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Re: OT Bears 2019/20 season 

Post#1021 » by the ultimates » Mon Oct 19, 2020 1:45 am

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We won’t get bounced in the first playoff game if it’s against the winner of the NFC East. We all know that the Bears are a flawed team, but Foles has performed in the playoffs before.


Is Pederson going to call plays? Will the Bears get that Eagles offensive line? Foles had a nice hot streak he's never been able to replicate again. Has Foles looked anything close to that here or in Jacksonville?


He's 3-1 with a W over the GOAT and one of the greatest 4th quarter comebacks in the history of the franchise.

Foles literally beat us in the playoffs the next year and was an Alshon tipped INT away from going to the NFC Championship.


Again that's what he did in the past with a better coach and better pieces surrounding him. If you want to play the if game yes he was an Alshon tipped ball away from the NFC championship he was also a Parkey field goal away from losing to Trubisky and the Bears.

Have you seen anything from Foles since he's been here or last season in Jacksonville that says he close to or can rekindle that 2017 form?
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Re: OT Bears 2019/20 season 

Post#1022 » by NZB2323 » Mon Oct 19, 2020 1:54 am

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the ultimates wrote:I'm glad the Bears are 5-1 but with the way, the offense is playing their a team ripe to get bounced in their first playoff game. You can't expect the defense to constantly create short field turnovers to help the offense score like we saw the last two weeks.

The offense doesn't look better or more cohesive with Foles. I'm still waiting to see what Foles supposedly brings to it Yes, he'll make an occasional throw and read Trubisky won't but Foles doesn't do it consistently enough and leaves the same plays on the field Mitch did.

Nagy has gone back almost exclusively to inside zone runs which even back in 2018 when the line was solid they didn't block well. Nagy brought in a new offensive line coach, quarterback coach, and offensive coordinator. It's time he swallows his pride and gives up playcalling.


We won’t get bounced in the first playoff game if it’s against the winner of the NFC East. We all know that the Bears are a flawed team, but Foles has performed in the playoffs before.


Is Pederson going to call plays? Will the Bears get that Eagles offensive line? Foles had a nice hot streak he's never been able to replicate again. Has Foles looked anything close to that here or in Jacksonville?


In Football all you need is a nice little hot streak.

In 2007 Eli Manning had a regular season rating of 73.9 and a playoff rating of 95.7.
In 2011 Eli Manning had a regular season rating of 92.9 and a playoff rating of 103.3
In 2012 Joe Falcco had a regular season rating of 87.7 and a playoff rating of 117.2.
In 2017 Nick Foles had a regular season rating of 79.5 and a playoff rating of 115.7.
In 2020 Nick Foles has a regular season rating of 83.9.
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Re: OT Bears 2019/20 season 

Post#1023 » by Susan » Mon Oct 19, 2020 1:57 am

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Is Pederson going to call plays? Will the Bears get that Eagles offensive line? Foles had a nice hot streak he's never been able to replicate again. Has Foles looked anything close to that here or in Jacksonville?


He's 3-1 with a W over the GOAT

fun fact: brady outplayed foles in that game. and well outplayed him in the super bowl


Khalil Mack outplayed TB12 if we're just gonna state random junk.

Rams are trash. I just realized that their only wins are over the NFC East.

The Bears would truly have to have an insane collapse to not make the playoffs this year.
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Re: OT Bears 2019/20 season 

Post#1024 » by Susan » Mon Oct 19, 2020 2:00 am

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Susan wrote:
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Is Pederson going to call plays? Will the Bears get that Eagles offensive line? Foles had a nice hot streak he's never been able to replicate again. Has Foles looked anything close to that here or in Jacksonville?


He's 3-1 with a W over the GOAT and one of the greatest 4th quarter comebacks in the history of the franchise.

Foles literally beat us in the playoffs the next year and was an Alshon tipped INT away from going to the NFC Championship.


Again that's what he did in the past with a better coach and better pieces surrounding him. If you want to play the if game yes he was an Alshon tipped ball away from the NFC championship he was also a Parkey field goal away from losing to Trubisky and the Bears.

Have you seen anything from Foles since he's been here or last season in Jacksonville that says he close to or can rekindle that 2017 form?


Yes.

I already said beating Brady and the 4th quarter comeback was enough for me. He's played 3.5 games with us, what the heck are you expecting he'd accomplish in that time?

5-1 and they're going to roll the Rams next Monday.
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Re: OT Bears 2019/20 season 

Post#1025 » by the ultimates » Mon Oct 19, 2020 2:05 am

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We won’t get bounced in the first playoff game if it’s against the winner of the NFC East. We all know that the Bears are a flawed team, but Foles has performed in the playoffs before.


Is Pederson going to call plays? Will the Bears get that Eagles offensive line? Foles had a nice hot streak he's never been able to replicate again. Has Foles looked anything close to that here or in Jacksonville?


In Football all you need is a nice little hot streak.

In 2007 Eli Manning had a regular season rating of 73.9 and a playoff rating of 95.7.
In 2011 Eli Manning had a regular season rating of 92.9 and a playoff rating of 103.3
In 2012 Joe Falcco had a regular season rating of 87.7 and a playoff rating of 117.2.
In 2017 Nick Foles had a regular season rating of 79.5 and a playoff rating of 115.7.
In 2020 Nick Foles has a regular season rating of 83.9.



So because Foles and those other quarterbacks did that's something you feel you can rely on? And those offenses Foles, Manning and Flacco were on weren't great but they were considerably better than what the Bears are doing now.
Losing to get high draft picks and hoping they turn into franchise players is not some next level, genius move. That's what teams want to happen in any rebuild/tank or whatever you want to market it as.
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Re: OT Bears 2019/20 season 

Post#1026 » by the ultimates » Mon Oct 19, 2020 2:11 am

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He's 3-1 with a W over the GOAT and one of the greatest 4th quarter comebacks in the history of the franchise.

Foles literally beat us in the playoffs the next year and was an Alshon tipped INT away from going to the NFC Championship.


Again that's what he did in the past with a better coach and better pieces surrounding him. If you want to play the if game yes he was an Alshon tipped ball away from the NFC championship he was also a Parkey field goal away from losing to Trubisky and the Bears.

Have you seen anything from Foles since he's been here or last season in Jacksonville that says he close to or can rekindle that 2017 form?


Yes.

I already said beating Brady and the 4th quarter comeback was enough for me. He's played 3.5 games with us, what the heck are you expecting he'd accomplish in that time?

5-1 and they're going to roll the Rams next Monday.


I'm expecting an offense to look better under him than it did under Trubkisky especially against a below-average at best Panther defense.
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Re: OT Bears 2019/20 season 

Post#1027 » by dice » Mon Oct 19, 2020 2:42 am

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He's 3-1 with a W over the GOAT

fun fact: brady outplayed foles in that game. and well outplayed him in the super bowl


Khalil Mack outplayed TB12 if we're just gonna state random junk.

you keep saying that "foles beat brady." THAT's junk. foles's TEAM beat brady's TEAM. it's one thing if foles played as well, but he didn't

so yes, you could argue that mack beat brady more than you could that foles beat brady. exactly my point

The Bears would truly have to have an insane collapse to not make the playoffs this year.

wouldn't even require a collapse, let alone an insane one. they're on track for 10-6, so it would probably only take a single upset to miss the playoffs
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Re: OT Bears 2019/20 season 

Post#1028 » by dice » Mon Oct 19, 2020 2:46 am

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Susan wrote:
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Is Pederson going to call plays? Will the Bears get that Eagles offensive line? Foles had a nice hot streak he's never been able to replicate again. Has Foles looked anything close to that here or in Jacksonville?


He's 3-1 with a W over the GOAT and one of the greatest 4th quarter comebacks in the history of the franchise.

Foles literally beat us in the playoffs the next year and was an Alshon tipped INT away from going to the NFC Championship.


Again that's what he did in the past with a better coach and better pieces surrounding him. If you want to play the if game yes he was an Alshon tipped ball away from the NFC championship he was also a Parkey field goal away from losing to Trubisky and the Bears.

Have you seen anything from Foles since he's been here or last season in Jacksonville that says he close to or can rekindle that 2017 form?

if parkey's FG had gone through, would foles be a bear now? interesting to think about
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Re: OT Bears 2019/20 season 

Post#1029 » by NZB2323 » Mon Oct 19, 2020 3:29 am

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Is Pederson going to call plays? Will the Bears get that Eagles offensive line? Foles had a nice hot streak he's never been able to replicate again. Has Foles looked anything close to that here or in Jacksonville?


In Football all you need is a nice little hot streak.

In 2007 Eli Manning had a regular season rating of 73.9 and a playoff rating of 95.7.
In 2011 Eli Manning had a regular season rating of 92.9 and a playoff rating of 103.3
In 2012 Joe Falcco had a regular season rating of 87.7 and a playoff rating of 117.2.
In 2017 Nick Foles had a regular season rating of 79.5 and a playoff rating of 115.7.
In 2020 Nick Foles has a regular season rating of 83.9.



So because Foles and those other quarterbacks did that's something you feel you can rely on? And those offenses Foles, Manning and Flacco were on weren't great but they were considerably better than what the Bears are doing now.


I certainly wouldn’t rely on it but it is a possibility. The Bears definitely have to improve. With no training camp this year we might see bigger differences between a team from the start of the year to the end.
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Re: OT Bears 2019/20 season 

Post#1030 » by NZB2323 » Mon Oct 19, 2020 3:32 am

dice wrote:
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dice wrote:fun fact: brady outplayed foles in that game. and well outplayed him in the super bowl


Khalil Mack outplayed TB12 if we're just gonna state random junk.

you keep saying that "foles beat brady." THAT's junk. foles's TEAM beat brady's TEAM. it's one thing if foles played as well, but he didn't

so yes, you could argue that mack beat brady more than you could that foles beat brady. exactly my point

The Bears would truly have to have an insane collapse to not make the playoffs this year.

wouldn't even require a collapse, let alone an insane one. they're on track for 10-6, so it would probably only take a single upset to miss the playoffs


There’s 3 wildcards this year, the NFC East won’t have one, and teams in the NFC West have to play each other twice.
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Re: OT Bears 2019/20 season 

Post#1031 » by Susan » Mon Oct 19, 2020 3:40 am

dice wrote:
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dice wrote:fun fact: brady outplayed foles in that game. and well outplayed him in the super bowl


Khalil Mack outplayed TB12 if we're just gonna state random junk.

you keep saying that "foles beat brady." THAT's junk. foles's TEAM beat brady's TEAM. it's one thing if foles played as well, but he didn't

so yes, you could argue that mack beat brady more than you could that foles beat brady. exactly my point

The Bears would truly have to have an insane collapse to not make the playoffs this year.

wouldn't even require a collapse, let alone an insane one. they're on track for 10-6, so it would probably only take a single upset to miss the playoffs


lol, who's winning next Monday? The Bears or the Rams?

On track for 10-6...they're 5-1 my friend and what NFC teams are catching them to keep them out of the playoffs?

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NOLA
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Whatever trash that comes from the East

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LA sucks
NOLA isn't the NOLA of last year
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Re: OT Bears 2019/20 season 

Post#1032 » by Susan » Mon Oct 19, 2020 3:42 am

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Post#1033 » by dice » Mon Oct 19, 2020 3:49 am

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Khalil Mack outplayed TB12 if we're just gonna state random junk.

you keep saying that "foles beat brady." THAT's junk. foles's TEAM beat brady's TEAM. it's one thing if foles played as well, but he didn't

so yes, you could argue that mack beat brady more than you could that foles beat brady. exactly my point

The Bears would truly have to have an insane collapse to not make the playoffs this year.

wouldn't even require a collapse, let alone an insane one. they're on track for 10-6, so it would probably only take a single upset to miss the playoffs


lol, who's winning next Monday? The Bears or the Rams?

i don't have any idea and neither do you. but the rams will be favored...roflcopter(?)

On track for 10-6...they're 5-1 my friend

and they'll probably be favored in 5 of the remaining 10 games

have you even watched the bears play this season? if so, pass me whatever you've been smoking/drinking at the time. because they sure as hell haven't been anything close to world beaters. only in the last 2 weeks have they even been average or better
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Re: OT Bears 2019/20 season 

Post#1034 » by dice » Mon Oct 19, 2020 3:52 am

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Khalil Mack outplayed TB12 if we're just gonna state random junk.

you keep saying that "foles beat brady." THAT's junk. foles's TEAM beat brady's TEAM. it's one thing if foles played as well, but he didn't

so yes, you could argue that mack beat brady more than you could that foles beat brady. exactly my point

The Bears would truly have to have an insane collapse to not make the playoffs this year.

wouldn't even require a collapse, let alone an insane one. they're on track for 10-6, so it would probably only take a single upset to miss the playoffs


There’s 3 wildcards this year, the NFC East won’t have one, and teams in the NFC West have to play each other twice.

so...you think the bears would get in at 9-7?
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Re: OT Bears 2019/20 season 

Post#1035 » by Susan » Mon Oct 19, 2020 4:12 am

dice wrote:
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dice wrote:you keep saying that "foles beat brady." THAT's junk. foles's TEAM beat brady's TEAM. it's one thing if foles played as well, but he didn't

so yes, you could argue that mack beat brady more than you could that foles beat brady. exactly my point


wouldn't even require a collapse, let alone an insane one. they're on track for 10-6, so it would probably only take a single upset to miss the playoffs


lol, who's winning next Monday? The Bears or the Rams?

i don't have any idea and neither do you. but the rams will be favored...roflcopter(?)

On track for 10-6...they're 5-1 my friend

and they'll probably be favored in 5 of the remaining 10 games

have you even watched the bears play this season? if so, pass me whatever you've been smoking/drinking at the time. because they sure as hell haven't been anything close to world beaters. only in the last 2 weeks have they even been average or better


Nobody is saying they're world beaters, they clearly aren't firing on all cylinders and they're 5-1.

Here's what I was saying in the offseason:
-Getting Foles was a good move because they raised the floor to the QB room and considering there's no OTAs, having a QB familiar with a system is paramount to being successful.
-Mack/Quinn/Hicks has the potential to be an absolutely dominant force and as I've been telling you for three seasons now, a dominant pass rush means your team is most likely going to be winning a lot of games
-The TE room HAS to be better than it was last year with Jimmy/Cole. Last year's TE production was beyond woeful

What's happened?
Foles: they benched Mitch and are 3-1 under Foles.
Pass rush: it's getting better. As it gets better, we're going to see more big plays from the secondary
TE Room: Jimmy is on pace for 60 receptions, 10TDs and 500 yards. We're better in the red zone because of his signing. It's no surprise that he struggled in GB, Rodgers historically hasn't used his TEs in the red zone and everywhere else he's. been a huge red zone threat.

lol @ sayin they're going to be underdogs next week as if that matters. I've been sayin that this team is good because I can actually watch the games and look at what's going on and talk about what I see. I don't just look at vegas lines and call it a day.
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Re: OT Bears 2019/20 season 

Post#1036 » by Susan » Mon Oct 19, 2020 4:13 am

dice wrote:
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dice wrote:you keep saying that "foles beat brady." THAT's junk. foles's TEAM beat brady's TEAM. it's one thing if foles played as well, but he didn't

so yes, you could argue that mack beat brady more than you could that foles beat brady. exactly my point


wouldn't even require a collapse, let alone an insane one. they're on track for 10-6, so it would probably only take a single upset to miss the playoffs


There’s 3 wildcards this year, the NFC East won’t have one, and teams in the NFC West have to play each other twice.

so...you think the bears would get in at 9-7?


How are the Bears getting to 9-7? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: OT Bears 2019/20 season 

Post#1037 » by Dresden » Mon Oct 19, 2020 4:41 am

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Dresden wrote:What's the status on Lamar Miller? I'd really like to see another RB get some touches, to see if there is any difference. When you are a defensive team, if you can't run the ball a bit to control the clock, it's going to catch up to you sooner or later.


I think people care too much about running the clock and not enough about wall clock possession. In terms of wear on an opposing team, its about getting more offensive snaps than your opponent not about holding the ball for more game clock because it runs after a running play and stops after an incompletion.

Running the clock can be valuable at the end of a game, but often teams with good running games still struggle to do that at the end of games once there is a stacked box.

If the Bears can develop a good, consistent, short passing game then that's nearly as good as a running game if it moves the chains, even if it doesn't give you official time of possession.


You have to be able to run the ball a little bit. I"m watching the 49'ers-Rams right now, and both teams are moving the ball both through the air, and on the ground. Running the ball does so much for your offense. If you can pick up yards and first downs on the ground, you don't risk putting the ball in the air, or getting sacked. A short passing game can have the same effect as a running game, but the Bears haven't been great at that either.
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Re: OT Bears 2019/20 season 

Post#1038 » by NZB2323 » Mon Oct 19, 2020 4:53 am

dice wrote:
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dice wrote:you keep saying that "foles beat brady." THAT's junk. foles's TEAM beat brady's TEAM. it's one thing if foles played as well, but he didn't

so yes, you could argue that mack beat brady more than you could that foles beat brady. exactly my point


wouldn't even require a collapse, let alone an insane one. they're on track for 10-6, so it would probably only take a single upset to miss the playoffs


There’s 3 wildcards this year, the NFC East won’t have one, and teams in the NFC West have to play each other twice.

so...you think the bears would get in at 9-7?


A 9-7 team has a better chance of making the playoffs this year than any other year in NFL history. I like the Bears chances of making the playoffs.
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Re: OT Bears 2019/20 season 

Post#1039 » by HoopsterJones » Mon Oct 19, 2020 5:35 am

The defense has been good and sometimes great. The offense run game is obviously the biggest problem. It’s not Montgomery’s fault either. He’s trudging for some tough yardage. The O Line needs to improve its run blocking. If the run game improves, it should open things down field a bit.
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Re: OT Bears 2019/20 season 

Post#1040 » by CjayC » Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:55 am

Coward isn't very good. Leno's ceiling is lower end starter. Whitehair's ceiling appears to be a solid starter at best. I don't expect the run game to get going without significantly patching the line up. We can hope, but it's an issue of ability mostly IMO.

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