Miami Heat Speculation Thread - 2020 and beyond...

[Beenie]

Cheap replacements likely aren't going to help us get back to the finals, need a trade for a guy like Randle and decent vet signings like DJ Augustine

Randle has 2 years remaining on his contract. Conventional wisdom suggests that he's not good enough for Mia to surrender their 2021 FA plans for.

His teammate Portis, however, has only 1 year left on his contract. Admittedly, I haven't paid enough attention to Portis to know whether or not he would be an adequate defender for Mia, but his offensive skills are solid enough.

Randle's good and not making an egregrious amount of money, planning for the season after next and not the one in front of us is not the type of cocky move we should be running to make. A lot can change in a yr, and we're not promised anything, best to keep competing

I don't disagree with the concept. Although I do think that If Mia were to surrender their 2021 FA splash aspirations that they would set their sights on a bigger prize than Randle.

[Bishop45]

Randle has 2 years remaining on his contract. Conventional wisdom suggests that he's not good enough for Mia to surrender their 2021 FA plans for.

His teammate Portis, however, has only 1 year left on his contract. Admittedly, I haven't paid enough attention to Portis to know whether or not he would be an adequate defender for Mia, but his offensive skills are solid enough.

Randle's good and not making an egregrious amount of money, planning for the season after next and not the one in front of us is not the type of cocky move we should be running to make. A lot can change in a yr, and we're not promised anything, best to keep competing

I don't disagree with the concept. Although I do think that If Mia were to surrender their 2021 FA splash aspirations that they would set their sights on a bigger prize than Randle.

Yea', different strokes. If there's a better player with a decent price tag out there then I'm with it. And you're grossly overstating having to surrender anything, a team with assets will always have space

[Beenie]

Randle's good and not making an egregrious amount of money, planning for the season after next and not the one in front of us is not the type of cocky move we should be running to make. A lot can change in a yr, and we're not promised anything, best to keep competing

I don't disagree with the concept. Although I do think that If Mia were to surrender their 2021 FA splash aspirations that they would set their sights on a bigger prize than Randle.

Yea', different strokes. If there's a better player with a decent price tag out there then I'm with it. And you're grossly overstating having to surrender anything, a team with assets will always have space

Point taken.

Having to deal with another team for their soon to be former player as opposed to just flat out signing the player does complicate things. Obviously, Mia has had recent success with that formula bringing in Jimmy. Although, it was a complicated deal that required multiple teams and a waiting period. Those types of things can and have caused other deals to fall apart in the past.

[carnageta]

Randle does have 2 years left, but that would actually make him an asset in his final year as he’d be expiring. I don’t think it would be too difficult to move him if we really needed to. I would consider it if we strike out on guys like Ibaka/Gallo, etc.

Most I would offer Cousins is the MLE, if our coaching staff trusts he can be healthy enough to play. We don’t even need to play him every game or on back to backs. Just get him ready for the post season. Low risk, high reward situation. But no, he shouldn’t be our only big man move.

[carnageta]

It would be stupid to sign Cousins to anything more than the vet minimum. Our best bet is Ibaka if Riley can convince him to take a pay cut.

Also, look out for Lamarcus Aldridge as a potential buyout candidate late in the season

You really think LMA will be bought out by the Spurs? He’s an expiring so it would make little sense for them to buy him out.

If anything, you’ll have contenders calling them and asking for his services via trade. Wouldn’t surprise me to see teams like Boston, GS, Toronto, or even LA trying to acquire him throughout the year. I would love for us to somehow get him.

Celtics would be deadly with him. He would fit the Al Horford role perfectly for them.

[Miami590]

Randle does have 2 years left, but that would actually make him an asset in his final year as he’d be expiring. I don’t think it would be too difficult to move him if we really needed to. I would consider it if we strike out on guys like Ibaka/Gallo, etc.

Most I would offer Cousins is the MLE, if our coaching staff trusts he can be healthy enough to play. We don’t even need to play him every game or on back to backs. Just get him ready for the post season. Low risk, high reward situation. But no, he shouldn’t be our only big man move.

Cousins for the MLE? Guy can’t even stay on the court and he’s one of the worse defenders when healthy(which is almost never). The Warriors had the same idea; give Cousins time to heal during the season and play him during the playoffs. He was able to play in the finals but he did suffer an injury that kept him out for the majority of the playoffs.

[Miami590]

From 2018-2020 Cousins played a total of 37 games including playoffs. And some people want to give him the MLE which is one of the few ways we can improve this team. Doesn’t make any sense at all.

[Bishop45]

Cousins- estrogen UD

[carnageta]

Randle does have 2 years left, but that would actually make him an asset in his final year as he’d be expiring. I don’t think it would be too difficult to move him if we really needed to. I would consider it if we strike out on guys like Ibaka/Gallo, etc.

Most I would offer Cousins is the MLE, if our coaching staff trusts he can be healthy enough to play. We don’t even need to play him every game or on back to backs. Just get him ready for the post season. Low risk, high reward situation. But no, he shouldn’t be our only big man move.

Cousins for the MLE? Guy can’t even stay on the court and he’s one of the worse defenders when healthy(which is almost never). The Warriors had the same idea; give Cousins time to heal during the season and play him during the playoffs. He was able to play in the finals but he did suffer an injury that kept him out for the majority of the playoffs.

Exactly, and what did the Warriors lose? Nothing at all. It was a low risk/high reward situation.

If we miss out on some of the other big named dudes (i.e. Ibaka/Gallo), then by all means Cousins for the MLE makes sense, imo.

Not saying he'll be the 'piece' that gets us back to the finals, but he can certainly be a contributor (i.e. Kelly Olynyk role).


Offering him multiple years wouldn't make sense. Offering him a significant portion of your cap space would not make sense. But the mere MLE, for a young guy who put up 16 and 7 while hobbled, seems like a risk worth considering..

[Miami590]

Randle does have 2 years left, but that would actually make him an asset in his final year as he’d be expiring. I don’t think it would be too difficult to move him if we really needed to. I would consider it if we strike out on guys like Ibaka/Gallo, etc.

Most I would offer Cousins is the MLE, if our coaching staff trusts he can be healthy enough to play. We don’t even need to play him every game or on back to backs. Just get him ready for the post season. Low risk, high reward situation. But no, he shouldn’t be our only big man move.

Cousins for the MLE? Guy can’t even stay on the court and he’s one of the worse defenders when healthy(which is almost never). The Warriors had the same idea; give Cousins time to heal during the season and play him during the playoffs. He was able to play in the finals but he did suffer an injury that kept him out for the majority of the playoffs.

Exactly, and what did the Warriors lose? Nothing at all. It was a low risk/high reward situation.

If we miss out on some of the other big named dudes (i.e. Ibaka/Gallo), then by all means Cousins for the MLE makes sense, imo.

Not saying he'll be the 'piece' that gets us back to the finals, but he can certainly be a contributor (i.e. Kelly Olynyk role).


Offering him multiple years wouldn't make sense. Offering him a significant portion of your cap space would not make sense. But the mere MLE, for a young guy who put up 16 and 7 while hobbled, seems like a risk worth considering..

Why would we waste our $9 MLE on Cousins when he only got $5.3M from the Warriors two years ago and only $3.5M from the Lakers last year. Pat Riley would have to lose his mind if he were to give him more than he made the last two years combine. I would take a chance on him for the veteran minimum but we need a solid rotational player for the MLE.

The Warriors had KD, Thompson, Curry, Green and were coming off a championship that year so they were able to take a chance on him. Unlike the Warriors we don’t have four all stars so we need so someone who’s dependable and who we can count on to play most of the regular season and the playoffs.

[Mars]

KZ.

[Beenie]

Cousins is a high IQ player who can score at all levels and is an excellent passer. Even if he is a fraction of what he once was, he's still supremely better than Leonard and Olynyk and would likely be much cheaper than either.

Picturing how devastating his screen, hand-off, 2-man game with Duncan would be and how he could just keep his dribble and shoot the 3 or drive into the lane and finish.

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[Miami590]

Wesley Matthews would be a good addition if we’re not able to keep Crowder

[Beenie]

If Crowder is lost, and I suspect that Mia will make a concerted effort to keep him, a player who is cheap and has a similar kind of skillset (to a lesser degree) that they ought to consider taking a flyer on DeAndre Bembry.

Strikes me as a Heat Culture kinda guy.

[insfo]

Cheap replacements likely aren't going to help us get back to the finals, need a trade for a guy like Randle and decent vet signings like DJ Augustine

Randle has 2 years remaining on his contract. Conventional wisdom suggests that he's not good enough for Mia to surrender their 2021 FA plans for.

His teammate Portis, however, has only 1 year left on his contract. Admittedly, I haven't paid enough attention to Portis to know whether or not he would be an adequate defender for Mia, but his offensive skills are solid enough.

hmm, Portis was on the Bulls team where Wade and Butler clashed with some of the younger players. Not sure which side Portis took but something we might want to be wary about.

[insfo]

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Not able to read Sham's actual article on The Atlantic due to their pay wall, so it would be great if someone with a subscription can post if there is anything specific he's referring to or just plain speculation.

Edit: Oops, meant to say The Athletic! - https://theathletic.com/2140002/2020/10/15/nba-free-agency-news-and-rumors-anthony-davis-and-lakers-decisions-heat-contracts-and-more-goran-dragic-news/

[RonaldSeikaly]

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Not able to read Sham's actual article on The Atlantic due to their pay wall, so it would be great if someone with a subscription can post if there is anything specific he's referring to or just plain speculation.

Edit: Oops, meant to say The Athletic! - https://theathletic.com/2140002/2020/10/15/nba-free-agency-news-and-rumors-anthony-davis-and-lakers-decisions-heat-contracts-and-more-goran-dragic-news/

Nothing particularly interesting. We want to resign Goran. Somebody is going to pay DJJ. And rival teams are watching to see if how we handle the Bam extension blows up in our face.


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[insfo]

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Not able to read Sham's actual article on The Atlantic due to their pay wall, so it would be great if someone with a subscription can post if there is anything specific he's referring to or just plain speculation.

Edit: Oops, meant to say The Athletic! - https://theathletic.com/2140002/2020/10/15/nba-free-agency-news-and-rumors-anthony-davis-and-lakers-decisions-heat-contracts-and-more-goran-dragic-news/

Nothing particularly interesting. We want to resign Goran. Somebody is going to pay DJJ. And rival teams are watching to see if how we handle the Bam extension blows up in our face.


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Thank you! So nothing on Giannis/Heat? Wonder what that Bleacher report tweet was about then

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