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UnFadeable21 wrote:
Chicago Bulls get No. 1 NBA Overall Pick & $60 million cap space total for 2021 big free agency class. Sign two max contract free agents
Timberwolves get No. 4 & Zach Lavine. Wolves draft Onyeka Okongwu.
Neeva wrote:Me too. I like Zach but there really is no reason to have both Zach and Beasley and since Beasley will be half cheaper and can still somewhat improve defensively he is the one to keep. How about make it a three team trade and send Zach to Philly for Richardson and the 21st? Or to Magic for Gordon and something extra? Or to the Knicks for 8th and 27th pick and some of their horrible filler?
UnFadeable21 wrote:minimus wrote:Haberstroh: Bulls might trade up to No. 1 or 2 in draft
https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bulls/nba-draft-2020-haberstroh-expects-bulls-pursue-trading-no-1-or-2Which direction will they go? There should be options to address the team’s playmaking deficiencies and lack of wing depth at No. 4. Artūras Karnišovas and Marc Eversley have both also displayed a penchant for draft-day trades at past NBA stops. All options are seemingly on the table.
Speaking on the latest Bulls Talk Podcast with K.C. Johnson, Tom Haberstroh said he’s expecting Karnišovas to pursue a move up in his first draft as executive vice president of basketball operations.
“I think [Karnišovas] might move up, because I think No. 1 with Minnesota and No. 2 (with Golden State) is going to be readily available,” Haberstroh said. “I would be surprised if you didn’t see Charlotte (at No. 3) or Chicago move up in the draft.”
Reports have swirled for months that the Warriors are interested in flipping their No. 2 overall selection for a win-now piece — with a healthy Steph Curry and Klay Thompson, Draymond Green and solid supplemental pieces in tow, their championship window remains open. The Ringer’s Kevin O’Connor said in his latest mock draft that “executives around the NBA say the Timberwolves prefer to trade down or out of this pick to bring in a win-now player…”
For now, there is a leaguewide moratorium on transactions while the NBA and NBPA hammer out modifications to the CBA in the wake of the COVID-19 pandemic-affected 2019-20 season. But come draft night, Haberstroh thinks the floodgates could open.
“I also just think people are going to be more trigger-happy, make some deals because they’ve been so far away, so far removed from real NBA stuff that I do think there’s going to be a circus on draft night with the No. 1 pick,” he said on the podcast. “Top five I just think it’s just going to be all hands on deck.”
The Bulls find themselves squarely in that mix. A move up would be a risk, but if made by Karnišovas, you can bet it’ll be a calculated one. It could just be a matter of the price — and if there’s a prospect near the top that catches his eye.
“What is Chicago willing to give up to move up in the draft? If they have a guy that they really want and they don’t want to risk losing that player at No. 4? I don’t know what they’re willing to give up,” Haberstroh said. “But I do think that it wouldn’t be out of the realm, I wouldn’t be surprised if Artūras made a big splash on draft night and got a player that he really, really covets and values.
Via NBCSports: Chicago Bulls want the No. 1 Pick & Minnesota Twolves want to trade down. '
Who says no?
Bulls get Lamelo Ball, James Johnson, Jacob Evans, Omari Spellman = Expiring $20 million cap.
Chicago Bulls get No. 1 NBA Overall Pick & $60 million cap space total for 2021 big free agency class. Sign two max contract free agents
Timberwolves get No. 4 & Zach Lavine. Wolves draft Onyeka Okongwu.
New Squad
DLo
Zach Lavine
Jarrett Culver
Onyeka Okongwu
KAT
Jmac
Beasley
Okogie
Layman
Naz
Pick 17 & 33
packforfreedom wrote:UnFadeable21 wrote:Which direction will they go? There should be options to address the team’s playmaking deficiencies and lack of wing depth at No. 4. Artūras Karnišovas and Marc Eversley have both also displayed a penchant for draft-day trades at past NBA stops. All options are seemingly on the table.
Speaking on the latest Bulls Talk Podcast with K.C. Johnson, Tom Haberstroh said he’s expecting Karnišovas to pursue a move up in his first draft as executive vice president of basketball operations.
“I think [Karnišovas] might move up, because I think No. 1 with Minnesota and No. 2 (with Golden State) is going to be readily available,” Haberstroh said. “I would be surprised if you didn’t see Charlotte (at No. 3) or Chicago move up in the draft.”
Reports have swirled for months that the Warriors are interested in flipping their No. 2 overall selection for a win-now piece — with a healthy Steph Curry and Klay Thompson, Draymond Green and solid supplemental pieces in tow, their championship window remains open. The Ringer’s Kevin O’Connor said in his latest mock draft that “executives around the NBA say the Timberwolves prefer to trade down or out of this pick to bring in a win-now player…”
For now, there is a leaguewide moratorium on transactions while the NBA and NBPA hammer out modifications to the CBA in the wake of the COVID-19 pandemic-affected 2019-20 season. But come draft night, Haberstroh thinks the floodgates could open.
“I also just think people are going to be more trigger-happy, make some deals because they’ve been so far away, so far removed from real NBA stuff that I do think there’s going to be a circus on draft night with the No. 1 pick,” he said on the podcast. “Top five I just think it’s just going to be all hands on deck.”
The Bulls find themselves squarely in that mix. A move up would be a risk, but if made by Karnišovas, you can bet it’ll be a calculated one. It could just be a matter of the price — and if there’s a prospect near the top that catches his eye.
“What is Chicago willing to give up to move up in the draft? If they have a guy that they really want and they don’t want to risk losing that player at No. 4? I don’t know what they’re willing to give up,” Haberstroh said. “But I do think that it wouldn’t be out of the realm, I wouldn’t be surprised if Artūras made a big splash on draft night and got a player that he really, really covets and values.
Via NBCSports: Chicago Bulls want the No. 1 Pick & Minnesota Twolves want to trade down. '
Who says no?
Bulls get Lamelo Ball, James Johnson, Jacob Evans, Omari Spellman = Expiring $20 million cap.
Chicago Bulls get No. 1 NBA Overall Pick & $60 million cap space total for 2021 big free agency class. Sign two max contract free agents
Timberwolves get No. 4 & Zach Lavine. Wolves draft Onyeka Okongwu.
New Squad
DLo
Zach Lavine
Jarrett Culver
Onyeka Okongwu
KAT
Jmac
Beasley
Okogie
Layman
Naz
Pick 17 & 33
We would be stupid not to take this trade, if it comes along, but no way Chicago trades him to move up a couple of spots.
Domejandro wrote:The best value Minnesota would have a realistic chance of obtaining is either a protected pick, or Lauri Markkanan, in my opinion.
Domejandro wrote:The best value Minnesota would have a realistic chance of obtaining is either a protected pick, or Lauri Markkanan, in my opinion.
Domejandro wrote:The best value Minnesota would have a realistic chance of obtaining is either a protected pick, or Lauri Markkanan, in my opinion.
Dewey wrote:Domejandro wrote:The best value Minnesota would have a realistic chance of obtaining is either a protected pick, or Lauri Markkanan, in my opinion.
Ya Markanen would fill the PF hole is there was a deal centered around CHI #4/#44/Markanen <> MN#1/Okogie/Evans. Kinda interesting because offensively he'd fit nicely and he's not a terrible defender either. Go Forward (Okoro/Avdija) @ #4 and add a PG at #17 (Trey Jones).
DLo/McL/Jones #17
Beasley/Culver/Nowell
Avdija #4/Layman/Vanderbilt
Markanen/Hernangomez/Spellman
KAT/Reid/Oturo #33
Would this be a playoff caliber squad? Or does it fail to impact the win-now?
minimus wrote:Dewey wrote:Domejandro wrote:The best value Minnesota would have a realistic chance of obtaining is either a protected pick, or Lauri Markkanan, in my opinion.
Ya Markanen would fill the PF hole is there was a deal centered around CHI #4/#44/Markanen <> MN#1/Okogie/Evans. Kinda interesting because offensively he'd fit nicely and he's not a terrible defender either. Go Forward (Okoro/Avdija) @ #4 and add a PG at #17 (Trey Jones).
DLo/McL/Jones #17
Beasley/Culver/Nowell
Avdija #4/Layman/Vanderbilt
Markanen/Hernangomez/Spellman
KAT/Reid/Oturo #33
Would this be a playoff caliber squad? Or does it fail to impact the win-now?
Markanen is indeed a bad defender at PF. Avdija is a better fit at PF, Trey Jones at #17 is a bit high...
packforfreedom wrote:We need players that can attack the basket. our spacing will be very good but we need players who can take advantage of that. Dlo isn't that player and Beas isn't that player either. KAT of course can and will attack the basket but we also need a guard or a wing with that ability to maximize our offense.
shangrila wrote:packforfreedom wrote:We need players that can attack the basket. our spacing will be very good but we need players who can take advantage of that. Dlo isn't that player and Beas isn't that player either. KAT of course can and will attack the basket but we also need a guard or a wing with that ability to maximize our offense.
Any suggestions?
league sources have told me that the NBA is looking at options that include creating regional bubbles
minimus wrote:https://www.si.com/nba/2020/08/08/2020-2021-nba-season-regional-bubbles-play-in-tournamentleague sources have told me that the NBA is looking at options that include creating regional bubbles
This and other changes might affect the trajectory of MIN season a lot. If we play more games against our conference DEN, OKC, POR, UTA our chances for playoff might take a big hit, however, it might also speed up our young players' development. It also might make Booker think about leaving PHO, because they would play more against LAL, LAC, GSW, SAC.
Dewey wrote:minimus wrote:https://www.si.com/nba/2020/08/08/2020-2021-nba-season-regional-bubbles-play-in-tournamentleague sources have told me that the NBA is looking at options that include creating regional bubbles
This and other changes might affect the trajectory of MIN season a lot. If we play more games against our conference DEN, OKC, POR, UTA our chances for playoff might take a big hit, however, it might also speed up our young players' development. It also might make Booker think about leaving PHO, because they would play more against LAL, LAC, GSW, SAC.
Wolves gotta worry about the Wolves ... they are in no position to worry about one division/conference over another.
minimus wrote:Dewey wrote:minimus wrote:https://www.si.com/nba/2020/08/08/2020-2021-nba-season-regional-bubbles-play-in-tournament
This and other changes might affect the trajectory of MIN season a lot. If we play more games against our conference DEN, OKC, POR, UTA our chances for playoff might take a big hit, however, it might also speed up our young players' development. It also might make Booker think about leaving PHO, because they would play more against LAL, LAC, GSW, SAC.
Wolves gotta worry about the Wolves ... they are in no position to worry about one division/conference over another.
That's correct. NBA is also thinking about new conference, division system. Less travel, less risks, less injuries, higher basketball level.
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