2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 -- (8PM, Wed, Nov. 18, ESPN)

[CelticsPride18]

Is Obi Toppin falling in the draft or is Danny sure he’s going to move up? Kind weird for a guy to workout with a team far out of his draft range.

[31to6]

Will you guys be disappointed if we take Vernon Carey, Jr. at #30? Forget who else is on the board.

Not if they think he can play pro ball. I’m intrigued by his size and skill though I know he’s said to be slow.

[31to6]

This is going to be my receipt in 5 years time...

At 14, I'm picking whoever's going to be a star in 3 years.
At 26, I'm picking whoever's going to be a star in 5 years.
At 30, I'm picking whoever's going to be a rotational player in 3 years.
At 47, I'm picking whoever's still in the league in 5 years.

Fire Danny if he can't do the same.

best we take:

#14 low floor low ceiling like James Young or Langford
#26 high floor low ceiling like Grant Williams
#30 draft and stash even though there really isn’t a roster crunch, like Yabusele and Zizic
#47 useless senior guard instead of high ceiling project, like Waters, and Jackson


Then when our bench is garbage and it’s proven over time that we passed on stars and starters at every pick, have it handwaved away because “drafting is hard” and “no other GMs are any better” by Celtics forum apologists and Celtics beat writer sycophants

CouchGM is like “nyanyanyaaaah you will never get this you will never get this” with good draft picks but maybe this year Danny Ainge break his cage and he GET THIS high five

[sam_I_am]

It’s too bad we can’t draft a 16 yo. Victor Wembanyama looks like a mix of Porzingas and Gobert with vision and passing skill. He’s probably going #1 in 3 years.

[playa-hater]

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Rumor season is here, I guess.

not sure how i feel about trading up to get a 22 year old rookie. Can he play the 5 for us? otherwise........

i mean, if he falls to 7 and we trade all our picks to the pistons, i wouldn't be mad

all 3 picks

I would stalk Ainge to the end of the Earth!!

[leper-con]

I could see us doing that he's ready to play now player.

[Darth Celtic]

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Rumor season is here, I guess.

not sure how i feel about trading up to get a 22 year old rookie. Can he play the 5 for us? otherwise........

i mean, if he falls to 7 and we trade all our picks to the pistons, i wouldn't be mad

all 3 picks

I would stalk Ainge to the end of the Earth!!

so, 14, 26, 30 is too much to move up to 7? Since when? Nba is always hard to move up in the draft.

[playa-hater]

I am in the Club that is screaming for the BEST Wings of the draft fort Boston.. Whether Hayward stays one more year or not..

I still have a high desire to draft any of S Bey-Nesmith-Pat Williams at 14

BUT I have been growing my love of Precious A.. why?? Because as I reviewed our struggles on defense these playoffs, it was all set up by Theis', R Williams', Kanter's inability to step out on switches. (that and Kemba's little size)

Having said that, Precious is probably the ONLY center tall/long/athletic enough to switch.. No one in this entire draft (including J Smith) or current NBA possibilities (Myles Turner, Steve Adams) can do that. So even if Precious isn't as strong at shooting yet as I like, he can come in and immediately make a team impact..

What is or should be our team identity??? SWITCHABLE TEAM DEFENSE !!

Precious is now my top pick at 14...

am I wrong???

[Celts17Pride]

Celtics want Obi Toppin they will have to trade up to 5-6 range in my opinion. Good Luck!

[playa-hater]

not sure how i feel about trading up to get a 22 year old rookie. Can he play the 5 for us? otherwise........

i mean, if he falls to 7 and we trade all our picks to the pistons, i wouldn't be mad

all 3 picks

I would stalk Ainge to the end of the Earth!!

so, 14, 26, 30 is too much to move up to 7? Since when? Nba is always hard to move up in the draft.

Not for 7 in this draft.. not a single player in THIS draft > more than all 3 1st IMO..

example would you rather Topin or Precious + D Bane + Paul Reed (or something like that)

not saying it wouldn't cost all 3 though.

having said that I would love Topin's offense on Boston.. but def not more than the other 3 combined..

[31to6]

I am in the Club that is screaming for the BEST Wings of the draft fort Boston.. Whether Hayward stays one more year or not..

I still have a high desire to draft any of S Bey-Nesmith-Pat Williams at 14

BUT I have been growing my love of Precious A.. why?? Because as I reviewed our struggles on defense these playoffs, it was all set up by Theis', R Williams', Kanter's inability to step out on switches. (that and Kemba's little size)

Having said that, Precious is probably the ONLY center tall/long/athletic enough to switch.. No one in this entire draft (including J Smith) or current NBA possibilities (Myles Turner, Steve Adams) can do that. So even if Precious isn't as strong at shooting yet as I like, he can come in and immediately make a team impact..

What is or should be our team identity??? SWITCHABLE TEAM DEFENSE !!

Precious is now my top pick at 14...

am I wrong???

Won't say you're wrong but Jalen Smith and especially Zeke Nnaji also seem to move their feet really well on perimeter D -- Nnaji even stutter-steps towards wings when closing out. In theory getting one of them with a late first plus a wing shooter at 14 could be better overall value. I do like Precious quite a bit -- as long as we get someone with size and athleticism who has a real likelihood of contributing I'm happy.

[playa-hater]

I am in the Club that is screaming for the BEST Wings of the draft fort Boston.. Whether Hayward stays one more year or not..

I still have a high desire to draft any of S Bey-Nesmith-Pat Williams at 14

BUT I have been growing my love of Precious A.. why?? Because as I reviewed our struggles on defense these playoffs, it was all set up by Theis', R Williams', Kanter's inability to step out on switches. (that and Kemba's little size)

Having said that, Precious is probably the ONLY center tall/long/athletic enough to switch.. No one in this entire draft (including J Smith) or current NBA possibilities (Myles Turner, Steve Adams) can do that. So even if Precious isn't as strong at shooting yet as I like, he can come in and immediately make a team impact..

What is or should be our team identity??? SWITCHABLE TEAM DEFENSE !!

Precious is now my top pick at 14...

am I wrong???

Won't say you're wrong but Jalen Smith and especially Zeke Nnaji also seem to move their feet really well on perimeter D -- Nnaji even stutter-steps towards wings when closing out. In theory getting one of them with a late first plus a wing shooter at 14 could be better overall value. I do like Precious quite a bit -- as long as we get someone with size and athleticism who has a real likelihood of contributing I'm happy.

sorry I should have included my thoughts by saying after drafting Precious at 14, Boston could still focus on my much desired Wings with Ty Bey, D Bane, R Woodard or even P Reed at 26.. for the record T Bey and Woodard seem as good or better than any Wing (Vassell-S Bey-Nesmith P Williams) on defense anyway..

[Darth Celtic]

If we feel Obi is the guy, and he's got all star talent more than anyone else in the draft, and he falls to 6 and the hawks who already have pf/c combos, is 14, 26, 30 enough? or do we trade that for the 7th and trade 7 and 47 for 6? we have options that aren't terribly expensive to get him.

heck, we could even trade 6 and future first to move into top 3 in this draft. Danny has tried this before, I heard rumors of trading up to 3 for Luka, but that draft had high upside star prospects and teams aren't bitting. This year we could be a player.

The fact we are working out and meeting with a top 7 prospect tells you what you need to know.

The fact we are also working out late firsts and seconds means it might not work and we end up staying with picks we have.

Danny is ready for anything. I lean towards moving up high as moving up 5 slots doesn't do much, otherwise stay and draft best available.

[leper-con]

HArd draft as the top 15 guys seem to be in the same tier of player. But a few of these guys are going to JUMP out and be a STAR.

[playa-hater]

If we feel Obi is the guy, and he's got all star talent more than anyone else in the draft, and he falls to 6 and the hawks who already have pf/c combos, is 14, 26, 30 enough? or do we trade that for the 7th and trade 7 and 47 for 6? we have options that aren't terribly expensive to get him.

heck, we could even trade 6 and future first to move into top 3 in this draft. Danny has tried this before, I heard rumors of trading up to 3 for Luka, but that draft had high upside star prospects and teams aren't bitting. This year we could be a player.

The fact we are working out and meeting with a top 7 prospect tells you what you need to know.

The fact we are also working out late firsts and seconds means it might not work and we end up staying with picks we have.

Danny is ready for anything. I lean towards moving up high as moving up 5 slots doesn't do much, otherwise stay and draft best available.

How about a Hayward +14 trade for #6 and Huerta or something??

[TommyPointGawd]

If we feel Obi is the guy, and he's got all star talent more than anyone else in the draft, and he falls to 6 and the hawks who already have pf/c combos, is 14, 26, 30 enough? or do we trade that for the 7th and trade 7 and 47 for 6? we have options that aren't terribly expensive to get him.

heck, we could even trade 6 and future first to move into top 3 in this draft. Danny has tried this before, I heard rumors of trading up to 3 for Luka, but that draft had high upside star prospects and teams aren't bitting. This year we could be a player.

The fact we are working out and meeting with a top 7 prospect tells you what you need to know.

The fact we are also working out late firsts and seconds means it might not work and we end up staying with picks we have.

Danny is ready for anything. I lean towards moving up high as moving up 5 slots doesn't do much, otherwise stay and draft best available.

I don't think the hawks want more picks. They have a really young team.

[playa-hater]

HArd draft as the top 15 guys seem to be in the same tier of player. But a few of these guys are going to JUMP out and be a STAR.

agree

[Darth Celtic]

If we feel Obi is the guy, and he's got all star talent more than anyone else in the draft, and he falls to 6 and the hawks who already have pf/c combos, is 14, 26, 30 enough? or do we trade that for the 7th and trade 7 and 47 for 6? we have options that aren't terribly expensive to get him.

heck, we could even trade 6 and future first to move into top 3 in this draft. Danny has tried this before, I heard rumors of trading up to 3 for Luka, but that draft had high upside star prospects and teams aren't bitting. This year we could be a player.

The fact we are working out and meeting with a top 7 prospect tells you what you need to know.

The fact we are also working out late firsts and seconds means it might not work and we end up staying with picks we have.

Danny is ready for anything. I lean towards moving up high as moving up 5 slots doesn't do much, otherwise stay and draft best available.

How about a Hayward +14 trade for #6 and Huerta or something??

probably, but you would rather have huerta 26, 30 than Hayward? I guess health wise it's probably a win for us, but Hayward is way better as a player.

[BostonCouchGM]

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Rumor season is here, I guess.

not sure how i feel about trading up to get a 22 year old rookie. Can he play the 5 for us? otherwise........

i mean, if he falls to 7 and we trade all our picks to the pistons, i wouldn't be mad

all 3 picks

I would stalk Ainge to the end of the Earth!!

I like Quickley. No chance Obi is on our radar. He's the antithesis of what Danny has drafted historically. Obi is going to get worked so bad on defense, he won't be able to see the floor, at least for a contending team. He's Kuzma 2.0 with elite athleticism. No thank you

[BostonCouchGM]

If we feel Obi is the guy, and he's got all star talent more than anyone else in the draft, and he falls to 6 and the hawks who already have pf/c combos, is 14, 26, 30 enough? or do we trade that for the 7th and trade 7 and 47 for 6? we have options that aren't terribly expensive to get him.

heck, we could even trade 6 and future first to move into top 3 in this draft. Danny has tried this before, I heard rumors of trading up to 3 for Luka, but that draft had high upside star prospects and teams aren't bitting. This year we could be a player.

The fact we are working out and meeting with a top 7 prospect tells you what you need to know.

The fact we are also working out late firsts and seconds means it might not work and we end up staying with picks we have.

Danny is ready for anything. I lean towards moving up high as moving up 5 slots doesn't do much, otherwise stay and draft best available.

How about a Hayward +14 trade for #6 and Huerta or something??

ATL seems pretty set going forward after acquiring Capela. Seems like if they just take bpa big at #6 (Okongwu) and let the kids develop they'll be fine. They have arguably the most talented young roster in the NBA.

Young
Huerter
Reddish
Collins
Capela

Okongwu
Hunter

that said, a healthy Hayward added to that mix injects some vet leadership, BBIQ and professionalism. I think a deal could be made I'm just not sure they need to send back a player. And since they don't, and we don't actually gain any cap relief by trading him, we'd be creating a hole in our starting five and be replacing it with #6 pick. Is that player at #6 going to be as good as Hayward, especially in year 1? So do we, in the short term, get better as a team? I love it for our future, especially if Danny hits on the #6 and on the late 1st rounders too. Then we'd really set ourselves up for the future. But that's a lot of ifs especially with how bad a drafter Danny is.