Wolves Interested In Trading Out Of First Overall Pick For Win-Now Player

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Re: Wolves Interested In Trading Out Of First Overall Pick For Win-Now Player 

Post#21 » by K4P » Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:00 pm

Johnny Bball wrote:Powell and a first in 21 or 23 maybe. Powell should be starting somewhere and they need a SG, and he's cheap next year and they don't need to send back salary.

Why would the Wolves trade the number one pick for a player that isn’t better than Malik Beasley and plays the same position?
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Post#22 » by Wolveswin » Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:01 pm

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Wolveswin wrote:Good thing is, they are easier to trade with than Warriors situation. No pesky TPE (Warriors hard capped, timing of trade and threshold of 17.2) or albatross that is Wiggins contract. Warriors have very little salary matching to offer.

Wolves have expiring Johnson. Culver if needed. Okogie is promising youth. And all kinds of youth filler: Spellman, Evans, Vanderbilt, Reid and Layman. Plus #17 to sweeten the offer.

Problem is, not many win-now players available.


Warriors are no longer hard capped and the TPE is an asset

Not the way I understand it. They are hard capped until new year starts. The TPE is an asset with limitations. Hence word pesky.
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Post#23 » by Duke4life831 » Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:05 pm

Of course they want to trade out of the #1 pick. The gap between #1 and #10 in this draft is basically nothing. But that is the issue, when a team with the #1 pick wants to trade down, most likely there arent any teams that are dying to jump up to #1. Basically Minny or GS are hoping that a small market team falls in love with LaMelo Ball and are willing to jump up to take him so they can get some buzz. Either than that, you arent going to get much in return.
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Re: Wolves Interested In Trading Out Of First Overall Pick For Win-Now Player 

Post#24 » by Warriorfan » Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:12 pm

Mavericks were a 7th seed . Timberwolves would need lots of win now to climb into the playoffs.
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Post#25 » by Wolveswin » Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:20 pm

This offseason will be telling.

What win-now move do Wolves successfully pull off?

Do Thunder trade Paul and go tank?

Do Pelicans finally move Holiday?

Do Jazz trade Gobert?

Do Spurs age out and trade off vets (offseason or deadline)?

Wolves should be level with Grizzlies and Suns and others above depending on what outcomes those questions result.
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Post#26 » by J_T » Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:28 pm

They want to get win-now player to add to their existing core of 2 lose-now players.
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Post#27 » by mademan » Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:30 pm

Warriorfan wrote:Mavericks were a 7th seed . Timberwolves would need lots of win now to climb into the playoffs.


They dont need to win all the way to the playoffs, but they gotta start winning. Winning culture is a thing and theyve been terrible for far too long to continue rebuilding every year. And now with no pick next year (unless they bottom out), theyre more incentivized to try and make the playoffs. And you never know; who thought OKC or the Grizz would be in the playoffs/ in playoff contention? Or the Suns?
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Post#28 » by tarantism » Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:31 pm

Their best selling point is Wiseman. If a team loves him then Minnesota might be able to sell somebody on the Warriors taking him at #2. They won't get an all star, but they could probably get a good player in exchange for moving to the mid/late lottery.

Boston could potentially send #14, #26 and Daniel Theis. Minnesota gets an above average starter who can play with Towns, along with two first round picks. They are probably trying to win now though and Wiseman is a project.

Charlotte could try to jump GSW and grab Wiseman, but I would need to look at who they have available. New York could send #8 and Randle. I don't know, there are a few "meh" deals out there but they could always just take Edwards or say **** it and gamble on Wiseman.

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Post#29 » by Lalouie » Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:34 pm

this is the kind of perverse thinking reserved for teams/orgs like minnie.

"win now" players are for good teams that can never hurdle that bar or good teams getting old, both have a small window

teams that go 19wins and are at the bottom of the league and perennial lottery teams are supposed to know it takes more than one player, but leave it to minnie to pick the worst draft year in ages to try to pull a double whammy
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Post#30 » by TheFinishSniper » Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:40 pm

I wonder if Clippers would be interested trading PG13 for #1. Now I know it doesnt make sense for Clippers but we talking here Jerry West being good talent visionary. Or possibly Indiana in case Oladipo wants to bail out would be interested.
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Post#31 » by Up-And-Coming » Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:41 pm

Draymond Green, they need defense :lol: D’Angelo has been a bit overrated as a floor general/leader. He’s more of a shooting guard. Idk how the contracts would fit but for funsies:

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Post#32 » by cycl0nus » Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:57 pm

if wolves are smart like the kings, then they can land the ultimate win-now player.

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Post#33 » by Jadoogar » Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:59 pm

Johnny Bball wrote:Powell and a first in 21 or 23 maybe. Powell should be starting somewhere and they need a SG, and he's cheap next year and they don't need to send back salary.


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Post#34 » by Johnny Bball » Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:08 pm

Jadoogar wrote:
Johnny Bball wrote:Powell and a first in 21 or 23 maybe. Powell should be starting somewhere and they need a SG, and he's cheap next year and they don't need to send back salary.


C'mon


They aren't getting much more. There s nobody is this draft that stands out at the top.
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Post#35 » by Jadoogar » Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:21 pm

Johnny Bball wrote:
Jadoogar wrote:
Johnny Bball wrote:Powell and a first in 21 or 23 maybe. Powell should be starting somewhere and they need a SG, and he's cheap next year and they don't need to send back salary.


C'mon


They aren't getting much more. There s nobody is this draft that stands out at the top.


More than Norm Powell on an expiring and a very late pick
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Post#36 » by Jcity08 » Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:26 pm

Is there a Win Now player that can really put it all together for the Wolves that is available and is their pick even compelling enough.
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Post#37 » by Doug33 » Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:33 pm

knuckles862 wrote:Andrew wiggins for the #1 pick who says no?

lol. That's a good one
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Post#38 » by Doug33 » Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:38 pm

Dermar Derozan. They need a small forward!
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Post#39 » by Wolveswin » Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:47 pm

Lalouie wrote:this is the kind of perverse thinking reserved for teams/orgs like minnie.

"win now" players are for good teams that can never hurdle that bar or good teams getting old, both have a small window

teams that go 19wins and are at the bottom of the league and perennial lottery teams are supposed to know it takes more than one player, but leave it to minnie to pick the worst draft year in ages to try to pull a double whammy

That is very subjective opinion “this is the worse draft year in ages.” That will not be confirmed nor denied for about 3 years.

Too many around these parts are quick to equate hype for a draftee as equal to their NBA playing potential and actual basketball abilities.

Let’s say Covid didn’t hit. Does Edwards have the same hype as Morant with a complete tournament to showcase? We don’t know. But because he didn’t get that hype (like hype credibility currency in the bank), does it mean his actual NBA abilities are any different because he didn’t play in the tournament? Nope. I don’t think he jumps any less high or shoots much differently or runs slower.

How about Wiseman. Say he played and showcased his freak size and athleticism. Sports center and YouTube of Wiseman dunking on heads would be all the MSM rage. Does that hype make him a better NBA player or just a better hyped #1 draft pick? One that makes fans and NBA executives sleep better at night when making him the pick. Lack of hype doesn’t make him shorter or less freak in size to athleticism ratio.

If scouts actually think after whatever evaluation they can Covid do, think Edwards isn’t a NBA player worth top 3, or Wiseman isn’t a freak worth the gamble, or Ball isn’t more Doncic than Rubio, sure make it a weak draft. But it will be hard with such Covid limitations to truly make that NBA judgement. Including hyping a kid all over town.

We will all see in 3 short years.
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Post#40 » by kenwood3333 » Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:53 pm

They had a win now player before but it ended with an ugly departure
I m not sure if the organization is ready for someone to come in and develop a win now culture

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