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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Offseason Thread 

Post#221 » by leper-con » Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:28 pm

a line up of GAllo ,HAyward, Tatum, Brown and Kemba would be pretty formidable.
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Offseason Thread 

Post#222 » by Celts17Pride » Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:37 pm

djFan71 wrote:If we're going to commit anything past this year to an oft-injured playmaking SF in their 30s, I'd prefer it be Gordon than Gallo. Or as an illustrious former poster put it more succinctly:

Nooooo Gallllooooo!!!!!!!!!

Who says it has to be either or?
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Offseason Thread 

Post#223 » by djFan71 » Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:50 pm

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djFan71 wrote:If we're going to commit anything past this year to an oft-injured playmaking SF in their 30s, I'd prefer it be Gordon than Gallo. Or as an illustrious former poster put it more succinctly:

Nooooo Gallllooooo!!!!!!!!!

Who says it has to be either or?

Good point. I hadn't thought of that at all, honestly. I still don't think MLE Gallo on the Cs exists as a possible timeline, but sure, he's in the group of guys that would be a good get if it were.
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Offseason Thread 

Post#224 » by djFan71 » Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:58 pm

ConstableGeneva wrote:But you're right, some contender might cough up a 2nd (or even 1st) and an expiring for an S&T'd Gallo.

Thunder are in such a weird spot with so many future picks. I wonder what the heck they'd want in an S&T. The standard get ballast/pick back almost doesn't make sense for them. I wonder if it's a weird one where they send Gallo & a picks for a young prospect from a 3rd team and both OKC/contender send picks to that one. Someone like Bagley or WCJ - picks to SAC/CHI, Gallo to contender, Bagley/WCJ to OKC? Contender salary split or worked out somehow.
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Offseason Thread 

Post#225 » by Froob » Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:11 pm

Rondo can opt out of his peanuts contract. MLE?
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Offseason Thread 

Post#226 » by playa-hater » Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:23 pm

leper-con wrote:a line up of GAllo ,HAyward, Tatum, Brown and Kemba would be pretty formidable.


I think people aren't looking at the big picture. Galo is 6'10 and can play any up front position. Just think when Boston does a PNR with Theis/R Williams.. now compare what happens when Galo sets the pick. teams would NOT be able to trap Tatum or Kemba without paying for it..

there are also so many different lineups Boston can use with Galo as well.

how about this BIG BALL lineup..

C - R Williams
PF - Galo
SF - Tatum
SG - Brown
PG - *Hayward.... either Hayward and or Tatum have the ability to initiate the offense anyway..

Smart can literally come in for ANYONE as well.
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Post#227 » by djFan71 » Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:13 am

playa-hater wrote:
leper-con wrote:a line up of GAllo ,HAyward, Tatum, Brown and Kemba would be pretty formidable.


I think people aren't looking at the big picture. Galo is 6'10 and can play any up front position. Just think when Boston does a PNR with Theis/R Williams.. now compare what happens when Galo sets the pick. teams would NOT be able to trap Tatum or Kemba without paying for it..

there are also so many different lineups Boston can use with Galo as well.

how about this BIG BALL lineup..

C - R Williams
PF - Galo
SF - Tatum
SG - Brown
PG - *Hayward.... either Hayward and or Tatum have the ability to initiate the offense anyway..

Smart can literally come in for ANYONE as well.

The big picture is it's not possible. Might as well replace Gallo with LeBron. He's not as good a shooter, but does some other things well. You have the same chance of getting both to come off the bench for the MLE.
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Offseason Thread 

Post#228 » by playa-hater » Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:29 am

djFan71 wrote:
playa-hater wrote:
leper-con wrote:a line up of GAllo ,HAyward, Tatum, Brown and Kemba would be pretty formidable.


I think people aren't looking at the big picture. Galo is 6'10 and can play any up front position. Just think when Boston does a PNR with Theis/R Williams.. now compare what happens when Galo sets the pick. teams would NOT be able to trap Tatum or Kemba without paying for it..

there are also so many different lineups Boston can use with Galo as well.

how about this BIG BALL lineup..

C - R Williams
PF - Galo
SF - Tatum
SG - Brown
PG - *Hayward.... either Hayward and or Tatum have the ability to initiate the offense anyway..

Smart can literally come in for ANYONE as well.

The big picture is it's not possible. Might as well replace Gallo with LeBron. He's not as good a shooter, but does some other things well. You have the same chance of getting both to come off the bench for the MLE.


Galo said he wants to compete for a Tittle. How many teams are that close? and how many have Money.. Miami is the only one I can think of...

Either way your messing up my dream with reality, and I don't like it :evil:
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Offseason Thread 

Post#229 » by Froob » Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:34 am

I’m assuming Thompson is headed to the Lakers, but it’d be nice if we could get him for MLE. He can shoot 3s now.
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Offseason Thread 

Post#230 » by Darth Celtic » Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:37 am

leper-con wrote:a line up of GAllo ,HAyward, Tatum, Brown and Kemba would be pretty formidable.
Yeah. Lots of guys saying gallo would replace Hayward. No. He would play with him at the five. Imagine the zone busting and space on the floor with him at the five. Very few teams require a real center today. Theis or timelord can start those games.

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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Offseason Thread 

Post#231 » by Darth Celtic » Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:39 am

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ConstableGeneva wrote:But you're right, some contender might cough up a 2nd (or even 1st) and an expiring for an S&T'd Gallo.

Thunder are in such a weird spot with so many future picks. I wonder what the heck they'd want in an S&T. The standard get ballast/pick back almost doesn't make sense for them. I wonder if it's a weird one where they send Gallo & a picks for a young prospect from a 3rd team and both OKC/contender send picks to that one. Someone like Bagley or WCJ - picks to SAC/CHI, Gallo to contender, Bagley/WCJ to OKC? Contender salary split or worked out somehow.
We can't accept a sign and trade unless Hayward opts out and leaves for nothing.


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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Offseason Thread 

Post#232 » by djFan71 » Wed Oct 14, 2020 1:06 am

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djFan71 wrote:
ConstableGeneva wrote:But you're right, some contender might cough up a 2nd (or even 1st) and an expiring for an S&T'd Gallo.

Thunder are in such a weird spot with so many future picks. I wonder what the heck they'd want in an S&T. The standard get ballast/pick back almost doesn't make sense for them. I wonder if it's a weird one where they send Gallo & a picks for a young prospect from a 3rd team and both OKC/contender send picks to that one. Someone like Bagley or WCJ - picks to SAC/CHI, Gallo to contender, Bagley/WCJ to OKC? Contender salary split or worked out somehow.
We can't accept a sign and trade unless Hayward opts out and leaves for nothing.

I wasn't including us in this.
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Offseason Thread 

Post#233 » by djFan71 » Wed Oct 14, 2020 1:16 am

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I think people aren't looking at the big picture. Galo is 6'10 and can play any up front position. Just think when Boston does a PNR with Theis/R Williams.. now compare what happens when Galo sets the pick. teams would NOT be able to trap Tatum or Kemba without paying for it..

there are also so many different lineups Boston can use with Galo as well.

how about this BIG BALL lineup..

C - R Williams
PF - Galo
SF - Tatum
SG - Brown
PG - *Hayward.... either Hayward and or Tatum have the ability to initiate the offense anyway..

Smart can literally come in for ANYONE as well.

The big picture is it's not possible. Might as well replace Gallo with LeBron. He's not as good a shooter, but does some other things well. You have the same chance of getting both to come off the bench for the MLE.


Galo said he wants to compete for a Tittle. How many teams are that close? and how many have Money.. Miami is the only one I can think of...

Either way your messing up my dream with reality, and I don't like it :evil:

Yeah, sorry. I'd be onboard of adding Gallo to Gordon instead of replacing him. I just don't see it.

Main thing, is we don't have money either. Even if the lux tax goes to $139M and Kanter doesn't opt in and we dump Poirier for cash/47, we're only slightly below the tax line. We'd in theory have the full MLE. But to use that you still have to stay below the apron. And we're not enough under the tax that we can use the full MLE and still stay within $5-6M of the tax line which is a guestimate of where the apron will be. (It's all up in the air now).

So, realistically we only have the tax payer MLE or we're doing more complicated roster moves (or Hayward resigns at a lower starting salary next year). At the level ALL the contenders have that much to work with as well. And some can probably work to get the full MLE and beat us straight on money. On top of that, most/all the other contenders have a starting slot waiting AND more of an offensive role for him. On our team he'd be anywhere from 3rd-5th. Heck 6th in some of the Smart goes crazy games.

And as Darth mentioned, we can't realistically S&T for him either, due to the apron again.

Sorry. Let's go back to agreeing on Beys & Reed. :)
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Offseason Thread 

Post#234 » by playa-hater » Wed Oct 14, 2020 1:58 am

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djFan71 wrote:The big picture is it's not possible. Might as well replace Gallo with LeBron. He's not as good a shooter, but does some other things well. You have the same chance of getting both to come off the bench for the MLE.


Galo said he wants to compete for a Tittle. How many teams are that close? and how many have Money.. Miami is the only one I can think of...

Either way your messing up my dream with reality, and I don't like it :evil:

Yeah, sorry. I'd be onboard of adding Gallo to Gordon instead of replacing him. I just don't see it.

Main thing, is we don't have money either. Even if the lux tax goes to $139M and Kanter doesn't opt in and we dump Poirier for cash/47, we're only slightly below the tax line. We'd in theory have the full MLE. But to use that you still have to stay below the apron. And we're not enough under the tax that we can use the full MLE and still stay within $5-6M of the tax line which is a guestimate of where the apron will be. (It's all up in the air now).

So, realistically we only have the tax payer MLE or we're doing more complicated roster moves (or Hayward resigns at a lower starting salary next year). At the level ALL the contenders have that much to work with as well. And some can probably work to get the full MLE and beat us straight on money. On top of that, most/all the other contenders have a starting slot waiting AND more of an offensive role for him. On our team he'd be anywhere from 3rd-5th. Heck 6th in some of the Smart goes crazy games.

And as Darth mentioned, we can't realistically S&T for him either, due to the apron again.

Sorry. Let's go back to agreeing on Beys & Reed. :)


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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Offseason Thread 

Post#235 » by KGboss » Wed Oct 14, 2020 3:25 am

What about DeMarcus Cousins?

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Post#236 » by CeltsfanSinceBirth » Wed Oct 14, 2020 3:47 am

KGboss wrote:What about DeMarcus Cousins?

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What about "no"? He looked awful coming back from a torn achilles, but adding a torn ACL probably destroys what little athleticism he had left. If he was a good guy, it would be worth the gamble. But he isn't a good guy.
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Post#237 » by BRUNiNHO91 » Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:34 pm

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KGboss wrote:What about DeMarcus Cousins?

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What about "no"? He looked awful coming back from a torn achilles, but adding a torn ACL probably destroys what little athleticism he had left. If he was a good guy, it would be worth the gamble. But he isn't a good guy.


We just had Vincent Poirier eat a roster spot all year to contribute as much as me and you did. If Cousins can run up and down the court for 15 minutes, I'd give it a go for a vet min deal. Give him half a season to prove himself and if he sucks or acts up, cut his ass. I feel like we need to take some risks with these problematic vet guys at some point. Wanted Dwight last year and if we signed him we probably would have made the finals.
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Offseason Thread 

Post#238 » by KGboss » Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:43 pm

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CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:
KGboss wrote:What about DeMarcus Cousins?

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What about "no"? He looked awful coming back from a torn achilles, but adding a torn ACL probably destroys what little athleticism he had left. If he was a good guy, it would be worth the gamble. But he isn't a good guy.


We just had Vincent Poirier eat a roster spot all year to contribute as much as me and you did. If Cousins can run up and down the court for 15 minutes, I'd give it a go for a vet min deal. Give him half a season to prove himself and if he sucks or acts up, cut his ass. I feel like we need to take some risks with these problematic vet guys at some point. Wanted Dwight last year and if we signed him we probably would have made the finals.
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Post#239 » by SmartWentCrazy » Wed Oct 14, 2020 1:18 pm

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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Offseason Thread 

Post#240 » by Ernest » Wed Oct 14, 2020 2:34 pm

Froob wrote:Rondo can opt out of his peanuts contract. MLE?


Sign me up. Is he still bffs with Cousins? Why not take both? Then just keep everyone, draft well and reevaluate before the deadline.

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