Lakers request career ending injury application for Luol Deng, could save 5 mil per year.

[Freighttrain]

Would be sweet since he's on for 5 million till 2022. Could make the deal for CP3 or others less straining for our cap space.

@mods, if this is not thread worthy it can be deleted, but it's the offseason so any news is good news I'd say

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[mcmokken]

Title makes it sound like they want to hire some goons to injure him and end his career.

[Freighttrain]

Title makes it sound like they want to hire some goons to injure him and end his career.

one word does change the entire perspective

added it in.

[zimpy27]

I mean, it's worth a shot. Don't know how this will happen though.

[UcanUwill]

Luol Deng is younger than LeBron James, isnt that something

[SmartWentCrazy]

He played 22 games with Minny after he was cut. How can they argue he had a career ending injury with the Lakers?

[miamiheat319]

He played afterwards for the Wolves though. I would understand if he never played another game after the Lakers cut him but it's kinda weird when the injury in question didn't end his career. Then again, I don't really know how this kind of stuff works so I could be wrong.

[BK_2020]

Just like all the rings Minnesota won belong to the Lakers all the games Deng played in Minnesota are also Lakers games.

[Slava]

Yeah this is a shot in the dark but the league won't allow it. Pistons were paying Josh Smith until a season ago.

[lamscott]

What does this mean for the Lakers numbers wise.

[Slava]

He played 22 games with Minny after he was cut. How can they argue he had a career ending injury with the Lakers?

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[Questionquest]

He played 22 games with Minny after he was cut. How can they argue he had a career ending injury with the Lakers?

He had whatever happened to fultz shoulder, but to his entire body lol. I admit i didn't see him as a wolves player, but in those laker years he was a zombie

[Mamba Mentality]

Before all the outrage...

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[SmartWentCrazy]

He played 22 games with Minny after he was cut. How can they argue he had a career ending injury with the Lakers?

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http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q61

The team can apply to have the player's salary excluded starting on the first anniversary of the player's last regular season or playoff game, and not before the one-year anniversary of the first regular season game for which the player was on the team's roster under his current contract. If the player played in fewer than 10 games in the last season in which he played, the team can apply on the one-year anniversary of the player's last regular season or playoff game, or 60 days after his last game in the current season, whichever is later.

The determination as to whether an injury or illness is career ending is made by a physician jointly selected by the league and players association, or by a Fitness to Play panel (see question number 62). The determination is based on whether the injury or illness will prevent the player from playing for the remainder of his career, or if it is severe enough that continuing to play constitutes a medically unacceptable risk.

If the injury exclusion is granted, the player's salary is removed from the team salary immediately.

If the player later "proves the doctors wrong" and resumes his career, then his salary is returned to the team salary when he plays in his 25th game1 in any one season, for any team. This allows a player to attempt to resume his career without affecting his previous team unless his comeback is ultimately successful.2 If the 25th game was a playoff game, then the player's salary is returned to the cap effective on the date of the team's last regular season game (i.e., the returned salary counts toward the luxury tax).

There are a few additional nuances to the salary exclusion:

If the player resumes his career and his salary is returned to the team salary, the team can re-apply for the salary exclusion under the same rules (including the rules for the waiting period).
If a player retires, even for medical reasons, his team does not receive a salary cap exception to acquire a replacement player.
A team can only apply for salary exclusion during the original term of a contract. If the player was waived and his salary stretched (see question number 64), the team must apply for the salary exclusion before the contract's original end date.

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/minnesota-timberwolves/luol-deng-2240/

His original contract expired unfortunately for LA

[LakersSoul]

Maybe or the date shouldn’t be a major issues since the last season is this year and we had the COVID issue.

[donkeylips]

clippers will sign deng to a two way contract

[Dr Aki]

Fairly sure this COVID season is messing with all the contracts all over the world.

See Messi trying to opt out as well.

Also, the thread title says it's saving the Lakers 5 mil per year.

It should really specify it saves the Lakers 5 mil in cap per year, Lakers will still be paying Deng. It just won't be on the cap if this succeeds

[TrueFan420]

clippers will sign deng to a two way contract

That would be an epic level of trolling and glorious on several levels.

[docholliday99]

He played 22 games with Minny after he was cut. How can they argue he had a career ending injury with the Lakers?

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http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q61

The team can apply to have the player's salary excluded starting on the first anniversary of the player's last regular season or playoff game, and not before the one-year anniversary of the first regular season game for which the player was on the team's roster under his current contract. If the player played in fewer than 10 games in the last season in which he played, the team can apply on the one-year anniversary of the player's last regular season or playoff game, or 60 days after his last game in the current season, whichever is later.

The determination as to whether an injury or illness is career ending is made by a physician jointly selected by the league and players association, or by a Fitness to Play panel (see question number 62). The determination is based on whether the injury or illness will prevent the player from playing for the remainder of his career, or if it is severe enough that continuing to play constitutes a medically unacceptable risk.

If the injury exclusion is granted, the player's salary is removed from the team salary immediately.

If the player later "proves the doctors wrong" and resumes his career, then his salary is returned to the team salary when he plays in his 25th game1 in any one season, for any team. This allows a player to attempt to resume his career without affecting his previous team unless his comeback is ultimately successful.2 If the 25th game was a playoff game, then the player's salary is returned to the cap effective on the date of the team's last regular season game (i.e., the returned salary counts toward the luxury tax).

There are a few additional nuances to the salary exclusion:

If the player resumes his career and his salary is returned to the team salary, the team can re-apply for the salary exclusion under the same rules (including the rules for the waiting period).
If a player retires, even for medical reasons, his team does not receive a salary cap exception to acquire a replacement player.
A team can only apply for salary exclusion during the original term of a contract. If the player was waived and his salary stretched (see question number 64), the team must apply for the salary exclusion before the contract's original end date.

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/minnesota-timberwolves/luol-deng-2240/

His original contract expired unfortunately for LA

Just curious but I would think the cap experts working for the Lakers would have thought of all this before applying, no?

[SmartWentCrazy]

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http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q61

The team can apply to have the player's salary excluded starting on the first anniversary of the player's last regular season or playoff game, and not before the one-year anniversary of the first regular season game for which the player was on the team's roster under his current contract. If the player played in fewer than 10 games in the last season in which he played, the team can apply on the one-year anniversary of the player's last regular season or playoff game, or 60 days after his last game in the current season, whichever is later.

The determination as to whether an injury or illness is career ending is made by a physician jointly selected by the league and players association, or by a Fitness to Play panel (see question number 62). The determination is based on whether the injury or illness will prevent the player from playing for the remainder of his career, or if it is severe enough that continuing to play constitutes a medically unacceptable risk.

If the injury exclusion is granted, the player's salary is removed from the team salary immediately.

If the player later "proves the doctors wrong" and resumes his career, then his salary is returned to the team salary when he plays in his 25th game1 in any one season, for any team. This allows a player to attempt to resume his career without affecting his previous team unless his comeback is ultimately successful.2 If the 25th game was a playoff game, then the player's salary is returned to the cap effective on the date of the team's last regular season game (i.e., the returned salary counts toward the luxury tax).

There are a few additional nuances to the salary exclusion:

If the player resumes his career and his salary is returned to the team salary, the team can re-apply for the salary exclusion under the same rules (including the rules for the waiting period).
If a player retires, even for medical reasons, his team does not receive a salary cap exception to acquire a replacement player.
A team can only apply for salary exclusion during the original term of a contract. If the player was waived and his salary stretched (see question number 64), the team must apply for the salary exclusion before the contract's original end date.

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/minnesota-timberwolves/luol-deng-2240/

His original contract expired unfortunately for LA

Just curious but I would think the cap experts working for the Lakers would have thought of all this before applying, no?

You dont get what you dont ask for. You also dont always get what you ask for.