Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - OFF SEASON EDITION

[Badgerlander]

Bogdan's not taking minutes from those guys and made more 3s than anybody on our roster last year.

If we are getting Bogdan at the veterans minimum to replace Wes then sure we are adding more ball handling and worse defense. We could have just started Hill at SG though but we didn’t because we lacked depth at PG. Between Bogdans salary and having to trade for him I feel like we are going to give up more depth. So it’s seems likey that Bogdan replaces Hills contributions, probably trade DDV away, and we add more guys like Wes and Pat that can’t dribble for the minimum. Is that a win?

If that's the formulation, I'm not in favor of it. What I'm suggesting is to trade Bled for him, have a stable 3 guard rotation of Hill-Donte-Bogdan with Joseph and Frank for ball handling depth, scooch Wes up to forward, say goodbye to at least 2/3 of Korver/Pat/Sterling. Draft BPA and use FA for other depth -- ideally one of these guys will also be able to handle the ball so you can add a 4th guard and keep Hill down in the low 20s during the regular season, so draft Maledon and sign Millsap and Gabriel, or draft Woodard and sign Melton or Napier, something like that.

Who is our starting PG? Hill?

[soxperry]

Bogdan is significantly better than DDV.

Let's be real here.

Watch him for a minute.

He's a scorer, a shooter, a ballhandler and a great passer.

I'll need to learn more about his defense, but this guy would add a whole new element to our offense and relieve a significant amount of pressure off Khris and Giannis

Watch on YouTube

Sure but DDV is 23 and Bogdan is 28. DDV is a significantly better defender. George Hill can do everything that Bogdan can with better defense so what element is Bogdan adding?

George Hill *could* do *some* of what Bogdan is doing here but back in 2010 not here in 2020

Bogdan is a ballhandler and a playmaker and a shooter and a scorer

Those elements. Those 4 elements in a wing player that this team desperately needs.

Yes, completely agree. Some teams have like 3 of those types of guys. We have zero. We have not a single guy that can beat his man AND be a threat in that in between zone before the help comes..therefore the help doesn't need to overextend, just protect the rim and play smart D and you have the Bucks covered.

I do shudder at the thought of us trying to guard premium ball handlers without Bledsoe, but it's still a road we need to go down because we just saw the same result two playoffs in a row. We cant beat good playoff defense with this offense.

[ShootingtheJ]

If Bogdan gets the quality of looks that Brogdan got and Hill gets, he'll hit half of them.

The offense isn't the problem in Sacramento, never had been. He gets good looks. He has never shown to be a great shooter.

[Badgerlander]

Bogdan is significantly better than DDV.

Let's be real here.

Watch him for a minute.

He's a scorer, a shooter, a ballhandler and a great passer.

I'll need to learn more about his defense, but this guy would add a whole new element to our offense and relieve a significant amount of pressure off Khris and Giannis

Watch on YouTube

Sure but DDV is 23 and Bogdan is 28. DDV is a significantly better defender. George Hill can do everything that Bogdan can with better defense so what element is Bogdan adding?

George Hill *could* do *some* of what Bogdan is doing here but back in 2010 not here in 2020

Bogdan is a ballhandler and a playmaker and a shooter and a scorer

Those elements. Those 4 elements in a wing player that this team desperately needs.

Prime Hill was a way better player than Bogdan and I think he can still do most of it, he’s a physical specimen. Chris Paul is a year older than Hill. I think it’s more coaching and scheme not running pnr. Bledsoe was a decent PnR player before he came to the Bucks too. I like Bogdan and I get the attraction, maybe he can be Korver with handles and if we can get him for very little at a bargain contract because of the cap going down then sure. But at a Fournier contract giving up DDV or a pick no thank you

[ShootingtheJ]

Bogdan is a year older than Fournier, is he a better player? He’s 5 years older than Donte and I’m not even sure that I’d start him over DDV. $17mil?

Bogdan is significantly better than DDV.

Let's be real here.

Watch him for a minute.

He's a scorer, a shooter, a ballhandler and a great passer.

I'll need to learn more about his defense, but this guy would add a whole new element to our offense and relieve a significant amount of pressure off Khris and Giannis

Watch on YouTube

Now put on the highlight package of him versus the Bucks. He's not all that good. There's not a stat to support him being real good in any area. There's not a single all encompassing stat that suggests he's as good as Donte.

Instead of watching a highlight of his career high, watch a full game tape. You'll be severely underwhelmed. He's ok, has some skill, plays smart, but he's just so slow. He can't beat anyone off the dribble. Everything he gets is off a ball screen.

I wouldn't mind him at a bargain price as a reserve wing, but I don't see that happening.

[tski1972]

It all depends on the contract number, if it’s $15M/year I’d consider it, if it’s Brogdon type money forget it.

[Daver]

All these names all these trades n i cant find a majority who likes any of them.
Some of these names its like what we should be trying ro get a #2 star for giannis and some of these names i never heard of other than just depth.
Why not fo balls to the wall forget bogdan forget CP n just trade what you have to to either get beal (theres your #2 ) or holiday n reddick go your defensive PG who actually had a good year last year and reddick your 3 pt sniper just a thought

[MickeyDavis]

A big part of forums like this is proposing possible trades. Sure most of them are unrealistic and some are impossible due to salaries but it's still fun to read through them.

[jschligs]

If Bogdan gets the quality of looks that Brogdan got and Hill gets, he'll hit half of them.

The offense isn't the problem in Sacramento, never had been. He gets good looks. He has never shown to be a great shooter.

I guess I'm confused here, is 37% career 3P% not considered good?

[Turk Nowitzki]

If Bogdan gets the quality of looks that Brogdan got and Hill gets, he'll hit half of them.

The offense isn't the problem in Sacramento, never had been. He gets good looks. He has never shown to be a great shooter.

Wait, what?

[Fotis St]

Why are you concerned not to trade DDV ?

There is no future without Giannis and there is no time to wait for him to ever hit his 3pt shots.

I hope Bucks understand that this is Giannis last year of his contract.

I am sure he is bored of the unathleticism he is surrounded among with vets chocking along with his stubborn coach and coaching staff when it matters most

All pieces on the table ... just hire Daryl Morey as our GM ... I am sure he will sell all our Defensive All Team pretty expensive

[tski1972]

If Bogdan gets the quality of looks that Brogdan got and Hill gets, he'll hit half of them.

The offense isn't the problem in Sacramento, never had been. He gets good looks. He has never shown to be a great shooter.

I guess I'm confused here, is 37% career 3P% not considered good?

NBA average is 36%, so technically I guess it’s good, but realistically it’s average.

[pifhluk23]

Over the last 30 years how many teams have won a chip without having 2 top 100 players of all time??? Off the top of my head all I can think of is Dirks crazy post season and Duncan.

[Frank Nova]

Wasn’t it already reported that Sacto plans to match any offer sheet for Bogdan? Or was that Vlade and Peja before they bounced? I guess Dumars being in charge anything is possible but I still don’t see any realistic way we can get him.

[ShootingtheJ]

If Bogdan gets the quality of looks that Brogdan got and Hill gets, he'll hit half of them.

The offense isn't the problem in Sacramento, never had been. He gets good looks. He has never shown to be a great shooter.

I guess I'm confused here, is 37% career 3P% not considered good?

So I say "great", and your reaction is, how dare you say that isn't "good"! You know those 2 words have different meanings, right?

As I said in another post, Bogdan is a similar 3 point shooter to Wes Mathews. I don't think anyone calls him a great shooter.

Bogdan doesn't shoot like Khris, or other great shooters. He doesn't shoot like his teammate, Bjelica. He's the player we should be targeting, he addresses a major need, and would be easier to acquire.

[Ron Swanson]

Unless you think Kyle Lowry is easily a Top-100 player in the history of basketball (I certainly don't), it happened just last season.

[har13]

Do people think a schroder, bogdan pairing makes us significantly improved? I’m asking because I think we would have the assets likely to pull both deals off.

If we add a scorer off the bench and a 40%+ 3 point shooter also for sure, wasn't our only problem the starting 5...

[emunney]

Wasn’t it already reported that Sacto plans to match any offer sheet for Bogdan? Or was that Vlade and Peja before they bounced? I guess Dumars being in charge anything is possible but I still don’t see any realistic way we can get him.

If it's out there that we're interested, my guess is Horst and Dumars have already talked about it.

[LuessiT]

Wasn’t it already reported that Sacto plans to match any offer sheet for Bogdan? Or was that Vlade and Peja before they bounced? I guess Dumars being in charge anything is possible but I still don’t see any realistic way we can get him.

When stuff like this gets reported it's because they want it reported. Wether they'll end up doing is another matter entirely.

[Chuck Diesel]

Wasn’t it already reported that Sacto plans to match any offer sheet for Bogdan? Or was that Vlade and Peja before they bounced? I guess Dumars being in charge anything is possible but I still don’t see any realistic way we can get him.

If it's out there that we're interested, my guess is Horst and Dumars have already talked about it.

Or Lasry and Vivek