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[King of Canada]

I’m curious cuz I don’t know the full history but how did some of these relatively young guys also end up with such atrocious contracts? I’m talking about the DSJ and Josh Jackson’s of this world.

Hi Melo!

Frank at 170/2 stands out too...

Willy too!

[Manhattan Project]

Could y'all explain in as a concise way as possible how that happened? Because there is clearly a big scale difference between the rookie classes.

The 2017 NBA draft was included in the league wide auction where we all bid on all the players in the NBA. That's why those rookies have some crazy contracts.

Oh damn. I guess it was "fair" since those were the rules of the game and the consensus was with it. But I would think a one time scaling back on an agreed upon proportion would help. Crazy, lol.

Learn your lesson, adapt and move on. Some people are playing the NBA when they build teams, some people are playing the sim. We live in a world here in which Harden is the most complete two way player around next to Davis probably in this sim. Never in a million years would I trot out this defense if this was based completely on real life. We'll see who learned their lessons when the league in two years pretty much resets itself.

[2010]

$59 and averaged 14/8 at PF in the SIM last season. I'll take it.

But I can expect a lack of patience and rush to judgment from the GM who traded young Lauri for heartbroken Love, and took on salary to do it.

Which has literally nothing to do with what I said, but you been off your game with Hoffa playing his Jedi Mind Tricks on you. Bagley was the first overall selection in the draft and has yet to receive an extension where as the second overall and third overall picks in the same draft already have. [Ayton and Luka]

What's that? You just traded for Bagley this offseason so that has absolutely nothing to do with you? I know... that's the point. You just saw Bagley and felt the need to go ramble ramble ramble. Cmon 2010, you a lot better than this. You're not on a different level, you're not playing chess while the rest of us are playing checkers.

What hoffa have to do with your conversation with me tho? That's clown commentary so I'ma ignore it.

You dissing Bags has nothing to do with me, the person. Yet you are attempting to devalue/discredit the player. And you are inaccurate. So you tried to sneak-diss a player and made yourself look like the checkers player.

Bags production has been rock solid. 14/8 IRL and in the SIM. The negatives are the injuries IRL. Yet that is proven to have zero bearing on the SIM.

As for extensions. So what if guys like Luka, Ayton, SGA have already been extended? A guy like Bags upside is still well within reach on time for him to still be granted a 3-year extension. Which when given will still make him much cheaper than acquiring Kevin Love, or even Lauri, who was still much more expensive than Bagley while you had him.

The chess game is to look for players like Bags, who are attainable, extendable, yet still have upside.

[mpharris36]

The 2017 NBA draft was included in the league wide auction where we all bid on all the players in the NBA. That's why those rookies have some crazy contracts.

Oh damn. I guess it was "fair" since those were the rules of the game and the consensus was with it. But I would think a one time scaling back on an agreed upon proportion would help. Crazy, lol.

Learn your lesson, adapt and move on. Some people are playing the NBA when they build teams, some people are playing the sim. We live in a world here in which Harden is the most complete two way player around next to Davis probably in this sim. Never in a million years would I trot out this defense if this was based completely on real life. We'll see who learned their lessons when the league in two years pretty much resets itself.

exactly if Melo can survive and built a competitive team after he signed those horrible contracts everyone was on the same playing field and adapted.

[Manhattan Project]

absolutely. But look at the other picks around them. Those instantly get perceived as bad value contracts...because there are even vets that are underpaid.

We had Slicin paying Spencer Dinwiddie $1 for 3 years. If you get great value you did your homework and probably also got a bit lucky.

I've seen Jackson and Dennis Smith get traded, there are no bad contracts if you're willing to try and move them apparently. All kidding aside, sometimes you roll the dice and hit on a guy, sometimes your sitting on a dollar contract. Look at Hezi, he's putting a lot of faith in Graham paying off for him next year in the sim, but he still has a great contract, same with Nunn.

[HEZI]

Jim: So break it down for us KD, what made Kyrie have to go?

KD: Let me tell you something, Dlo outplayed him in the first round, when I was going to war against GSW? He was shooting in the 40s and letting Lemon pepper Lou torch him.

KD: Don't get me wrong we had a great offense, number 2 in the league but opposing guards were torching us every night.

KD: As soon as game 7 ended I got on the phone with Smash and told him he gotta go.. I gave him some names on who to replace him with and I am happy to say I'll be hooping with my favorite player out east next season!

Wall been looking good. Dude was playing with bone spurs in his foot for like 2 years and still put up All Star numbers. If he's pain free now and the achilles healed (pun intended) he should have a great year. Interested to see what you get him for in terms of $$$

[Manhattan Project]

What hoffa have to do with your conversation with me tho? That's clown commentary so I'ma ignore it.

You dissing Bags has nothing to do with me, the person. Yet you are attempting to devalue/discredit the player. And you are inaccurate. So you tried to sneak-diss a player and made yourself look like the checkers player.

Bags production has been rock solid. 14/8 IRL and in the SIM. The negatives are the injuries IRL. Yet that is proven to have zero bearing on the SIM.

As for extensions. So what if guys like Luka, Ayton, SGA have already been extended? A guy like Bags upside is still well within reach on time for him to still be granted a 3-year extension. Which when given will still make him much cheaper than acquiring Kevin Love, or even Lauri, who was still much more expensive than Bagley while you had him.

The chess game is to look for players like Bags, who are attainable, extendable, yet still have upside.

Literally all I said was poor fella, first overall pick hasn't gotten an extension yet. Take it how you want

[King of Canada]

Jim: So break it down for us KD, what made Kyrie have to go?

KD: Let me tell you something, Dlo outplayed him in the first round, when I was going to war against GSW? He was shooting in the 40s and letting Lemon pepper Lou torch him.

KD: Don't get me wrong we had a great offense, number 2 in the league but opposing guards were torching us every night.

KD: As soon as game 7 ended I got on the phone with Smash and told him he gotta go.. I gave him some names on who to replace him with and I am happy to say I'll be hooping with my favorite player out east next season!

[Smash3]

Oh damn. I guess it was "fair" since those were the rules of the game and the consensus was with it. But I would think a one time scaling back on an agreed upon proportion would help. Crazy, lol.

Learn your lesson, adapt and move on. Some people are playing the NBA when they build teams, some people are playing the sim. We live in a world here in which Harden is the most complete two way player around next to Davis probably in this sim. Never in a million years would I trot out this defense if this was based completely on real life. We'll see who learned their lessons when the league in two years pretty much resets itself.

exactly if Melo can survive and built a competitive team after he signed those horrible contracts everyone was on the same playing field and adapted.

Funny how so many teams had all those crippling contracts, a lot of those contracts are pretty much gone, things can quickly turn around in BAF.

[HEZI]

While its lit in here

Ish Smith available

11 PPG
5 APG
3 RPG

Cheap productive backup. Looking for a solid asset in return

[Smash3]

Jim: So break it down for us KD, what made Kyrie have to go?

KD: Let me tell you something, Dlo outplayed him in the first round, when I was going to war against GSW? He was shooting in the 40s and letting Lemon pepper Lou torch him.

KD: Don't get me wrong we had a great offense, number 2 in the league but opposing guards were torching us every night.

KD: As soon as game 7 ended I got on the phone with Smash and told him he gotta go.. I gave him some names on who to replace him with and I am happy to say I'll be hooping with my favorite player out east next season!

[mpharris36]

Learn your lesson, adapt and move on. Some people are playing the NBA when they build teams, some people are playing the sim. We live in a world here in which Harden is the most complete two way player around next to Davis probably in this sim. Never in a million years would I trot out this defense if this was based completely on real life. We'll see who learned their lessons when the league in two years pretty much resets itself.

exactly if Melo can survive and built a competitive team after he signed those horrible contracts everyone was on the same playing field and adapted.

Funny how so many teams had all those crippling contracts, a lot of those contracts are pretty much gone, things can quickly turn around in BAF.

yeah I mean myself and context a few others have swallowed some of those horrible contracts for assets with the buyout close for assets. In two years it will be interesting to see how FA is handled with a majority of the big name players hitting the market. There will always be overpays but I think many people started to get the hang of what may or may not work in the SIM...I think the most egregious ones were the players signed to major contracts who were rookies. That is where production didn't match up to contract the most as we even see in rookies and 2nd year players today where the SIM takes a while to catch up to on court production.

The SIM also keeps hapless vets around for more production then they are worth as well.

[3toheadmelo]

Oh damn. I guess it was "fair" since those were the rules of the game and the consensus was with it. But I would think a one time scaling back on an agreed upon proportion would help. Crazy, lol.

Learn your lesson, adapt and move on. Some people are playing the NBA when they build teams, some people are playing the sim. We live in a world here in which Harden is the most complete two way player around next to Davis probably in this sim. Never in a million years would I trot out this defense if this was based completely on real life. We'll see who learned their lessons when the league in two years pretty much resets itself.

exactly if Melo can survive and built a competitive team after he signed those horrible contracts everyone was on the same playing field and adapted.

[2010]

Could y'all explain in as a concise way as possible how that happened? Because there is clearly a big scale difference between the rookie classes.

The 2017 NBA draft was included in the league wide auction where we all bid on all the players in the NBA. That's why those rookies have some crazy contracts.

Oh damn. I guess it was "fair" since those were the rules of the game and the consensus was with it. But I would think a one time scaling back on an agreed upon proportion would help. Crazy, lol.

I keep saying some people are gonna want an amnesty provision after the contracts that get handed out this offseason too.

Which is why I keep tryna warn GMs to not dumb out at Hoffa's behest this offseason and to show some restraint.

[3toheadmelo]

[Smash3]

John Wall
Norman Powell
OG Anunoby
Kevin Durant
James Wiseman



John Wall
Anthony Edwards
Og Anunoby
Kevin Durant
Draymond Green

[2010]

What hoffa have to do with your conversation with me tho? That's clown commentary so I'ma ignore it.

You dissing Bags has nothing to do with me, the person. Yet you are attempting to devalue/discredit the player. And you are inaccurate. So you tried to sneak-diss a player and made yourself look like the checkers player.

Bags production has been rock solid. 14/8 IRL and in the SIM. The negatives are the injuries IRL. Yet that is proven to have zero bearing on the SIM.

As for extensions. So what if guys like Luka, Ayton, SGA have already been extended? A guy like Bags upside is still well within reach on time for him to still be granted a 3-year extension. Which when given will still make him much cheaper than acquiring Kevin Love, or even Lauri, who was still much more expensive than Bagley while you had him.

The chess game is to look for players like Bags, who are attainable, extendable, yet still have upside.

Literally all I said was poor fella, first overall pick hasn't gotten an extension yet. Take it how you want

Only he wasn't actually a first overall pick.

You have proven yet again to be a misinformed GM.

The more you try to get cute and throw barbs, they keep boomeranging back to you, making you look foolish.

[King of Canada]

John Wall
Norman Powell
OG Anunoby
Kevin Durant
James Wiseman



John Wall
Anthony Edwards
Og Anunoby
Kevin Durant
Draymond Green

John Wall
Anthony Edwards
Josh Richardson
Kevin Durant
Draymond Green

[Manhattan Project]

What hoffa have to do with your conversation with me tho? That's clown commentary so I'ma ignore it.

You dissing Bags has nothing to do with me, the person. Yet you are attempting to devalue/discredit the player. And you are inaccurate. So you tried to sneak-diss a player and made yourself look like the checkers player.

Bags production has been rock solid. 14/8 IRL and in the SIM. The negatives are the injuries IRL. Yet that is proven to have zero bearing on the SIM.

As for extensions. So what if guys like Luka, Ayton, SGA have already been extended? A guy like Bags upside is still well within reach on time for him to still be granted a 3-year extension. Which when given will still make him much cheaper than acquiring Kevin Love, or even Lauri, who was still much more expensive than Bagley while you had him.

The chess game is to look for players like Bags, who are attainable, extendable, yet still have upside.

Literally all I said was poor fella, first overall pick hasn't gotten an extension yet. Take it how you want

Only he wasn't actually a first overall pick.

You have proven yet again to be a misinformed GM.

The more you try to get cute and throw barbs, they keep boomeranging back to you, making you look foolish.

2018 NBA DRAFT


SATURDAY JUNE 16

1. Orlando Magic- Marvin Bagley III (Duke University)
2. Cleveland Cavaliers- Deandre Ayton (University of Arizona
3. Indiana Pacers- Luka Doncic (Real Madrid- Spain)
4. Charlotte Hornets- Mohamed Bamba (University of Texas)
5. New Orleans Pelicans- Trae Young (Oklahoma University)
6. Charlotte Hornets- Jaren Jackson Jr. (Michigan St. University)
7. San Antonio Spurs- Michael Porter Jr. (Missouri University)
8. New Orleans Pelicans- Mikal Bridges (Villanova University)
9. Philadelphia 76ers- Miles Bridges (Michigan St. University)

I mean is there anything else that needs to be spelled out for you?

[mpharris36]

2018 NBA DRAFT


SATURDAY JUNE 16

1. Orlando Magic- Marvin Bagley III (Duke University)
2. Cleveland Cavaliers- Deandre Ayton (University of Arizona
3. Indiana Pacers- Luka Doncic (Real Madrid- Spain)
4. Charlotte Hornets- Mohamed Bamba (University of Texas)
5. New Orleans Pelicans- Trae Young (Oklahoma University)
6. Charlotte Hornets- Jaren Jackson Jr. (Michigan St. University)
7. San Antonio Spurs- Michael Porter Jr. (Missouri University)
8. New Orleans Pelicans- Mikal Bridges (Villanova University)
9. Philadelphia 76ers- Miles Bridges (Michigan St. University)