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Re: NBA executives reportedly think the Lakers will try to trade for Chris Paul 

Post#21 » by donnieme » Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:07 am

Lakers have all these free agents they'd have to convince to opt-in/re-sign just to be used as salary filler. Not happening when they could just hit the market and choose where they end up. Lakers trade proposals/rumours rarely seem to make sense
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Post#23 » by Greyhound » Sat Oct 17, 2020 12:23 pm

This is fake news aimed at creating unrest amongst some of the pending Lakers free agents.

The Lakers would be the dumbest team ever to ship off so many useful role players for a rich mans Rondo. Particularly when you can bring back playoff Rondo at a more affordable cost (holding his early bird rights).

This is just Laughable. Anonymous league exec needs to take a long walk down a sort cliff.

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Post#24 » by nedleeds » Sat Oct 17, 2020 2:07 pm

Dr Aki wrote:zero chance unless there's a buyout

zero chance theres a buyout until his last year.
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Post#25 » by zimpy27 » Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:30 pm

Dr Aki wrote:zero chance unless there's a buyout

I give it a chance with a KCP signed and traded. You are the master of the cap. Can KCP be given a 2 year 47m contract, which then can be traded with McGee, Kuzma and pick 28 player (10m)?
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Post#26 » by Woodsanity » Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:40 pm

Don't see a realistic way to make the salaries work. Would give up half the roster which isn't good.
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Post#27 » by lamscott » Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:44 pm

What? With what money? Lol. This is crazy.

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Post#28 » by Texas Chuck » Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:52 pm

Slava wrote:There's no place to fill the roster with that kind of salary added to two max players who are already there. Only way Paul comes to LA is with a significant buyout or in free agency.



I think there is a very easy path that doesn't cost the Lakers all their depth. Hawks have interest in KCP as they are desperate for more veteran wing help. A S&T with only the 1st year gtd(or maybe even 2) for a big number to the Hawks with the Lakers sending the Hawks a couple 2nds for making it a S&T to help the Lakers rather than just signing him outright and then Danny Green going to the Thunder. Thunder then send back cheap Nader along with Paul. Heck the Hawks would probably take Green too if OKC doesn't want him.

It's really easy and KCP being a Rich Paul client makes it easier.

Now this sucks as a fan of a team in the West because now nobody's challenging the Lakers, but the machinations are trivial.
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Re: NBA executives reportedly think the Lakers will try to trade for Chris Paul 

Post#29 » by Kingdibs19 » Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:14 pm

No go on trading Caruso. Id trade everyone on the team for CP3 outside of the bald eagle, KCP and the big 2
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Slava wrote:There's no place to fill the roster with that kind of salary added to two max players who are already there. Only way Paul comes to LA is with a significant buyout or in free agency.



I think there is a very easy path that doesn't cost the Lakers all their depth. Hawks have interest in KCP as they are desperate for more veteran wing help. A S&T with only the 1st year gtd(or maybe even 2) for a big number to the Hawks with the Lakers sending the Hawks a couple 2nds for making it a S&T to help the Lakers rather than just signing him outright and then Danny Green going to the Thunder. Thunder then send back cheap Nader along with Paul. Heck the Hawks would probably take Green too if OKC doesn't want him.

It's really easy and KCP being a Rich Paul client makes it easier.

Now this sucks as a fan of a team in the West because now nobody's challenging the Lakers, but the machinations are trivial.


I agree though I think Lakers rather keep Green and move KCP (23.5m) + McGee (4.2m) + Kuzma (3.5m) + Pick 28 (2.1m) = 33.3m
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Re: NBA executives reportedly think the Lakers will try to trade for Chris Paul 

Post#31 » by Dr Aki » Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:24 pm

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Dr Aki wrote:zero chance unless there's a buyout

I give it a chance with a KCP signed and traded. You are the master of the cap. Can KCP be given a 2 year 47m contract, which then can be traded with McGee, Kuzma and pick 28 player (10m)?


participating in a S&T would hard cap the lakers at the apron

i don't think that's something the lakers want or need
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Re: NBA executives reportedly think the Lakers will try to trade for Chris Paul 

Post#32 » by Texas Chuck » Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:25 pm

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Texas Chuck wrote:
Slava wrote:There's no place to fill the roster with that kind of salary added to two max players who are already there. Only way Paul comes to LA is with a significant buyout or in free agency.



I think there is a very easy path that doesn't cost the Lakers all their depth. Hawks have interest in KCP as they are desperate for more veteran wing help. A S&T with only the 1st year gtd(or maybe even 2) for a big number to the Hawks with the Lakers sending the Hawks a couple 2nds for making it a S&T to help the Lakers rather than just signing him outright and then Danny Green going to the Thunder. Thunder then send back cheap Nader along with Paul. Heck the Hawks would probably take Green too if OKC doesn't want him.

It's really easy and KCP being a Rich Paul client makes it easier.

Now this sucks as a fan of a team in the West because now nobody's challenging the Lakers, but the machinations are trivial.


I agree though I think Lakers rather keep Green and move KCP (23.5m) + McGee (4.2m) + Kuzma (3.5m) + Pick 28 (2.1m) = 33.3m


Yeah maybe. I don't know what the ultimate budget is for the Lakers and if they would be willing to pay Paul and Green. And frankly as much as I can't believe we are here--Kuzma might project to be a better player than Green next year.
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Re: NBA executives reportedly think the Lakers will try to trade for Chris Paul 

Post#33 » by MotownMadness » Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:25 pm

zimpy27 wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:
Slava wrote:There's no place to fill the roster with that kind of salary added to two max players who are already there. Only way Paul comes to LA is with a significant buyout or in free agency.



I think there is a very easy path that doesn't cost the Lakers all their depth. Hawks have interest in KCP as they are desperate for more veteran wing help. A S&T with only the 1st year gtd(or maybe even 2) for a big number to the Hawks with the Lakers sending the Hawks a couple 2nds for making it a S&T to help the Lakers rather than just signing him outright and then Danny Green going to the Thunder. Thunder then send back cheap Nader along with Paul. Heck the Hawks would probably take Green too if OKC doesn't want him.

It's really easy and KCP being a Rich Paul client makes it easier.

Now this sucks as a fan of a team in the West because now nobody's challenging the Lakers, but the machinations are trivial.


I agree though I think Lakers rather keep Green and move KCP (23.5m) + McGee (4.2m) + Kuzma (3.5m) + Pick 28 (2.1m) = 33.3m

Damn, you guys are actually making this sound pretty realistic. I would think Kuzma and 28 is a good deal as the core pieces back for OKC for CP3 at this point. Then the KCP part shouldn't be a problem to work out.
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Re: NBA executives reportedly think the Lakers will try to trade for Chris Paul 

Post#34 » by zimpy27 » Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:44 pm

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zimpy27 wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:

I think there is a very easy path that doesn't cost the Lakers all their depth. Hawks have interest in KCP as they are desperate for more veteran wing help. A S&T with only the 1st year gtd(or maybe even 2) for a big number to the Hawks with the Lakers sending the Hawks a couple 2nds for making it a S&T to help the Lakers rather than just signing him outright and then Danny Green going to the Thunder. Thunder then send back cheap Nader along with Paul. Heck the Hawks would probably take Green too if OKC doesn't want him.

It's really easy and KCP being a Rich Paul client makes it easier.

Now this sucks as a fan of a team in the West because now nobody's challenging the Lakers, but the machinations are trivial.


I agree though I think Lakers rather keep Green and move KCP (23.5m) + McGee (4.2m) + Kuzma (3.5m) + Pick 28 (2.1m) = 33.3m

Damn, you guys are actually making this sound pretty realistic. I would think Kuzma and 28 is a good deal as the core pieces back for OKC for CP3 at this point. Then the KCP part shouldn't be a problem to work out.


It's possible but probably not realistic. The hard cap would be a big issue for the Lakers, especially coming into a year where salary cap could be much lower than expected.

I think CP3 will be a 76er.
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Post#35 » by Texas Chuck » Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:45 pm

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I agree though I think Lakers rather keep Green and move KCP (23.5m) + McGee (4.2m) + Kuzma (3.5m) + Pick 28 (2.1m) = 33.3m

Damn, you guys are actually making this sound pretty realistic. I would think Kuzma and 28 is a good deal as the core pieces back for OKC for CP3 at this point. Then the KCP part shouldn't be a problem to work out.


It's possible but probably not realistic. The hard cap would be a big issue for the Lakers, especially coming into a year where salary cap could be much lower than expected.

I think CP3 will be a 76er.



Lakers wouldn't be hard-capped in this situation fwiw.
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Post#36 » by zimpy27 » Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:52 pm

Dr Aki wrote:
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Dr Aki wrote:zero chance unless there's a buyout

I give it a chance with a KCP signed and traded. You are the master of the cap. Can KCP be given a 2 year 47m contract, which then can be traded with McGee, Kuzma and pick 28 player (10m)?


participating in a S&T would hard cap the lakers at the apron

i don't think that's something the lakers want or need


Yes but what if KCP was signed, wait a couple months, then traded?
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Texas Chuck wrote:
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MotownMadness wrote: Damn, you guys are actually making this sound pretty realistic. I would think Kuzma and 28 is a good deal as the core pieces back for OKC for CP3 at this point. Then the KCP part shouldn't be a problem to work out.


It's possible but probably not realistic. The hard cap would be a big issue for the Lakers, especially coming into a year where salary cap could be much lower than expected.

I think CP3 will be a 76er.



Lakers wouldn't be hard-capped in this situation fwiw.


Really? Why not?
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Post#38 » by Texas Chuck » Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:54 pm

zimpy27 wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:
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It's possible but probably not realistic. The hard cap would be a big issue for the Lakers, especially coming into a year where salary cap could be much lower than expected.

I think CP3 will be a 76er.



Lakers wouldn't be hard-capped in this situation fwiw.


Really? Why not?


Hard cap is triggered by using the full non-taxpayer MLE or taking a player back in S&T neither of which happened here.
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Post#39 » by Dr Aki » Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:55 pm

zimpy27 wrote:
Dr Aki wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:I give it a chance with a KCP signed and traded. You are the master of the cap. Can KCP be given a 2 year 47m contract, which then can be traded with McGee, Kuzma and pick 28 player (10m)?


participating in a S&T would hard cap the lakers at the apron

i don't think that's something the lakers want or need


Yes but what if KCP was signed, wait a couple months, then traded?


Sure, whatever the date to trade them is.

However, if the Lakers had already used the NTMLE and BAE, they would've have committed to hard cap themselves at the apron.

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q20

The transactions listed above are reserved for teams that are below the Apron. This applies to the entire season in which one of these exceptions is used -- for example, if a team is below the Apron and utilizes its Bi-Annual exception, it commits itself to remaining below the Apron for the remainder of that season (through the following June 30).

In other words, when a team is below the Apron and uses its Bi-Annual exception, receives a player who is signed-and-traded, or uses its Mid-Level exception to sign a player to a contract larger than allowed by the Taxpayer Mid-Level exception, the team becomes hard-capped at the Apron for the remainder of that season. This eliminates any potential loophole where a team could first use one of these exceptions and subsequently add salary to go above the Apron, since the reverse -- adding salary first and then using the exception -- would be illegal.
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Post#40 » by Dr Aki » Sat Oct 17, 2020 5:06 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:

Lakers wouldn't be hard-capped in this situation fwiw.


Really? Why not?


Hard cap is triggered by using the full non-taxpayer MLE or taking a player back in S&T neither of which happened here.


It's also triggered by using the BAE

You can pretty much bet the Lakers will be using the BAE and NTMLE during the off-season.

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