Is Montrezl Harrell overrated?

[IAMZOOTED2]

No. He's actually underrated by the sheer amount of people that only just watched him closely for the first time in that awful playoff

Absolutely right! Bet he's bummed he even played the bubble gsmes.

[winston2chainz]

He's not a sixth man of the year, that award is cheeks. And he's definitely overrated by the media because of his personality and scoring.

I don't think he's unplayably bad on defense but he would need to be surrounded by fundamentally sound defensive players because he gets beat in the PNR like a big man, misses switches, doesn't provide rim protection and also doesn't have good enough perimeter quickness or savvy to defend outside the paint.

You could probably put a lot of athletic PFs in a small ball 5 role, spam PNR against backup centres in the regular season and they'll comfortably put up 15ppg given the opportunities. Montrezl could still be a valuable bench scorer and small ball centre but not on a championship team (unless he's on the taxpayer MLE and there's another more defensive oriented backup C).

[jbk1234]

Yes, he's the next Faried or TT IMO. A really good role player who is about to lose a lot of his value once he's paid like a starter.

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[KingFox]

No. He just has no business playing at the 5 how in Gods name can someone be overrated because of one subpar series?

[lonzo_pelota]

Montrezl is still young and hasnt hit his ceiling, now Lemon Pepper Lou on the other hand is vastly overrated and a defensive liability...his only net positive is he got underpaid just to stay on the team, its a reason he's played on so many teams & he obviously loves strip clubs so he probably should of went after the bigger contract & not the lemon pepper lou copyright, he's a doofus

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[lazybatman]

No. He's actually underrated by the sheer amount of people that only just watched him closely for the first time in that awful playoff

Agreed. Dude was clearly not well enough conditioned, and still coming into his own during the playoffs. He makes up for his poor defensive technique with his tenacity and intelligence. Awesome rim runner on PnR sets with any half decent guard. Great offensive rebounder as well.

All that said, he's certainly not getting the $90-100 mil deal, he would've hoped for, after the way Clips folded this year. He was terrible, but so were the rest of them including Doc and Kawhi. Harrell's delayed return to the bubble was also part of that overall Clippers arrogant demeanor IMO.

If he has a good agent, he might sign a 1+1(10-12 mil/year deal) for a better post Covid deal, when this year's forgotten. Be dumb to get into a stalemate with the Clips or sign for more money with some random team at this point - definitely start drawing comparisons with Fareid if he does that.

[Optms]

Not sure who overrates him. He is rated properly from what I can tell. Kawhi on the other hand, different story.

[Zeno]

Right at this moment he's underrated. He's a situational big. The situation should never be against Jokic.

[Sgt Major]

Boban and Jokic destroyed him, but it's not his fault that Doc put him on the floor against those guys.

[Soulyss]

Harrell is a better version of Kenneth Faried... gets a lot of his value off of scrappy, grinding, dirty-work... Plays better defense than Faried.

Honestly he's on my full-mle list for Portland, but I think he'll get more than that from someone.

I was going into this thread thinking exactly what you put. I honestly am not sure how he is a thing in todays NBA. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense considering Faried is completely out of the league.

He's a much better two-way player than Faried ever was, which is the difference... He's got enough lateral quickness to be a good help defender which helps his value a lot. He could use some improved defensive coaching to help technique and rotations... fit will be important for Faried.

I suspect that the Clippers will pay him, but they won't bid against themselves to do it. 4/50? Seems like they would keep him at that price. I don't see any of the teams with Cap wanting his services... I suspect he'll have a couple of full MLE offers if he wants to exit the Clippers.

[Harry Garris]

No. He's actually underrated by the sheer amount of people that only just watched him closely for the first time in that awful playoff

The problem is that he excels as an energy big off of the bench but hes going to be paid starting center money and put in a position that's way over his head and look terrible in that role.

[dirkforpres]

Overrated and less than no jumper. Someone earlier said this and it’s completely accurate: modern Kenneth Faried.

Luckily the Mavs have no money to spend so im not worried about someone else overpaying for him

[Alonzo_Morning]

Pre playoffs no. I do think he is now. Terrible defensively

[AmusingFiddle]

Considering the recent Ballmer and Ty Lue comments, it sounds like he will be back on the squad. Do the Clippers have his full bird rights so they can go over cap to sign him?

Lou OTH is as good as gone.

[RaptorPride]

Montrezl is still young and hasnt hit his ceiling, now Lemon Pepper Lou on the other hand is vastly overrated and a defensive liability...his only net positive is he got underpaid just to stay on the team, its a reason he's played on so many teams & he obviously loves strip clubs so he probably should of went after the bigger contract & not the lemon pepper lou copyright, he's a doofus

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Yea there was a reason Masai never offered Lou a contract extension after him winning 6th man of the year for the first time in his career with us. Lou even complained online that he never got an offer.

https://torontosun.com/2015/07/06/lou-williams-disappointed-raptors-didnt-want-him-back

“kind of a little disappointed I wasn’t allowed to stay in Toronto, but things happen, you move forward.”

https://www.thescore.com/nba/news/791503

Just to speak candidly, it caught me by surprise that we didn’t get something done. I made it clear that I wanted to be there and I thought, with the type of year that I had, the feeling would be mutual. Unfortunately, it wasn’t. I think they wanted to go in a different direction and become more of a defensive-minded team

[OkcSinceSGA]

Based on what? Most NBA fans either don't know who he is, or think he's an average role player. So in that sense he's very underrated. Now in terms of those that think very highly of him? Maybe a bit. I think we do have some recency bias happening due to his failure in the bubble. He was awesome the last 2 years and metrics basically put him at borderline all star level. Sadly his conditioning+mind after 5 months of not playing really screwed himself and the team over at the worst time.

He went from most people thinking he will get around 20 mill a year to lucky if he gets 10 now. He went from heart and soul of team that would be re-signed to likely the Clippers happily let him walk. The playoffs are more important than the regular season obviously.

[SF_Warriors]

I think he's the type of player that helps a team, but in the playoffs, his weaknesses are amplified due to his combination of being undersized for a big and his lack of diverse offensive skillset. You put him at the five and he will be at a disadvantage against your goberts, jokics, ADs..you try him at PF, he hurts spacing and cannot hang with smallball PFs.

I think the clips could have made it work by playing him next to jamychal green more often, so that way his lack of spacing and size would be minimized and he can do what he does to help the team. I think playing next to a porzingas for example could achieve that same type of affect. Overall, good player but he needs to have a suitable frontcourt mate to play next to (versatile and can space the floor) in order to maximize his strengths, especially in the playoffs.

[OkcSinceSGA]

I think he's the type of player that helps a team, but in the playoffs, his weaknesses are amplified due to his combination of being undersized for a big and his lack of diverse offensive skillset. You put him at the five and he will be at a disadvantage against your goberts, jokics, ADs..you try him at PF, he hurts spacing and cannot hang with smallball PFs.

I think the clips could have made it work by playing him next to jamychal green more often, so that way his lack of spacing and size would be minimized and he can do what he does to help the team. I think playing next to a porzingas for example could achieve that same type of affect. Overall, good player but he needs to have a suitable frontcourt mate to play next to (versatile and can space the floor) in order to maximize his strengths, especially in the playoffs.

Spot on. I think this is very fair and accurate. Last summer he worked on his shot, but sadly it didn't translate and he barely took midrange shots. He's a guy like Elton Brand where I think a money midrange jumper would COMPLETELY transform his game. He'd probably go from a bench guy to an all star. He's got such a quick first step for a big that if they respected his jumper he'd get nonstop drives for dunks.

[lonzo_pelota]

Even vaguely recall some was saying Montrezl added a 3pt shot to his arsenal based on his drew league play, that was another inaccurate assessment . His stock/play plateaued plain and simple. Maybe he can bounce back once he gets his new pay raise. He loves that custom jewelry and dressing up for games, he needs that big contract.