Who's the G.O.A.T. ?

[Buckets22]

[illuminati666]

Oh my... if lebron even comes close to winning this, I might have to switch websites lol.

deuces

[xxSnEaKyPxx]

This forum would be 1,000,000,000,000,000 times better if we just permanently banned anyone who ever says GOAT again.

[balrog27]

Wasn't KAJ the consensus goat on this board a few years ago?

[cycl0nus]

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this. where tf has this op been??????????????

[Tor_Raps]

Oh my... if lebron even comes close to winning this, I might have to switch websites lol.

deuces

But I was told that him forming a super team in Miami would make his legacy a joke and that those rings wouldn't count.

Guess Durant should have just stayed in Golden State and become the "GOAT" that way since all that stuff becomes irrelevant after a few years...

[Kingsway_fan]

There is WILT.... Then the rest.....

Still holder of 72 nba records... 68 individual....

[illuminati666]

Oh my... if lebron even comes close to winning this, I might have to switch websites lol.

deuces

But I was told that him forming a super team in Miami would make his legacy a joke and that those rings wouldn't count.

Guess Durant should have just stayed in Golden State and become the "GOAT" that way since all that stuff becomes irrelevant after a few years...

Was a completely different move with completely different ramifications

[dynamic duo]

You conveniently forgot this.

clear-cut best player in the finals 8 times (10 total) in a more talented league > 6 rings/fmvps in the 90s and does context matter with rings or not? irving/love don't go down in 2015 and the best regular season of all-time in 73-9 warriors don't sign another mvp due to cap spike, are we talking 7 rings now? 6 rangz though.

mvps, voter fatigue/narratives play huge part here so this could easily be 5-5, 6-6, 6-5 etc.

dpoy, meh... lebron was robbed of one in 2013.

scoring/assists champ, lebron does both at higher level.

lebron had the higher peak and it's not even close longevity wise.

[Tor_Raps]

deuces

But I was told that him forming a super team in Miami would make his legacy a joke and that those rings wouldn't count.

Guess Durant should have just stayed in Golden State and become the "GOAT" that way since all that stuff becomes irrelevant after a few years...

Was a completely different move with completely different ramifications

or so you say. Just because Durant wimped out more doesn't mean Lebron wasn't a wimp himself in the grand scheme of things...

[Drygon]

*260 playoff games.

lebron has now been the clear-cut best player in the finals 8 times and is still the best in the world in his 17th/18th season, east... west... don't matter, lebron is a one man dynasty.

By this logic, Karl Malone > Lebron

[KyRo23]

*260 playoff games.

lebron has now been the clear-cut best player in the finals 8 times and is still the best in the world in his 17th/18th season, east... west... don't matter, lebron is a one man dynasty.

By this logic, Karl Malone > Lebron

To be fair, you need a mix of rings and career accomplishments. Malone doesn't have the first part lol

Also, LeBron's career is not done and he should pass Malone in some of those categories.

[twyzted]

*260 playoff games.

lebron has now been the clear-cut best player in the finals 8 times and is still the best in the world in his 17th/18th season, east... west... don't matter, lebron is a one man dynasty.

By this logic, Karl Malone > Lebron

Also 07 finals not the best.
11 he was not even the best in his team.
17 got man handled by durant.
18 got sweept
20 butler by himself won 2 games with rookies. And was the best player in the finals.
So he been arguably the best in the other 6.
There was no question who was the best from 88-98

[Wile E. Coyote]

This is a lot closer than I anticipated.

[fianchetto]

*260 playoff games.

lebron has now been the clear-cut best player in the finals 8 times and is still the best in the world in his 17th/18th season, east... west... don't matter, lebron is a one man dynasty.

By this logic, Karl Malone > Lebron

To be fair, you need a mix of rings and career accomplishments. Malone doesn't have the first part lol

Also, LeBron's career is not done and he should pass Malone in some of those categories.

Yeah I think we can all agree cumulative stats aren't a good indication of skill, peak, and playoff performance, but they are an indication of body of work. And in THIS particular debate, body of work is super important.

[Repeat 3-peat]

This is a lot closer than I anticipated.

Well Lebron did inch himself closer in the conversation, and it hasn't even been a week since he won his 4th chip.

[Stillwater]

can tell its the offseason again smh
who the f cares what you think or they think or I think about greatest of anything conversations etc
its all garbage stat arguments

[Magic Is Magic]

*260 playoff games.

lebron has now been the clear-cut best player in the finals 8 times and is still the best in the world in his 17th/18th season, east... west... don't matter, lebron is a one man dynasty.

By this logic, Karl Malone > Lebron

Also 07 finals not the best.
11 he was not even the best in his team.
17 got man handled by durant.
18 got sweept
20 butler by himself won 2 games with rookies. And was the best player in the finals.
So he been arguably the best in the other 6.
There was no question who was the best from 88-98

You're a funny fellow and the more I post on this website the more I realize his. You said "17 got man handled by durant."

I'm not sure if people remember but LeBron is the only reason the Warriors didn't go 16-0 that year. They went 15-1. 12-0 swept the West outright. LeBron was able to grab one win against one of the greatest teams in NBA history, something no other Western team could do in the previous 3 playoff series. Moreover, LeBron played incredible in that 2017 Finals, with 34-12-10 on 56%. LeBron was hardly "man handled" if anything he stopped the whole "16-0" run that no other team could do, even with 12 tries.

[jc23]

just wait until the next generations MJ or lebron comes around, oh the fun realGM will have.

[KawhiSoSerious]

Finally!! Someone has the pumpkins to ask the important question.