Official trade thread/buy-out market 20-21 edition

[TheHartBreakKid]

Which players LAL can get for this two packages?
- D.Green and K.Kuzma
- McGee, Cook and 2020 1st round pick

Oladipo and McDermott could be had for Green, Kuzma, Bradley, pick 28.
McDermott could be had for pick 28 and salary filler (McGee, Cook)
Oladipo could be had for Green, Kuzma, Bradley

PG: Caruso | Rondo
SG: Oladipo | KCP
SF: LeBron | McDermott
PF: Davis | Markieff
C : Howard | Cousins

I would start KCP and Dipo in that hypothetical lineup, and it would obviously be an upgrade over our playoff starting lineup.

The question is how much can we resign KCP and Rondo using their birds rights (after resigning AD) while still remaining under the tax apron and qualifying for the full MLE?

Also, from what I've read, retaining Rondo would require giving him over a 1 year deal as we only have early bird rights, so we are talking about a contract that we might need to dump in 2021 while attaching assets. But regardless, I'm ok with keeping KCP for a one year deal and Rondo for whatever deal that gets the job done using bird rights, but I believe if we are over the tax we will not get the full MLE, so how much they get paid plus ADs pay bump and the difference in Dipo/Mcdermot's contracts vs our outpu tcould lead to us only having the BAE and no MLE, correct?


I ask because retaining Dwight and Markeif (or signing replacements with similar quality )becomes essential if Mcgee and Kuz are gone, and I'm not sure the BAE is enough to get the job done.



KCP/Oladipo/Bron/AD/Dwight is an upgrade over our starting 5 for this year. Rondo and Caruso showed they are a capable pair of backup guards. The bench obviously downgrades with Mcdermott/Markief instead of Kuz/Markief in those roles, but I believe that downgrade is acceptable. Same as the Dwight/vet min center vs Dwight/Mcgee center duo. But this only works if we could retain Dwight and Markief or find replacements with the same quality, which becomes very difficult to do if we don't have the full MLE to work with.

If we do have the full FME after all this, I'm all for it. Even a 3 and D version of Dipo is enough of an upgrade to make up for the bench downgrades, and Kuz realistically has to go anyways due to him being up for an extension. one of Dwight or Mcgee is perfectly fine for what we need from that position. We should be able to find a second quality big to let AD not play center during the RS for the minimum, whether it's cousins, a ring chaser, or an undervalued young big looking to up their value.

We should be able to find enough ring chasing options to add depth all around and THT should be ready for a bigger reserve role, but it leaves very little room for error.

As long as we aren't expecting Dipo to be the third head in a big three and expecting him to be an upgraded version of Danny Green, this team, if possible to assemble, is a good combination of retooling and retention of valuable pieces.

[stan francisco]

What would it take to get McDermott without Olaidipo involved?

[zimpy27]

What would it take to get McDermott without Olaidipo involved?

Pick 28 and salary match would do it. McGee, Cook, pick 28 for example.

[stan francisco]

What would it take to get McDermott without Olaidipo involved?

Pick 28 and salary match would do it. McGee, Cook, pick 28 for example.

Do it, Rob!!!

[stan francisco]

Does he play decent defense or is he a typical 3pt shooting stiff white cone?

[zimpy27]

Which players LAL can get for this two packages?
- D.Green and K.Kuzma
- McGee, Cook and 2020 1st round pick

Oladipo and McDermott could be had for Green, Kuzma, Bradley, pick 28.
McDermott could be had for pick 28 and salary filler (McGee, Cook)
Oladipo could be had for Green, Kuzma, Bradley

PG: Caruso | Rondo
SG: Oladipo | KCP
SF: LeBron | McDermott
PF: Davis | Markieff
C : Howard | Cousins

I would start KCP and Dipo in that hypothetical lineup, and it would obviously be an upgrade over our playoff starting lineup.

The question is how much can we resign KCP and Rondo using their birds rights (after resigning AD) while still remaining under the tax apron and qualifying for the full MLE?

Also, from what I've read, retaining Rondo would require giving him over a 1 year deal as we only have early bird rights, so we are talking about a contract that we might need to dump in 2021 while attaching assets. But regardless, I'm ok with keeping KCP for a one year deal and Rondo for whatever deal that gets the job done using bird rights, but I believe if we are over the tax we will not get the full MLE, so how much they get paid plus ADs pay bump and the difference in Dipo/Mcdermot's contracts vs our outpu tcould lead to us only having the BAE and no MLE, correct?

I ask because retaining Dwight and Markeif (or signing replacements with similar quality )becomes essential if Mcgee and Kuz are gone, and I'm not sure the BAE is enough to get the job done.

- Lakers won't maintain cap space for 2021, that would be very difficult to do especially with it dropping. 1-year deals would be silly anyway.

- Lakers have 18m to resign Rondo, KCP, Cousins and still have BAE and full MLE without eating into apron.

- Markieff, Dwight, Thompson would all need to be brought in with 13.5m from BAE and Full MLE unless one wants to sign for vet min.

- However, Lakers can just not do a sign and trade or use BAE and non-tax MLE (13.5m together). That allows them to go into tax and apron and they get a tax MLE (worth 6m).

[KuzControl]

I'd be targeting Schroder before I'm targeting Oladipo. Still a short contract, will be easier to get, and is less injury prone. Gives us someone that can playmake, create their own shot and play off the ball when Bron/Rondo are running the offense.

Otherwise, I'd be looking at bringing back most of our guys (Dwight/Rondo/KCP/Markieff etc), whilst additionally targeting guys like Gallo (if he will in fact take a pay cut for us), Alec Burks, Justin Holiday, Harkless, RHJ and Jeff Green. Oh, and bring back Cousins

Can someone tell me why Tristan Thompson would be a value get at this point?

[Kilroy]

I'd be targeting Schroder before I'm targeting Oladipo. Still a short contract, will be easier to get, and is less injury prone. Gives us someone that can playmake, create their own shot and play off the ball when Bron/Rondo are running the offense.

Otherwise, I'd be looking at bringing back most of our guys (Dwight/Rondo/KCP/Markieff etc), whilst additionally targeting guys like Gallo (if he will in fact take a pay cut for us), Alec Burks, Justin Holiday, Harkless, RHJ and Jeff Green. Oh, and bring back Cousins

Can someone tell me why Tristan Thompson would be a value get at this point?

Schroeder is a bit of a head case though isn't he? I was loosely following him last season because of the fantasy team and it seems like he can shoot and defend but sometimes gets a little full of himself and selfish... Get the sense locker rooms don't really dig the guy.

[BEazy]

Yeah Oladipo over Schroder all day. Give me D Rose over Schroder as well.

[KuzControl]

I'd be targeting Schroder before I'm targeting Oladipo. Still a short contract, will be easier to get, and is less injury prone. Gives us someone that can playmake, create their own shot and play off the ball when Bron/Rondo are running the offense.

Otherwise, I'd be looking at bringing back most of our guys (Dwight/Rondo/KCP/Markieff etc), whilst additionally targeting guys like Gallo (if he will in fact take a pay cut for us), Alec Burks, Justin Holiday, Harkless, RHJ and Jeff Green. Oh, and bring back Cousins

Can someone tell me why Tristan Thompson would be a value get at this point?

Schroeder is a bit of a head case though isn't he? I was loosely following him last season because of the fantasy team and it seems like he can shoot and defend but sometimes gets a little full of himself and selfish... Get the sense locker rooms don't really dig the guy.

Rondo and Dwight were headcases too, apparently. Schroder's had a career-best year under a similar type of leader/playmaker to LeBron in CP3, I feel like he'd have a similar impact on this squad

[KuzControl]

Yeah Oladipo over Schroder all day. Give me D Rose over Schroder as well.

Look Oladipo's a better player, but for the risk of his injuries and what we'd have to give up (Kuz + 28 + salary isn't enough), I don't think he's as worth it

Also, word of warning - Rose is not a good fit on a team with both LeBron and Rondo on it, as great of a shot creator he is. All three of those guys need the ball in their hands for a large portion of the game. Having them all on the squad either means LeBron is playing 25+ minutes a game off the ball, or Rondo/Rose are getting minimal minutes (neither of those are happening). That said, if Rondo leaves us (which I highly doubt), I'd be all for getting DRose without a doubt, he'd be cheaper than Schroder after all

[zimpy27]

I'd be targeting Schroder before I'm targeting Oladipo. Still a short contract, will be easier to get, and is less injury prone. Gives us someone that can playmake, create their own shot and play off the ball when Bron/Rondo are running the offense.

Otherwise, I'd be looking at bringing back most of our guys (Dwight/Rondo/KCP/Markieff etc), whilst additionally targeting guys like Gallo (if he will in fact take a pay cut for us), Alec Burks, Justin Holiday, Harkless, RHJ and Jeff Green. Oh, and bring back Cousins

Can someone tell me why Tristan Thompson would be a value get at this point?

Thompson is 29, family lives in LA, would probably take a paycut to live in LA, has a game that fits very well with LeBron, one of the better perimeter defenders in league at C, working on shooting 3s, produces rebounds like Dwight but not as good at blocking the ball as Dwight, less turnovers than dwight and sets better screens. If he only costs $3m more than Dwight then he's worth taking.

Main downside of TT is off-court drama with Kardashians.

[stan francisco]

TT? Nah. Re-sign Dwight on the cheap.

Josh Jackson plays defense and runs the break and can log heavy minutes. Get him a shooting coach and hope he breaks through. On defense, he’ll hold it down. He needs no coaching running the break.

[DanishLakerFan]

McBuckets isn't worth a draft pick. At all. Sign Korver to the min. Or Bellinelli or Ellington.

[Kilroy]

I'm curious to see what Cousins does... If Dwight leaves, would Cousins come back for a 1+1? I mean we're giving him a ring and all, right?
I don't trust Dwight to do it again... I just don't. He's got his ring now, redeemed himself in LA, he has little to prove, and I'm sure he'll get offers bigger than ours... He was super motivated last summer to come in and show something... 90 or maybe even 100% of that motivation is gone and satisfied now... I doubt he comes back. Cousins on the other hand might.
Cousins is a physical deck of cards right now, but he's had the better part of a year to rehab, and had full use of our facilities... If he can play again, I could see him being pretty close to Dwight levels, maybe... And AD was much more comfortable playing next to him than he was Dwight.

[BEazy]

Hmmm, JaVale sold his house in LA. Interesting...

[loveshaq786]

Trade 1: bradley, mcgee, and our first for covington

Trade 2:green and kuz for bogs (from sac) or Schroeder (more likely).

Schroeder and covington could be had for that price and give us what we need.

Sign rondo, christian wood, noel, gasol, ibaka, trey burke, and Justin holiday.

Let kcp and dwight walk... If we cant get a pick out of them.

[nzahir]

Does he play decent defense or is he a typical 3pt shooting stiff white cone?

Not a very good defender, but a lot of numbers don't have him as too much of a negative, a bit surprised

His drpm is a slight positive
Negative RAPTOR
Defensive iso ppp is at .91, so not bad

Haven't watched too much of him defensively, but ofc that would be the film team's task along with Rob and others

I really want a great shooter on this team who actually gets some minutes

When Lebron had elite shooters with him (Ray or Korver), the offense would explode

[stan francisco]

I hope Rob is looking into it. We were missing open threes left and right in the Finals and still won. With a knock-down shooter or two, we would’ve swept them.

[laloo]

Get Bogdan Bogdanovic to LA.