Wolves and 76er's to work out a deal.

I honestly cant think of a better GM to be hired by Philly to facilitate something like this.


I am more inclined to think Morey is the type of GM that would keep Simmons. Morey was always looking for ways to acquire superstars.
But one that can't shoot 3s at all? This is the one hiccup that has me thinking neither team sees a fit with him. At least outside of a Towns/Simmons hanging out after the game fit.

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