The Lebron '20 Thread (Pt. 8)

[JVL]

His 2009 seasons

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That spin move power slam at 4mins is just incredible. We don't see him wind up and explode like that anymore.

[yoyoboy]

It’s frustrating how it seems like every time LeBron wins a title, the role players rush to get paid in free agency. Meanwhile in GS they were all happily taking paycuts over there or signing guys for vet minimums who are easily worth more than that.

They have to keep KCP and Rondo. The free agency options are way too limited this year to let those guys go. I’m less worried about Dwight because I don’t think he’ll have the same interest outside of LA.

[MisterHibachi]

It’s frustrating how it seems like every time LeBron wins a title, the role players rush to get paid in free agency. Meanwhile in GS they were all happily taking paycuts over there or signing guys for vet minimums who are easily worth more than that.

They have to keep KCP and Rondo. The free agency options are way too limited this year to let those guys go. I’m less worried about Dwight because I don’t think he’ll have the same interest outside of LA.

I think Shams reported that the Warriors are interested in Dwight.

[yoyoboy]

It’s frustrating how it seems like every time LeBron wins a title, the role players rush to get paid in free agency. Meanwhile in GS they were all happily taking paycuts over there or signing guys for vet minimums who are easily worth more than that.

They have to keep KCP and Rondo. The free agency options are way too limited this year to let those guys go. I’m less worried about Dwight because I don’t think he’ll have the same interest outside of LA.

I think Shams reported that the Warriors are interested in Dwight.

Ah ****. Forgot about them, I could definitely see him going there if they offer him a little more money. They would probably give him the starting role too.

Pelinka has a tough task this offseason.

[dcstanley]

Options are limited so it's in their best interest to keep Rondo but he's probably the biggest regression candidate on the roster. Can't expect him to duplicate his playoff production and I think those great shooting games were flukes.

[trickshot]

It’s frustrating how it seems like every time LeBron wins a title, the role players rush to get paid in free agency. Meanwhile in GS they were all happily taking paycuts over there or signing guys for vet minimums who are easily worth more than that.

They have to keep KCP and Rondo. The free agency options are way too limited this year to let those guys go. I’m less worried about Dwight because I don’t think he’ll have the same interest outside of LA.

Everyone forgets that 2017 team didn't just sign KD, they had Pachulia and West forego fairly significant paydays to sign with them for the minimum. That entire team combined must have taken near a 100m worth of paycuts

[Cavsfansince84]

Another amazing LeBron stat: since he came into the league in 2004 there have been 102 nba player of the month awards given out and LeBron has won that 40 times which is 39% overall. Since the 08 season it becomes 35/78 or 45% of possible times. MJ during his Bulls years for those who are wondering was named nba player of the month 24% of the time he could have been.

[MisterHibachi]

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[Homer38]

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I don't think this is possible

[yoyoboy]

I honestly don't even want Paul tbh. Even if the Lakers can find some way to navigate a trade for him logistically, is it worth having to fill out the rest of the roster with complete garbage? Especially when CP3 is a 35 year old 6 ft PG who should realistically fall off at any moment, and whose value is far more limited on a team where LeBron is the primary playmaker. Plus you're destroying your future cap situation. And the risk-reward in terms of benefit to the team versus LeBron's perceived legacy by adding another star name to his team probably isn't worth it either.

Call me crazy but I would rather have Rondo who in the playoffs gives 70% of what CP3 would give in the same more limited role while probably coming in at less than 20% of the cost. And you don't give the detractors pushing the "LeBron needs a super team" narrative any ammo.

[nzahir]

Really hope we don't lose KCP

We can offer him 1.75x his salary right with early bird rights?

So like 14M?

He won't get more than that on the open market, right?

Would he risk 1 year 14m option? No PO next year, need the cap space and then re sign

[A_Biased_Fan]

Really hope we don't lose KCP

We can offer him 1.75x his salary right with early bird rights?

So like 14M?

He won't get more than that on the open market, right?

Would he risk 1 year 14m option? No PO next year, need the cap space and then re sign

And he better not forget those sweetheart Klutch deals he was getting with the Lakers!

[Cavsfansince84]

I honestly don't even want Paul tbh. Even if the Lakers can find some way to navigate a trade for him logistically, is it worth having to fill out the rest of the roster with complete garbage? Especially when CP3 is a 35 year old 6 ft PG who should realistically fall off at any moment, and whose value is far more limited on a team where LeBron is the primary playmaker. Plus you're destroying your future cap situation. And the risk-reward in terms of benefit to the team versus LeBron's perceived legacy by adding another star name to his team probably isn't worth it either.

Call me crazy but I would rather have Rondo who in the playoffs gives 70% of what CP3 would give in the same more limited role while probably coming in at less than 20% of the cost. And you don't give the detractors pushing the "LeBron needs a super team" narrative any ammo.

I'd agree unless he is going to take a massive pay cut somehow. Its too risky to tie up that much cap with the likelihood he won't be there when you need him the most.

[Mos_Heat]

Really hope we don't lose KCP

We can offer him 1.75x his salary right with early bird rights?

So like 14M?

He won't get more than that on the open market, right?

Would he risk 1 year 14m option? No PO next year, need the cap space and then re sign

Early bird rights for Rondo, full bird rights for KCP

[Mos_Heat]

Etwaun Moore would be a good vet min signing. Versatile shooter and not a complete disaster on defense

[kayess]

Another amazing LeBron stat: since he came into the league in 2004 there have been 102 nba player of the month awards given out and LeBron has won that 40 times which is 39% overall. Since the 08 season it becomes 35/78 or 45% of possible times. MJ during his Bulls years for those who are wondering was named nba player of the month 24% of the time he could have been.

But there's now one for both conferences, so theoretically easier for LeBron to win. If you adjust and say it's 2x easier for Bron to win cause he's competing vs. half the field (and it should be higher cause most of the key talent was out West), Jordan's feat is still more impressive.

Still a great stat though

[D.Brasco]

His 2009 seasons

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That spin move power slam at 4mins is just incredible. We don't see him wind up and explode like that anymore.

2009 LeBron was a beast but as time goes by anyone else starting to not see that as his "peak" anymore? He's added so much to his game and arsenal since then that he's almost a different player. I used to think 2013 was his peak but I feel he added things to his game after that too.

No, he's not as athletics anymore but LeBron stayed in the upper tier of most athletic NBA players for years after 2009.

[kayess]

It’s frustrating how it seems like every time LeBron wins a title, the role players rush to get paid in free agency. Meanwhile in GS they were all happily taking paycuts over there or signing guys for vet minimums who are easily worth more than that.

They have to keep KCP and Rondo. The free agency options are way too limited this year to let those guys go. I’m less worried about Dwight because I don’t think he’ll have the same interest outside of LA.

Hopefully I'm not bordering intot he territory of being too optimistic but:

1) These vets are Ray Allen-esque vets. Have made close to ~100mn in their careers and just want titles... I'd assume Rondo (and to a lesser extent) Dwight fall under this. Rondo's just gonna maximize his last pay day probably, but he seems like he'd love to have another go round. Dwight's more of a wildcard, but he's too important vs. Jokic to let go, and definitely not to a conference rival. Can the Lakers offer him more than anyone else? Not that I think money's going to be the prime factor for him, ofc

2) KCP probably has some agreement with Klutch. Was way overpaid and his salary's been going down...

3) Dudley has said he's coming back, seemed to be an integral part of locker room chemistry (and apparently, breaking down film, calling out plays and rehashing the game plan - won't be as relevant post-bubble, but it somewhat shocked me to hear this from that BS pod with him even though it would've made complete sense)

[tone wone]

Lebron is a 4x champion. At this point you guys should understand the difference between Battier-Chalmers-Tristan-JR level role players and Halslem-Cole-Shumpert-Delly level role players.

The first group were absolutely critical to both regular season success as well as postseason success. Their games help shape those teams identity. Miami and Cleveland don't win titles without those guys. The 2nd group were nice regular season depth who had their moments but were ultimately replaceable.

An honest look at this Lakers roster would reveal only KCP and possibly Caruso worthy of being included with the Battier, Tristan, Rio and JR.

Some of you dudes swore Bradley was super important. Truth is, most of the guys around Lebron and AD are very replaceable. If LA does the smart thing and get a real PG...Rondo becomes even more useless.

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That's my wish list. Every role player other than KCP and Caruso is on table for me. I don't find any of them critical to LA's success. I am not sitting through another year of Rajon Rondo. I won't do it.

[Homer38]

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