Report: Bulls Intent On Moving Up; Desire Top 2 Pick

[ArtMorte]

No point in trading up from #4 in this draft.

[QMaster]

Man I hate that guys face lol

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[Stillwater]

Every lottery team has be linked to wanting to
Move up. Everybody is testing the waters

actually only NY was rumored to want to move up for the longest time based on GSW likely moving the pick but they are far more likely to move it for an established win now vet from a roster that actually has one as opposed to moving down in the draft for a lesser prospect and somebody NY doesnt want on the roster anymore.
I think most of the top 5 teams are hoping to be all fielding offers to move down or moreso out but in realty probably only the top 2 will get any offer worth considering.
Now of course NY is rumored to be willing to trade down as if anyone is giving up value for 8

[tarantism]

It the Bulls really are trying to avoid paying Markkanen then the Warriors could do #2 for #4 and then trade their TPE money for Markkanen and Satoransky. Then they can take they guy they want at #2 and save big money in the process.

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[zimpy27]

Personally, I would heavily consider accepting #4 and Lauri Markkanan for #1, Omari Spellman, and Jacob Evans.

Keep in mind the sourcing there is pretty soft (the person is openly speculating), but my guess is that Golden State and Minnesota would both be interested in a future first, and the conversations would center around the protections.

JJ, Culver, Pick 1 for LaVine, Markannen, Pick 4

[DaPessimist]

Bulls don't have any proven players that the Warriors would be interested in.

[Duke4life831]

I mean if the Bulls are willing to trade Markkanen to jump up 2-3 spots in this draft, GS or Minny better not hesitate on that offer. And if youre a Bulls fan, I would fear that even with a brand new front office, its just more of the same.

I highly doubt they are willing to split ways with a guy like Markkanen for this little of a move.

[Dez]

Why are people taking this seriously?

It's clearly opinion based with no sources, he clearly states they could trade back as well.

Literally just throwing **** at the wall and seeing what sticks.

[BostonCouchGM]

I don't buy that CHA wants to move up. They'll get a very good player at #3 to add to Miles Bridges, PJ Washington and their two underrated guards Rozier and Graham. I'm sure they'd love to ensure they get Wiseman but if they don't, getting Edwards or Ball still substantially alters their franchise. Either player becomes the face of the franchise and will be surrounded with enough talent to excite fans.

CHI has to be thinking about Ball. They have enough money to absorb the bad contracts the Warriors have (Wiggins, Draymond) so it's very possible the Warriors trade back from #2 to #4 if Ball is still available so they can have money to go after Giannis after the season.

CHI: #4, Otto Porter Jr.-----><-------Wiggins, Green, #2:GSW

Warriors

Steph
Klay
Porter
Pachall
Okongwu (#4 pick)

Porter comes off the books after this season and with that and saving on Draymond, they can afford Giannis who is salivating at the chance to be surrounded by shooters, in a big market, while playing for championships.

Bulls

Ball (#2 pick)
LaVine
Wiggins
Markkanen
Green-WCJ

This would be the most talented team they've had since Jordan. If Ball is as advertised they're making the playoffs, guaranteed.

Make is so

[R-DAWG]

i'd love to get Wendall Carter if I'm Golden State. Not sure if Carter is too much of a premium for the Bulls to give up to move up 2 slots. In my opinion, Carter is a better asset than Markkanan to defend against the bigs of the West (Lakers, Nuggets, Rockets).

[mtron32]

Bad thread title. This is pure speculation Haberstroh's opinion, not an actual source.

It is not a Report, just a talking head. I am glad to see some national opinions on what the Bulls need to do to become relevant again. I truly have no idea what AKs vision is of this team. Until i see a reporter cite actual sources, all we are doing is debating some other dude's ideas.

I can't imagine they are high on Ball, but maybe they see Wiseman/Carter Jr. as a shutdown front court, and worth getting Markkanen into a fresh situation. Very unlikely they overpay to move up, or that they underpay and still manage the best offer to GS or Minn.

The whole time AK has been at the helm none of these talking head theories have been shown to be true, they're just speculating like every fan in these forums. It's quite refreshing to not have to freak out when we see Bulls related rumors like in the past, curious to see how he plays it.

[chitownsalesmen]

Bulls Combo trade time

Deal one

Bulls trade
Zach Lavine
#4

Wolves trade
James Johnson
Jarret Culver
#1
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y6eubacl

deal two

Bulls trade
Otto Porter Jr.
Lauri Markkanen

Warriors trade
Andrew Wiggins
#2
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yxuvvton

Bulls draft Wiseman and Edwards back to back and move forward with this very young, high potential starting 5

Wiseman
Carter Jr.
Wiggins/Culver
Edwards
White

GSW reloads around their core
Markkanen
Green
Porter
Klay
Curry


Minny puts together a big 3 of KAT-Russell-LaVine AND the #4 pick.


Might need some ironing out around maybe GSW kicks in a future 1st to Chicago, etc but I think this is possibly a foundation for something, maybe it turns into a 3 way deal, I think all 3 teams fit better after this and they all get on a similar time-line.

Chicago turns back the clock on their contract extension time lines, AK comes out of the box swinging by nabbing the top 2 picks this season, along with last years #6 pick, balancing their roster in the process by adding two blue chip prospects potentially filling out their starting 5 for years too come(esspecially if Culver ends up as a starter for them.) Wiggins is making money but they could still clear space for a max if someone becomes available in 2021/2022

GSW turns Wiggins and their pick into a guy who could easily fill the Harrison Barnes role and a very offensively talented 7 footer who would fit in like a dream in their offense. They don't have time to let a rookie develop and Markkanen still has enough potential to raise his game to new heights, and help put the Warriors back in the upper echelon of the Western conference once again.

Minny puts together a high-flying big 3 that could score a TON of points, would have a lot of questions defensively but with the scoring of KAT-LaVine -Russell they could very easily fill the entire rest of the roster 3+D and a couple of rim runner bigs, thats the easy part of team building, getting three guys who could combine for 100pts on anyt given night by the selves is the hard part, plus in this deal they still have #4 at their disposal.

[NY 567]

This screams “Lauri’s out.” I’m in on #1 and end of bench players for #4 and Markanen.

Towns
Markanen
Culver
Beasley
Russell

#4
MLE
Okogie
Juancho
Layman
Reid
McLaughlin

On paper, a decent 40+ win team?

That team would break defensive records, and not in a good way.

[DonaldSanders]

I'm not sure how those quotes equal "CHI intent on moving up", but it sounds like they could be interested in it. I hope LaVine isn't on the table to move up from 4 in this draft.

Trading LaVine and #4 to move up in this weak draft is an awful move for the Bulls. There isn’t a Zion, Ja, Luka, Ayton or even Trae Young level of talent/hype to be had there.

I may be amenable to trading Lauri to move up, but that would be selling low on him.

When you consider and realize that LaVine doesn't contribute to winning basketball in any way, it makes even more sense. Problem is, the Wolves already know this and the warriors have no place for him with all the other guards on roster and salary structures tight. If the bulls want to move up, a young player in rookie contract and future picks are what they have to offer. Marketen fits the bill the most for GSW. Big who can shoot to play the "five" for them.

As much as the Warriors like bigs who can shoot, anyone playing the 4/5 needs to be a defender first. Bogut, Ezeli, Mcgee, Green, Looney, Varejao, Pachulia, David West (was far more of a factor on D while on the W's). So I don't think Lauri fits that mold, but anything can happen in the right deal I suppose.

LaVine is interesting but you have to assume his numbers would be a lot smaller on GSW. Kerr/etc would really have to think they see someone who they can nurture for this to be worthwhile. His 3P % of .375 lifetime and him being 6'6 is great, but he as others said not shown he can really move the needle for a team. Between the 2 players I'd say we'd be much more likely to be interested in LaVine as big guards who can shoot is basically what this system calls for.

[khufure]

I love the people suggesting Bulls are gonna give up LaVine and #4 for #1 or #2. Get out with that garbage!

[jpengland]

Markannen would be an interesting fit on thr Warriors.

[ElectricMayhem]

Title: Bulls Intent on Moving Up
Content: I have no idea what they're doing, but I mean I'd totally think about it if I were them.

[jbk1234]

Every lottery team has be linked to wanting to
Move up. Everybody is testing the waters

Not really. I've seen a whole lot about GS and Minny wanting to move down, but the Knicks are the only team I've even seen a rumor about moving up, and no whatever this is, it doesn't qualify as a rumor.

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[Jiipee84]

Markkanen seems like a perfect candidate. Both Warriors and Twolves could use a guy like that. And Bulls don't really want to pay him.

Lauri is not a throw in AK is higher on him than anyone on the roster. Its most likely Gafford who has lottery pick value or some combination of Hutch/Dunn whose more than enough to move up couple of spots.
Like Wolves and Warriors are the one losing out if they hold out bc they are serious contenders for title short term and the higher salary number 2 makes is a deal breaker they would almost choose a worse pick as long as they got their guy.
In a world where no other team wants to move up other than Knicks, Bulls hold all the leverage due to supply demand. This isnt Doncic draft where a team is dying to sacrifice everything Dallas did.

How sure you are about that Bulls won't trade Lauri if price and return are right ?
It's not set in stone Lauri will stay in Chicago after season 2020-2021.

[Jiipee84]

Why would Bulls give up Lavine or Markkanen for 2-3 spots? That doesn't seem right.

Tell me 3 good reasons why Bulls should ignore all trade offers for Lavine and Markkanen
if Karnisovas and Eversley have a chance to create more cap space to sign 2 max free-agents in 2021 free agency market.