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Post#1241 » by DOT » Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:08 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:I do think what Hoffa is doing is pretty childish. He’s also basically doing team’s homework for them. I’d be mad if I had to resign my free agents or had a bunch of cap space wanting to make a big splash in free agency. If a GM irl did this they would get fined for tampering and forced to forfeit draft picks.

I mean, clearly his only goal is to bid guys he doesn't even want up to artificially inflate their salaries.
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Post#1242 » by 3toheadmelo » Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:12 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:I do think what Hoffa is doing is pretty childish. He’s also basically doing team’s homework for them. I’d be mad if I had to resign my free agents or had a bunch of cap space wanting to make a big splash in free agency. If a GM irl did this they would get fined for tampering and forced to forfeit draft picks.


its not tampering since these are all free agents, when Kawhi was a free agent the whole league was talking about where he would end up last off-season

and yes i maybe saving teams a bit of homework, but some of you have said none of what i say is factual or realistic anyways so why does it bother you so much

There’s no GM putting out player profiles for free agents to the public. You’re just doing this for your own selfish reasons instead of adding solid commentary to the game. This speaks a lot about your character.

If you had a bunch of pending free agents to resign this off-season, I guarantee you you wouldn’t be doing this. But carry on.

There’s a reason why this wasn’t even allowed in previous BATs.
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Post#1243 » by 2010 » Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:13 pm

bringbackhoffa wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:I do think what Hoffa is doing is pretty childish. He’s also basically doing team’s homework for them. I’d be mad if I had to resign my free agents or had a bunch of cap space wanting to make a big splash in free agency. If a GM irl did this they would get fined for tampering and forced to forfeit draft picks.


its not tampering since these are all free agents, when Kawhi was a free agent the whole league was talking about where he would end up last off-season

and yes i maybe saving teams a bit of homework, but some of you have said none of what i say is factual or realistic anyways so why does it bother you so much


You were tampering before free agency officially opened. Also, in the NBA the media and fans were talking (third parties). GMs don't openly offer consultation services to other GMs in an effort to weaken their direct competition. You are bush league. Even your character is bush with wishing injuries on GMs players who are successful in building better teams than you legitimately. And without crossing boundaries.
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Post#1244 » by 2010 » Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:14 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:I do think what Hoffa is doing is pretty childish. He’s also basically doing team’s homework for them. I’d be mad if I had to resign my free agents or had a bunch of cap space wanting to make a big splash in free agency. If a GM irl did this they would get fined for tampering and forced to forfeit draft picks.

I mean, clearly his only goal is to bid guys he doesn't even want up to artificially inflate their salaries.


Which is market manipulation.
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Post#1245 » by NewEra » Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:21 pm

This guy NewEra already has his rotation and minutes written out for opening day. No cap. Talk about being confident smh. He better hope he can secure his targets, because what he's doing is a major gamble. We're not sure if LMA is a part of that rotation, but when informed it was predicted the 35 yr old gets $200 over multiple years, NewEra could only laugh.
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Post#1246 » by bringbackhoffa » Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:23 pm

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Post#1247 » by DOT » Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:24 pm

2010 wrote:
K-DOT wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:I do think what Hoffa is doing is pretty childish. He’s also basically doing team’s homework for them. I’d be mad if I had to resign my free agents or had a bunch of cap space wanting to make a big splash in free agency. If a GM irl did this they would get fined for tampering and forced to forfeit draft picks.

I mean, clearly his only goal is to bid guys he doesn't even want up to artificially inflate their salaries.


Which is market manipulation.

Only if he's operating in bad faith, which he is

Teams do offer certain players well more than they're worth, but usually they genuinely do want those guys at that price(for better or worse), and would be willing to pay it. Off the top of my head in the last few years, our very own Tim Hardaway Jr got one of these contracts, Allen Crabbe's offer sheet from the Nets, and Kanter from the Blazers, the last two of which were matched by their original teams

The main goal of those offers was to sign those players, not to screw with other teams like hoffa is doing and has been doing.
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Post#1248 » by bringbackhoffa » Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:26 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
bringbackhoffa wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:I do think what Hoffa is doing is pretty childish. He’s also basically doing team’s homework for them. I’d be mad if I had to resign my free agents or had a bunch of cap space wanting to make a big splash in free agency. If a GM irl did this they would get fined for tampering and forced to forfeit draft picks.


its not tampering since these are all free agents, when Kawhi was a free agent the whole league was talking about where he would end up last off-season

and yes i maybe saving teams a bit of homework, but some of you have said none of what i say is factual or realistic anyways so why does it bother you so much

There’s no GM putting out player profiles for free agents to the public. You’re just doing this for your own selfish reasons instead of adding solid commentary to the game. This speaks a lot about your character.

If you had a bunch of pending free agents to resign this off-season, I guarantee you you wouldn’t be doing this. But carry on.

There’s a reason why this wasn’t even allowed in previous BATs.


i dont care i did a player profile on my own free agent, and did all this knowing i have the biggest free agent next off-season. there was a long lull this off-season which lend its hand to doing this. I stated right of the bat these profiles would have certain biases.
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Post#1249 » by bringbackhoffa » Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:28 pm

K-DOT wrote:
2010 wrote:
K-DOT wrote:I mean, clearly his only goal is to bid guys he doesn't even want up to artificially inflate their salaries.


Which is market manipulation.

Only if he's operating in bad faith, which he is

Teams do offer certain players well more than they're worth, but usually they genuinely do want those guys at that price(for better or worse), and would be willing to pay it. Off the top of my head in the last few years, our very own Tim Hardaway Jr got one of these contracts, Allen Crabbe's offer sheet from the Nets, and Kanter from the Blazers, the last two of which were matched by their original teams

The main goal of those offers was to sign those players, not to screw with other teams like hoffa is doing and has been doing.


the thing is you do not have to offer the amounts im predicting... you could just let me hold the bag if i submitted an above market value offer. Also the Steve Nash free agency which the Knicks and Raps were bidding on, the Raptors submitted a massive offer sheet to landry fields even though they did not want him but they wanted to handicap the Knicks cap space so they could not pursue Nash (raps were unsuccessful when Knicks did not match). this happens in real life too
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Post#1250 » by bringbackhoffa » Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:34 pm

NewEra wrote:This guy NewEra already has his rotation and minutes written out for opening day. No cap. Talk about being confident smh. He better hope he can secure his targets, because what he's doing is a major gamble. We're not sure if LMA is a part of that rotation, but when informed it was predicted the 35 yr old gets $200 over multiple years, NewEra could only laugh.


i think his stats speak for themselves got 3rd team ALL NBA and a Championship while only play 28mpg. close to averaging a point a minute, 1 of 2 players available this off-season that is carrying a 4 star rating or higher
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Post#1251 » by bringbackhoffa » Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:58 pm

given the uproar i will keep the team profiles for myself and if anyone wants a copy you can PM and i will send them to you as well.
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Post#1252 » by King of Canada » Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:05 pm

Hoffa posting info that is publicly available is completely harmless. If you don’t like it, treat it like his trade offers and ignore it. And it’s not nearly the shadiest **** that has gone down.
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Post#1253 » by Capn'O » Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:06 pm

We can always "slip him a Willy" like we did in the original BAF draft.
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Post#1254 » by bringbackhoffa » Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:06 pm

King of Canada wrote:Hoffa posting info that is publicly available is completely harmless. If you don’t like it, treat it like his trade offers and ignore it. And it’s not nearly the shadiest **** that has gone down.


yea PMing GMs and telling them not to make deals with certain GMs is a lot more shady
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Post#1255 » by bringbackhoffa » Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:07 pm

Capn'O wrote:We can always "slip him a Willy" like we did in the original BAF draft.


god damn Willy cost me my first rounder this draft
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Post#1256 » by Capn'O » Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:11 pm

I don't think any GM worth their salt is taking it as more than entertainment. It's gonna be how it always was. The big pockets are gonna come out swinging for the guys they want and the people with crab money are gonna be rooting around the bottom for the best scraps that fall through.

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Post#1257 » by 2010 » Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:46 pm

bringbackhoffa wrote:
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bringbackhoffa wrote:
its not tampering since these are all free agents, when Kawhi was a free agent the whole league was talking about where he would end up last off-season

and yes i maybe saving teams a bit of homework, but some of you have said none of what i say is factual or realistic anyways so why does it bother you so much

There’s no GM putting out player profiles for free agents to the public. You’re just doing this for your own selfish reasons instead of adding solid commentary to the game. This speaks a lot about your character.

If you had a bunch of pending free agents to resign this off-season, I guarantee you you wouldn’t be doing this. But carry on.

There’s a reason why this wasn’t even allowed in previous BATs.


i dont care i did a player profile on my own free agent, and did all this knowing i have the biggest free agent next off-season. there was a long lull this off-season which lend its hand to doing this. I stated right of the bat these profiles would have certain biases.


Dude, stfu. A long layoff is not an excuse to operate like a total douche.
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Post#1258 » by 2010 » Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:50 pm

King of Canada wrote:Hoffa posting info that is publicly available is completely harmless. If you don’t like it, treat it like his trade offers and ignore it. And it’s not nearly the shadiest **** that has gone down.


Were player names not public info during BAT drafts? Answer that, anyone who supports this fuggery.

I see standards being set by adhering to the lowest behaviors and not the highest. Usually when cats start talking about how something isn't the worst that has happened, that usually tells you all you need to know about immoral the subject matter is.
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Post#1259 » by 2010 » Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:58 pm

Capn'O wrote:I don't think any GM worth their salt is taking it as more than entertainment. It's gonna be how it always was. The big pockets are gonna come out swinging for the guys they want and the people with crab money are gonna be rooting around the bottom for the best scraps that fall through.

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I stopped reading right there. Fact of the matter is a faction of GMs don't do their homework to max capacity. This dude just helped that contingent out. Stop tryna downplay fuggery.
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Post#1260 » by 2010 » Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:00 am

You have a GM here openly admitting he is operating in bad faith FOR MONTHS and people giving him a pass. :lol:
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