Wolves Interested In Trading Out Of First Overall Pick For Win-Now Player

Homer38 · Post #1 » by **Homer38** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 6:41 pm

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/259879/Wolves-Interested-In-Trading-Out-Of-First-Overall-Pick-For-Win-Now-Player

HoopsterJones · Post #2 » by **HoopsterJones** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 6:45 pm

This draft is the most questionable since 2013 where Anthony Bennett was the #1 overall pick.

Not sure who’s willing to trade a quality player for this pick.

mademan · Post #3 » by **mademan** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 6:46 pm

Both top pick teams want to move down for win now players. Cant remember the last time that happened

IgorK · Post #4 » by **IgorK** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 6:46 pm

I'll give them Luol Deng's stretch provision for it.

knuckles862 · Post #5 » by **knuckles862** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 6:46 pm

Andrew wiggins for the #1 pick who says no?

mcmokken · Post #6 » by **mcmokken** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 6:49 pm

knuckles862 wrote:Andrew wiggins for the #1 pick who says no?

Minnesota trades the pick to get Wiggins back :lol:

MotownMadness · Post #7 » by **MotownMadness** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:05 pm

This isn't news

SSUBluesman · Post #8 » by **SSUBluesman** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:07 pm

Given the uncertainty both around the draft class itself and the reduced season/scouting there was likely to be less interest/value for the #1.

And if that wasn't bad enough the Warriors are looking to move #2 further reducing the value.

Finally moving up in the draft, and for #1 no less, during the 2020 draft class/pandemic is such a Wolves thing.

pr0gr4m · Post #9 » by **pr0gr4m** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:08 pm

Powell+29 or Lowry+29 would probably be the Raptors best offer. I don't see anyone from this draft and the chance of hitting on a guy who can make a better defensive/offensive impact than OG/Siakam.

celticfan42487 · Post #10 » by **celticfan42487** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:11 pm

One not so insignificant factor for anyone trading for that pick... that's a lot of guaranteed money in a time when the NBA just had no fans in seats and what... 30% of normal ratings? There may be more value in the 10th pick than the first or second when it's the same type of player for a much lower cost.

There's no guarantee until we get a vaccine anything changes or goes back to normal either. So an interested team is likely a bad team with a vet (hello Drummond and such) that has cap room with a shrinking cap to make sure they avoid any luxury tax because owners will likely be taking an L around the league financially without any butts in seats.

Then you have the main source of revenue for the league in tv contracts coming up at the worst time possible... and a lot of owners are going to be looking to bail out soon as their franchise values all plummet. They'll want to maximize the value of their franchise for what I assume will be say Chinese owners or such who will come in and scoop up a presence.

Depending on how bad it gets with ratings and that new tv deal we may even see the league shrink. But no need to cross that bridge until we see how next year goes with ratings and COVID, international presence, ect.

Johnny Bball · Post #11 » by **Johnny Bball** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:16 pm

Powell and a first in 21 or 23 maybe. Powell should be starting somewhere and they need a SG, and he's cheap next year and they don't need to send back salary.

mademan · Post #12 » by **mademan** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:20 pm

Johnny Bball wrote:Powell and a first in 21 or 23 maybe. Powell should be starting somewhere and they need a SG, and he's cheap next year and they don't need to send back salary.

They need a SF, not a SG. Beasley was balling for them before the season ended. OG would be the target, tho dont think the Raps are moving him

whatisacenter · Post #13 » by **whatisacenter** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:20 pm

knuckles862 wrote:Andrew wiggins for the #1 pick who says no?

Warriors...they would probably have to take back DLo to make it happen

Woodsanity · Post #14 » by **Woodsanity** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:24 pm

knuckles862 wrote:Andrew wiggins for the #1 pick who says no?

They said win now not lose now.

Wolveswin · Post #15 » by **Wolveswin** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:30 pm

Good thing is, they are easier to trade with than Warriors situation. No pesky TPE (Warriors hard capped, timing of trade and threshold of 17.2) or albatross that is Wiggins contract. Warriors have very little salary matching to offer.

Wolves have expiring Johnson. Culver if needed. Okogie is promising youth. And all kinds of youth filler: Spellman, Evans, Vanderbilt, Reid and Layman. Plus #17 to sweeten the offer.

Problem is, not many win-now players available.

whatisacenter · Post #16 » by **whatisacenter** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:32 pm

Wolveswin wrote:Good thing is, they are easier to trade with than Warriors situation. No pesky TPE (Warriors hard capped, timing of trade and threshold of 17.2) or albatross that is Wiggins contract. Warriors have very little salary matching to offer.

Wolves have expiring Johnson. Culver if needed. Okogie is promising youth. And all kinds of youth filler: Spellman, Evans, Vanderbilt, Reid and Layman. Plus #17 to sweeten the offer.

Problem is, not many win-now players available.

Warriors are no longer hard capped and the TPE is an asset

UcanUwill · Post #17 » by **UcanUwill** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:34 pm

mademan wrote:Both top pick teams want to move down for win now players. Cant remember the last time that happened

And none of other 28 teams want to trade up it seems.

MarcusBrody · Post #18 » by **MarcusBrody** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:48 pm

celticfan42487 wrote:One not so insignificant factor for anyone trading for that pick... that's a lot of guaranteed money in a time when the NBA just had no fans in seats and what... 30% of normal ratings? There may be more value in the 10th pick than the first or second when it's the same type of player for a much lower cost.

There's no guarantee until we get a vaccine anything changes or goes back to normal either. So an interested team is likely a bad team with a vet (hello Drummond and such) that has cap room with a shrinking cap to make sure they avoid any luxury tax because owners will likely be taking an L around the league financially.

Then you have the main source of revenue for the league in tv contracts coming up at the worst time possible... and a lot of owners are going to be looking to bail out soon. They'll want to maximize the value of their franchise for what I assume will be say Chinese owners or such who will come in and scoop up a presence.

I mean, it's not that much money. Rookie deals are only guaranteed for 2 years and I think that Zion got about 10 million a year on average across those years (and 11/year averaged across the 4y that the deal is for with the team option). There aren't two many win now players you can trade for who are going to be on 10m 2 year guaranteed contracts.

Shock Defeat · Post #19 » by **Shock Defeat** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:52 pm

Russell Westbrook would fit nicely with KAT and D'Lo

pcbothwel · Post #20 » by **pcbothwel** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:55 pm

celticfan42487 wrote:One not so insignificant factor for anyone trading for that pick... that's a lot of guaranteed money in a time when the NBA just had no fans in seats and what...

QFT.
Would you rather have Wiseman at 4/44M or Okongwu at 4/24M (#1 vs #7)?

Ideally, I think Minny wants to move back, not out.
If they could trade 1 to NYK for Robinson and 8 (Maybe 38 too), they shouldn't hesitate

DLO
Vassell
Culver
KAT
Robinson

Another Sleeper team that I could see making that move and having a "Win-Now" Player: Kings

Hield + 12 for 1 + Johnson
Draft Achuiwa @ 12 and Maxey @ 17 (And Tillman @ 33)

DLo / Maxey
Hield / Maxey
Culver / Okogie
Achuiwa
KAT / Tillman

Add a shooter and defense