Giannis Thread - 2 Time MVP - The Contract discussions

[Turk Nowitzki]

Something no one really mentions is the "compromise" option for Gianni where he signs a 3-year deal with an option on the third (2+1). He then has potentially 10 years with the Bucks but is still a FA in the middle of his prime if Milwaukee somehow can't build a title team around him. I could see that happening.

It almost makes too much sense for him to go this route.

[Prez]

Giannis will never be Lebron because Giannis just doesnt have the basketball IQ that Lebron does. Who does, though?

This is BS. LeBron has a decent BBIQ, but it isnt great or elite.

The game is hella easy when you are playing 8 on 5.

Giannis is a terrible passer, even though he gets a decent amount of assists. He is often late on passes, tries to make a high level of difficulty pass which often ends in turnovers, or when he kicks to the wing, often is not precise with hitting the shooters so they can catch and shoot in one motion..

LeBron is one of the smartest players of all time lmao, come on now

[DingleJerry]

Something no one really mentions is the "compromise" option for Gianni where he signs a 3-year deal with an option on the third (2+1). He then has potentially 10 years with the Bucks but is still a FA in the middle of his prime if Milwaukee somehow can't build a title team around him. I could see that happening.

This is the feeling or best guess I've had lately too. So he can still say he was loyal, as it would be a fairly bad going back on his word if he were to do it now. But if he gives it 2-3 more years he can have a 'see I was loya and tried all I could there'. Seems like a descent middle ground to me.

[emunney]

Giannis will never be Lebron because Giannis just doesnt have the basketball IQ that Lebron does. Who does, though?

This is BS. LeBron has a decent BBIQ, but it isnt great or elite.

The game is hella easy when you are playing 8 on 5.

Giannis is a terrible passer, even though he gets a decent amount of assists. He is often late on passes, tries to make a high level of difficulty pass which often ends in turnovers, or when he kicks to the wing, often is not precise with hitting the shooters so they can catch and shoot in one motion..

LeBron is one of the smartest players of all time lmao, come on now

Yes this is a v bad and v salty take. LeBron obviously has off the charts BBIQ. Listening to him recall a play is almost exactly like Aaron Rodgers -- they both have the ability to recall and dissect every detail of every play.

"Giannis is a terrible passer" is also an aggressively dumb take. He certainly has room to improve but take a Xanax.

[blazza18]

I wish I could live in the world where Giannis could do no wrong and Lebron has a poor BBIQ and is only really good because of refs.

[Pachinko_]

He's not a terrible passer, just not good enough to have the ball in his hands all the time in the playoffs.
Fine in the regular season when teams are kind of sort of defending.

[Diggr14]

I wish I could live in the world where Giannis could do no wrong and Lebron has a poor BBIQ and is only really good because of refs.

You do.

LeBron is definitely not a smart individual, nor a smart basketball player. He is a very good individual player, especially when he can go to the rim, run over a player and get a foul the majority of the time. That isnt BBIQ, nor is he a good passer, he's a volume passer like Giannis who has the ball in his hands an awful lot and by definition will just get assists arbitrarily.

When I think of BBIQ, i think of players like Stockton, Nash, Duncan, Kidd, Magic, Hakeem guys that can pass an engineer an offensive set or execute without referee bailouts, or execute a play other than a pick and roll. Driving into a bunch of people and draw a wild foul or kick it out and the player receiving the ball makes a good play on an average pass isnt BBIQ, it's athleticism.. skill.. NBA referee engineering.. and hype rolled into one.

That just isnt BBIQ to me. Could be an aggressive take, but the player that uses his athleticism and just happens into assists or gets bailed out by the refs isnt a smart player, IMO.

[emunney]

I wish I could live in the world where Giannis could do no wrong and Lebron has a poor BBIQ and is only really good because of refs.

You do.

LeBron is definitely not a smart individual, nor a smart basketball player. He is a very good individual player, especially when he can go to the rim, run over a player and get a foul the majority of the time. That isnt BBIQ, nor is he a good passer, he's a volume passer like Giannis who has the ball in his hands an awful lot and by definition will just get assists arbitrarily.

When I think of BBIQ, i think of players like Stockton, Nash, Duncan, Kidd, Magic, Hakeem guys that can pass an engineer an offensive set or execute without referee bailouts, or execute a play other than a pick and roll. Driving into a bunch of people and draw a wild foul or kick it out and the player receiving the ball makes a good play on an average pass isnt BBIQ, it's athleticism.. skill.. NBA referee engineering.. and hype rolled into one.

That just isnt BBIQ to me. Could be an aggressive take, but the player that uses his athleticism and just happens into assists or gets bailed out by the refs isnt a smart player, IMO.

Lol post through it

[KidA24]

That just isnt BBIQ to me. Could be an aggressive take, but the player that uses his athleticism and just happens into assists or gets bailed out by the refs isnt a smart player, IMO.

I've seen some Skip Bayless level takes before on here, but this is truly some amazing stuff.

The guy led the league in every single assist category this season. At 35 years old.

He bends the game to his will and then picks teams apart with precision. He consistently calls out other teams defensive schemes and plays as they are happening.

I mean, don't take my word for it.

Watch on YouTube

Start at 3:30

[skones]

Not a good passer, poor bball IQ.

Watch on YouTube

Just an awful take. His BBIQ and Passing are legitimately the things that make him a GOAT Candidate and as impactful as he has been his entire career.

[RiotPunch]

Diggr14 is the old man yells at cloud guy.

Arguing with Diggr14 is also like yelling at a cloud. Just an out of touch, unreasonable cloud that will definitely @ you with more nonsensical takes.

[Pachinko_]

It's not about that man. It's easy to think it's about the flashy passes or the dunks or the big numbers, but it's not. Lebron is all about the decision making. Shoot, pass or drive, dude gets it right 99% of the time, he just reads everything correctly and maximises his team's chances of something good happening. He's as good as Doncic but with a body carved out of wood. Struggled a bit with his shooting for stretches in his career but other than that he's as close to the perfect basketball player as we've seen in this generation and all the way back to MJ.

[Garbs_7]

On The Athletic article that has just come out surveying agents around the league, they were asked if they thought Giannis would stay in Milwaukee or leave. 17 think he'll stay and 1 thinks he'll leave.

[blazza18]

On The Athletic article that has just come out surveying agents around the league, they were asked if they thought Giannis would stay in Milwaukee or leave. 17 think he'll stay and 1 thinks he'll leave.

Let’s hope the leave wasn’t from his agent

[midranger]

I think it’s fair to not like Lebron the whiner, the insecure/self-indulgent superstar, the super team maker, the mixer of agents with active players, whatever else...

But Lebron the basketball player is unimpeachable.

[DingleJerry]

And for anyone saying how much LBJ benefits from the refs please go back and apply that to MJ too. Pistons got away with beating him up at the beginning, after that he was untouchable while getting away with everything on D too. He was literally the start of the 'superstar' treatment.

[emunney]

Not a good passer, poor bball IQ.

Watch on YouTube

Just an awful take. His BBIQ and Passing are legitimately the things that make him a GOAT Candidate and as impactful as he has been his entire career.

All I see here is a guy getting bailed out by the refs who REFUSE to acknowledge that ALL of these passes are TRAVELing through the AIR

[Diggr14]

I think it’s fair to not like Lebron the whiner, the insecure/self-indulgent superstar, the super team maker, the mixer of agents with active players, whatever else...

But Lebron the basketball player is unimpeachable.

I think he is a great player. One of the best physical specimens to play in the NBA ever. But he is very overrated and it would be nice to see refs call games fairly when he is on the floor. That goes for any player. Star coddling is one of the worst things in the NBA, period.

BBIQ, no. The guy has just north of a 2.0 A/TO ratio in his career and has a 31.5% usg rate. Defensively, he's very average lately until the playoffs. He has the size and athleticism to be great, but doesn't take that approach on that end of the floor. Maybe it's an NBA thing, and maybe it's an effort thing knowing that offensive play gets you the praise and glamour more than defense. But in terms of BBIQ, i'd rather have a player that's consistent and can impact the game by a few points based on his positioning and effort.

You dont need to felate a player because he is a tremendous talent. He doesn't have to be good at everything to be great. But a smart, efficient player with elite BBIQ he is not. Is he above average, sure. Is he elite.. no. Is he an elite player, of course.

This all being said, i do think he has a higher BBIQ than Giannis. I think Giannis has a long way to go in this department, but he shows definite glimmers of superior BBIQ at times. The longer he plays and with his work ethic, i see him becoming one of the more heady players in the NBA by his 30s.

[Diggr14]

Diggr14 is the old man yells at cloud guy.

Arguing with Diggr14 is also like yelling at a cloud. Just an out of touch, unreasonable cloud that will definitely @ you with more nonsensical takes.

I mean, at least im not a lemming.


I just merely said the guy wasn't an elite BBIQ guy and he clearly isnt. Does that not make him one of the best ever, no. Is he given unfair advantages by the NBA and it's referee team.. of course.

Shaq wasnt a high level BBIQ guy, but if i had to pick one player all-time to start a franchise with.. it would probably be prime shaq.

[RiotPunch]

Yeah, Shaq clearly could do **** like this too.

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