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Juco24 wrote:Anyone here hearing the rumor about Knox/8 to the Bulls for #4 and Porter?
Worst_to_First wrote:knickstape4ever wrote:Oscirus wrote:Also can analysts stop trying to get lamelo to us at the expense of our future. It would be a bad pick even if we won the lottery. Go find some other big market team to get him and foh with all that.
tbh, I think what ESPN proposed was pretty fair. #8 + Dallas 2021 pick, which is more likely than not going to be in the 20's. 2021 is a deep draft, yes, but if they're that sold on Ball, a mid to late 1st shouldn't stop them
I don’t want to underestimate Luka and Carlisle but the West is going to be ultra competitive next season plus the Mavs are likely to save its cap space for 2021. There is a chance that pick will be better than in the 20’s. Won’t be surprised if it will be in the lottery.
knickstape4ever wrote:Worst_to_First wrote:knickstape4ever wrote:
tbh, I think what ESPN proposed was pretty fair. #8 + Dallas 2021 pick, which is more likely than not going to be in the 20's. 2021 is a deep draft, yes, but if they're that sold on Ball, a mid to late 1st shouldn't stop them
I don’t want to underestimate Luka and Carlisle but the West is going to be ultra competitive next season plus the Mavs are likely to save its cap space for 2021. There is a chance that pick will be better than in the 20’s. Won’t be surprised if it will be in the lottery.
agreed, the West will be ridiculously tough. Lakers, Clippers, Warriors, Nuggets, Rockets, Jazz are basically virtual locks for the playoffs leaving the Mavs, Blazers, Pelicans, Suns and others competing for the last 2 spots.
so yeah, it's not unreasonable to think that it could end up being a lottery pick, but that still is a big if. it's still more likely the pick is mid-late 1st round than lottery and if the Knicks are sold that Ball can be a star, than I think you have to consider it
also the Knicks could add a protection to the Dallas pick, in the case that Doncic does get hurt. a comparison would be what Atlanta/Dallas did in 2018. Dallas protected their 2019 pick top-5
Capn'O wrote:knickstape21 wrote:?s=21
He intrigues me. Won't question it if we stand pat.
Worst_to_First wrote:Juco24 wrote:Anyone here hearing the rumor about Knox/8 to the Bulls for #4 and Porter?
Unless the Bulls are bleeding for money I think only way they do this is to create cap space to sign AD, a dream that had already been quashed.
But if it will only take Knox and cap space to move up to 4 I will explore using that pick to further trade up to 1 or 2 without sacrificing Mitch.
Infinitimind wrote:Capn'O wrote:knickstape21 wrote:?s=21
He intrigues me. Won't question it if we stand pat.
He super talented, he should be the pick. With good development and coaching he can be special.
Juco24 wrote:Infinitimind wrote:Capn'O wrote:
He intrigues me. Won't question it if we stand pat.
He super talented, he should be the pick. With good development and coaching he can be special.
Can lightning strike twice?!?! I've read comparisons to Mr Butler (Jimmy)
Juco24 wrote:Anyone here hearing the rumor about Knox/8 to the Bulls for #4 and Porter?
DaT WaVeY RiCaN wrote:Juco24 wrote:DaT WaVeY RiCaN wrote:Yeah sounds way to good to be true lol. Who is even the source?
Dude is a Bulls fan and stated that the rumor has been circulating for a while. I don't believe it but wanted to see if anyone here heard it.
If we do get 4th. We should be all in on Obi or Killian then
?newyorker4ever wrote:Juco24 wrote:Anyone here hearing the rumor about Knox/8 to the Bulls for #4 and Porter?
Nope, only you.
stuporman wrote:8 and Knox for 4?...um ok
For all you Bulls fans reading here about this I can say Knox is a much better shooter than his %s said last year not sure if was too few mins or not a defined role and he hasn't finished maturing in his body, still had puppy feet last year.
That could be taken care of by either a top 5 protection or a Knicks or Mavs pick whichever is worse.mpharris36 wrote:not rading a 2021 pick to move up. Dallas is one luka injury from being a high lottery team. No way in hell to you give that up for not a sure thing.
He has limited to no upside. If you want that might as well sign someone Iike Aron Baynes.knickstape4ever wrote:if they're gonna take a backup C my choice would be Xavier Tillman
-High IQ
-great motor player
-protects the rim
-great passer
-can shoot a bit
Zenzibar wrote:This is how this rumor started.
https://www.nbaanalysis.net/2020/10/16/this-bulls-knicks-draft-night-trade-would-send-kevin-knox-to-chicago/
This Bulls-Knicks draft night trade would send Kevin Knox to Chicago
October 16, 2020 Jake Rogers Atlantic Division, Central Division, Chicago Bulls, New York Knicks 0
Kevin Knox, Knicks, Bulls
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The Chicago Bulls and New York Knicks are both in similar positions this offseason. After missing the playoffs once again, both franchises are looking to make a move or two that can put them back on the map when it comes to the playoff conversation. Kevin Knox could be a part of those plans for both teams.
Yes, that’s right, the Bulls and Knicks should consider talking about a potential trade that would send Knox to Chicago. He is a good young talent, but the Knicks need to make some aggressive moves. Moving up in the 2020 NBA Draft could be one of those moves.
Knox put together a rough second season with the Knicks. He averaged 6.4 points, 2.8 rebounds, and 0.9 assists. None of those numbers were what New York was hoping to see from him.
Shipping him off to the Bulls in a deal that brings in the No. 4 overall pick could make sense for the Knicks. Knox doesn’t seem to be a great fit in New York, but he is obviously a talented player. Perhaps he could turn things around with the Bulls.
All of that being said, let’s dive in and take a look at a potential trade that would send Kevin Knox from the Knicks to the Bulls.
This is doesn't even qualify as a "rumor", but a weak attempt at a "what-if" draft night trade.
moocow007 wrote:That could be taken care of by either a top 5 protection or a Knicks or Mavs pick whichever is worse.mpharris36 wrote:not rading a 2021 pick to move up. Dallas is one luka injury from being a high lottery team. No way in hell to you give that up for not a sure thing.
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I'd take Avdija over either Hayes or Toppin at 4 assuming Ball, Edwards and Wiseman are gone. Otherwise its whichever one of those 3 that fall.DaT WaVeY RiCaN wrote:Juco24 wrote:DaT WaVeY RiCaN wrote:Yeah sounds way to good to be true lol. Who is even the source?
Dude is a Bulls fan and stated that the rumor has been circulating for a while. I don't believe it but wanted to see if anyone here heard it.
If we do get 4th. We should be all in on Obi or Killian then
moocow007 wrote:He has limited to no upside. If you want that might as well sign someone Iike Aron Baynes.knickstape4ever wrote:if they're gonna take a backup C my choice would be Xavier Tillman
-High IQ
-great motor player
-protects the rim
-great passer
-can shoot a bit
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Porters owed $28 million this upcoming season. Thats a lot of financial savings for the Bulls. I like Porter but I can't see any other team taking him so the Knicks have some significant leverage. 8 and Knox for 4 ok. 8 and Knox for 4 and Porters contract? Hmmm... I'm don't hate Knox as most of the guys here so I don't think that Knox is poo (I actually think he has positive value still)...and apparently both the Bulls and the Thunder agree. Knicks should get something else (like a pic swap option in 2021) to take that $28 million on in this economic climate and whatever or whomever the Bulls use that sudden mega capspace on.Juco24 wrote:DaT WaVeY RiCaN wrote:Deeeez Knicks wrote:
That has to be too good to be true
Yeah sounds way to good to be true lol. Who is even the source?
Dude is a Bulls fan and stated that the rumor has been circulating for a while. I don't believe it but wanted to see if anyone here heard it.