Capn'O wrote:Context wrote:Now I can speak freely...
The Knicks need to get LaMelo Ball. Period.
Killian!
I know Cap...thats your favorite but:
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Capn'O wrote:Context wrote:Now I can speak freely...
The Knicks need to get LaMelo Ball. Period.
Killian!
Juco24 wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:Vassell got the Rafiki jumper
DAMN!
Context wrote:Capn'O wrote:Context wrote:Now I can speak freely...
The Knicks need to get LaMelo Ball. Period.
Killian!
I know Cap...thats your favorite but:Spoiler:Spoiler:
robillionaire wrote:Conspiracy theory the knicks made him (vassell) a promise and he’s doing his part to make sure nobody else drafts him because he wants to be in NY
Capn'O wrote:
I honestly haven't looked at Ball much as I wasn't in range and then moved the pick. Some of the concerns with him are typical no-goes for me but I also know he has some transformational skills. KH is more rounded but maybe not with the ceiling?
Capn'O wrote:Context wrote:Capn'O wrote:
Killian!
I know Cap...thats your favorite but:Spoiler:Spoiler:
I honestly haven't looked at Ball much as I wasn't in range and then moved the pick. Some of the concerns with him are typical no-goes for me but I also know he has some transformational skills. KH is more rounded but maybe not with the ceiling?
Juco24 wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:Juco24 wrote:If you guys go back and look at the video FN11 shared, the guy said something about Vassell that I didn't know/realize. He said "When Vassell shoots from that deep, he ALWAYS cocks it back- even when he was @ FSU. It's his deeper than the 3pt line shot."
I went back and looked at the video and sure enough Vassell was much deeper than @ the 3 line. Is this actually true? No clue - as I couldn't find any clips of Vassell in a game shooting that deep. Will say this though: That makes a helluva lot more sense!
Vassell is back as my top selection (if we stay @ 8)
Not true. Ive never seen him shoot it from behind the head like that ever.
Look how far he's behind the 3 point line... that was this guy's point.... that shot on the video going around is the same shot Vassell has always been taking... WHEN HE'S SHOOTING WELL BEYOND THE 3 LINE and that his form has NOT changed when shooting AT THE 3PT LINE.
Again I couldn't find anything to confirm what this guy stated
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Manhattan Project wrote:NoDopeOnSundays wrote:This is damage control, they were not messing around there and you can clearly see he's serious in the video.
It very well could be, but I'll be damned if I let a random 20 second clip on the internet discourage his entire career. I'm sure NBA teams are going to know better than us. Even with the release I'd take him if we stay at 8 without a problem.
His shot mechanics in college looked like someone who doesn't have the strength to shoot the NBA three reliably, that video was him shooting from NBA distance and having to use a new form to get the ball to the hoop. They deleted it cause they knew how bad it was and are now trying to spin the damage control.
With that release he won't ever be a good shooter, there's too many moving parts in addition to having to jump so much. If you take him 8 and he failts to be a 38-41% three point shooter it would be a disaster because he has very little to offer on offense outside of the potential to shoot. He's not worth the risk, his freethrow percentage and this video in general should be a massive red flag.
aggo wrote:The greatest mystery in sports is how people can watch NBA all day and come away convinced Lamelo Ball is
1/ the best prospect in this draft
2/ anyone "needs" him so badly
can't defend, can't hang and bang at the rim, isn't explosive, can't shoot.
By the way, did we mention hes supposed to play PG? LOL
Context wrote:aggo wrote:The greatest mystery in sports is how people can watch NBA all day and come away convinced Lamelo Ball is
1/ the best prospect in this draft
2/ anyone "needs" him so badly
can't defend, can't hang and bang at the rim, isn't explosive, can't shoot.
By the way, did we mention hes supposed to play PG? LOL
i want to know one thing- if ball becomes that franchise player- what will you come on this forum and write?
aggo wrote:Context wrote:aggo wrote:The greatest mystery in sports is how people can watch NBA all day and come away convinced Lamelo Ball is
1/ the best prospect in this draft
2/ anyone "needs" him so badly
can't defend, can't hang and bang at the rim, isn't explosive, can't shoot.
By the way, did we mention hes supposed to play PG? LOL
i want to know one thing- if ball becomes that franchise player- what will you come on this forum and write?
Nothing, I saw the tape. He could always reach his max potential, which is basically Simmons, but what's his floor?
What's the most likely outcome of a PG that probably shoots 25% from three between years 1-3 in the league?
Context wrote:aggo wrote:Context wrote:i want to know one thing- if ball becomes that franchise player- what will you come on this forum and write?
Nothing, I saw the tape. He could always reach his max potential, which is basically Simmons, but what's his floor?
What's the most likely outcome of a PG that probably shoots 25% from three between years 1-3 in the league?
can Simmons even make a 2?
KnicksGadfly wrote:Context wrote:aggo wrote:
Nothing, I saw the tape. He could always reach his max potential, which is basically Simmons, but what's his floor?
What's the most likely outcome of a PG that probably shoots 25% from three between years 1-3 in the league?
can Simmons even make a 2?
Lol I have the same questions about Lamelo, but when it comes to Simmons, at least I know I’ll get 15 a game efficiently from him as well as great defense.
robillionaire wrote:KnicksGadfly wrote:Context wrote:can Simmons even make a 2?
Lol I have the same questions about Lamelo, but when it comes to Simmons, at least I know I’ll get 15 a game efficiently from him as well as great defense.
sure, and ben simmons is a perennial all star. and was the 1st pick. are we supposed to be upset about this
lamelo will likely make more 3s in his first nba game than ben simmons has made in his career. quote it and sig it. it's a terrible comparison. ben simmons is afraid to even shoot
and yes lamelo is a better passer
Context wrote:Capn'O wrote:Context wrote:Now I can speak freely...
The Knicks need to get LaMelo Ball. Period.
Killian!
I know Cap...thats your favorite but:Spoiler:Spoiler:
RHODEY wrote:Context wrote:Capn'O wrote:
Killian!
I know Cap...thats your favorite but:Spoiler:Spoiler: